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DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav

(408 posts)
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 09:49 PM Feb 2013

More than 800,000 views in 48 hours - New coating repels almost any liquid

Really neat stuff!

Ultra-Ever Dry is a superhydrophobic (water) and oleophobic (hydrocarbons) coating that will completely repel almost any liquid. Ultra-Ever Dry uses proprietary nanotechnology to coat an object and create a barrier of air on its surface. This barrier repels water, oil and other liquids unlike any coating seen before. The other breakthrough associated with Ultra-Ever Dry is the superior coating adherence and abrasion resistance allowing it to be used in all kinds of applications where durability is required.


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More than 800,000 views in 48 hours - New coating repels almost any liquid (Original Post) DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 OP
How will the gang bangers be able Politicalboi Feb 2013 #1
Okay, I'm impressed! NV Whino Feb 2013 #2
to do away with coffee stains BainsBane Feb 2013 #54
People are going to want to dunk their kids in it Warpy Feb 2013 #3
I keep thinking about this movie when I read about this stuff htuttle Feb 2013 #4
I loved that movie. And yes definitely a reminder how long before it disappears? hollysmom Feb 2013 #50
Impressive. silverweb Feb 2013 #5
The toilet and my car Sienna86 Feb 2013 #6
My tennis shoes, El Shaman Feb 2013 #43
toilet is an awesome idea BainsBane Feb 2013 #55
This is great. Imagine coating the exteriors of houses with this! pacalo Feb 2013 #7
Toilet seats in bars alfredo Feb 2013 #35
Somebody come and do my windows with this stuff! nt Nay Feb 2013 #75
I want to coat my cars and my house with this stuff. iemitsu Feb 2013 #8
It would make for a great prank Mnpaul Feb 2013 #18
:) iemitsu Feb 2013 #76
You might get beat up though if you do that madokie Feb 2013 #85
Before everyone digs for their credit cards... brooklynite Feb 2013 #9
Teflon. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #26
Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I see SO much of this stuff... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #10
Agree! Bjornsdotter Feb 2013 #13
If you read their FAQ, you'll see it's really easy to overapply... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #16
Right? Like how does it interact with soil... drokhole Feb 2013 #25
Having gone through testing with the EPA Bjornsdotter Feb 2013 #29
Reading the Pandora's Box article downthread.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #33
It's the 21st century America, baby! Who needs the EPA when we've got the gtar100 Feb 2013 #80
How about Scotchguard? FSogol Feb 2013 #14
Hadn't heard until I read your post. Here's the Wiki.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #21
Yup, organic polluntants are bad news. I'm not an anti-tech guy, but I FSogol Feb 2013 #22
I think you might enjoy this article... drokhole Feb 2013 #28
Thanks. Read the article and will listen to the podcast. Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #34
My pleasure! I'm glad you brought up some of the areas of concern. drokhole Feb 2013 #45
Well, I think we now know why SETI can't find ET.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #58
Ha! drokhole Feb 2013 #61
Familiar with the Drake Equation??? Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #65
Familiar, but not entirely clear... drokhole Feb 2013 #70
Great educator. Did a good series for PBS in the 80s. Died at 89 a few yrs ago. Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #73
Yikes! Bjornsdotter Feb 2013 #39
Yikes indeed.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #44
I'd say... drokhole Feb 2013 #48
Sulfur alfredo Feb 2013 #36
yeah, that's what I was thinking 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #82
Republicans are going to be buying this stuff in bulk! Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2013 #11
I want this sprayed inside and out on my car Thor_MN Feb 2013 #12
Especially on the windows. I might need to look into this stuff. Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #17
No kidding, the stuff they use on the roads now turns wind sheild opaque in about 50 feet Thor_MN Feb 2013 #24
Yes, but what about a non-nutritive cereal varnish? RZM Feb 2013 #15
Just don't put it on your sled. tammywammy Feb 2013 #37
I wonder how long swimmers have been incorporating this technology in their suits... FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #19
nanoparticle testing? BainsBane Feb 2013 #56
I fear you may be right... FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #77
Hopefully this stuff is harmless to humans... jmowreader Feb 2013 #81
I didn't think of that, but now that you mentioned it... FleetwoodMac Feb 2013 #84
First thought - Shower stall.... Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #20
Just keep it off the floor. Buzz Clik Feb 2013 #23
My first thought too! haikugal Feb 2013 #31
Anti-corrosive coating? Maybe for waterproofing lumber too? TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #27
Similarly, I was thinking it would be a perfect anti-fouling for boats and ships. rwsanders Feb 2013 #53
does that mean i never have to clean it? shireen Feb 2013 #30
you're supposed to use googles, gloves and protective gear when you apply the stuff dlwickham Feb 2013 #32
Makes sense - we're 95% water. Sounds more like a poison to humans. JimDandy Feb 2013 #60
Man, will this keep dogshit off my shoes? Tab Feb 2013 #38
that was one of my first thoughts too d_r Feb 2013 #78
MIT has something in the same ball park. alfredo Feb 2013 #40
wow!! shanti Feb 2013 #41
Wow!! El Shaman Feb 2013 #42
Seriously. If you think this is my product, you're giving me FAR to much credit. DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav Feb 2013 #49
Coat an Attack Sub greytdemocrat Feb 2013 #46
Too bad the military didn't snap this up and make it a national defense secret.... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #47
I want that! OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #51
I wanna dip..... TroubleMan Feb 2013 #52
Boy, it sure would be great to never stain the deck again! blue neen Feb 2013 #57
Aww...just spray it everywhere and worry later..... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #59
"Spray them all and let Nature sort it out." drokhole Feb 2013 #64
Graffiti abatement.... dobleremolque Feb 2013 #62
Rubbermaid Clean & Dry Plunger with unique NeverWet coating NBachers Feb 2013 #63
I am THRILLED and just plain happy Mira Feb 2013 #66
Their website, lots of answers there. Demo_Chris Feb 2013 #67
What happens when you ingest some of those nanoparticles into your lungs? applegrove Feb 2013 #68
Apparently, nanoparticles pass easily through the blood-brain barrier and cause brain swelling. Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #69
... Ian David Feb 2013 #71
I'm going to coat my penis with this so I don't need lotion to masturbate with anymore! n/t Ian David Feb 2013 #72
I said it causes BRAIN swelling..... Junkdrawer Feb 2013 #74
if it is safe d_r Feb 2013 #79
After the great shovel out. boston bean Feb 2013 #83
FFS the basecoat is 66% XYLENE Agony Feb 2013 #86
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
1. How will the gang bangers be able
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 09:58 PM
Feb 2013

To mark their territory if buildings and train cars and freeway signs had this treatment. This product will cut down water usage too for clean up.

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
54. to do away with coffee stains
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:05 AM
Feb 2013

down my front. That was the first thing I thought of, but then how would you wash the clothing?

silverweb

(16,410 posts)
5. Impressive.
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:13 PM
Feb 2013

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Because it's "proprietary" and they don't reveal what the nanosubstance is, I'm wondering if it's the first commercially patented form of graphene oxide, which has similar hydrophobic abilities. I've been following the studies of graphene since I first became aware of it -- a near-miraculous material with some really exotic properties.

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
55. toilet is an awesome idea
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:06 AM
Feb 2013

and I thought of the car. I'm wondering if it can damage surfaces though.

pacalo

(24,857 posts)
7. This is great. Imagine coating the exteriors of houses with this!
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:15 PM
Feb 2013

Walkways, driveways & vehicles, too!

iemitsu

(3,891 posts)
8. I want to coat my cars and my house with this stuff.
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:15 PM
Feb 2013

And maybe even my boat.
The ultimate teflon.
I wonder what the longevity of this product is? It seems pretty wonderful.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
18. It would make for a great prank
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:49 PM
Feb 2013

Coat a house painters brush when they aren't looking.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
85. You might get beat up though if you do that
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 07:47 AM
Feb 2013

Painters I know are very touchy about their brushes. They don't even want someone else to touch one of theirs

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
9. Before everyone digs for their credit cards...
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:18 PM
Feb 2013

...how is this video any different that any "As seen on TV" informercial about miracle stain removers?

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
10. Not to rain on anyone's parade, but I see SO much of this stuff...
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:26 PM
Feb 2013

potentially used so quickly that MAJOR environmental impact studies should be done BEFORE we find the stuff is out there big time and then we find the problems. Teflon???

Aside from that....

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
13. Agree!
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:43 PM
Feb 2013

I looked for their letter from the EPA and there is nothing. I'd like to know how they managed to put their product on the market without a letter from the EPA giving it clearance.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
16. If you read their FAQ, you'll see it's really easy to overapply...
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:49 PM
Feb 2013

with the excess forming a white powder that will wash into waterways......

We'll be eating the stuff. Does it bioaccumulate? Does it ever biodegrade?

I have a million questions and no answers.

drokhole

(1,230 posts)
25. Right? Like how does it interact with soil...
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:06 PM
Feb 2013

...in case of a spill, wearing off into, whatever. Probably don't want something "hydrophobic" coating/absorbing into soil.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
29. Having gone through testing with the EPA
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:11 PM
Feb 2013

...I can tell you that I would love to know how they got around it.

I right there with you, I'd love to know how this could impact the environment.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
33. Reading the Pandora's Box article downthread....
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:20 PM
Feb 2013

It may be that common "approved" materials have completely different properties as nanoparticles - including things like how they pass through the blood-brain barrier.

Huge regulatory hole.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
80. It's the 21st century America, baby! Who needs the EPA when we've got the
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 07:03 AM
Feb 2013

invisible hand of the marketplace to guide us. If there's any problem with it, a few people will get sick, maybe become debilitated for life or possibly die. Or maybe it'll kill off some biosphere that didn't really look all that important (at first). But hey, the rest of us will just stop buying it, the company will go out of business, and problem is solved. No need for big gov't liberal EPA to upset the apple cart too soon before a healthy profit can be made for the original investors before the business can be dumped onto somebody else who can be the scapegoat for when it all falls apart..

Ain't American-style capitalism grand?

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
14. How about Scotchguard?
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:46 PM
Feb 2013

That's completely gone except the bits floating around in people's bloodstreams.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
21. Hadn't heard until I read your post. Here's the Wiki....
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:58 PM
Feb 2013
Scotchgard is a 3M brand of products, a stain repellent and durable water repellent applied to fabric, furniture, and carpets to protect them from later stains.

The original formula for Scotchgard was discovered accidentally in 1952 by 3M chemists Patsy Sherman and Samuel Smith. Sales began in 1956, and in 1973 the two chemists received a patent for the formula.[1][2]

In 1999, the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) began an investigation into the class of chemicals used in Scotchgard, after receiving information on the global distribution and toxicity of perfluorooctane sulfonate (PFOS),[3] the "key ingredient"[4] of Scotchgard. The compound perfluorooctanesulfonamide (PFOSA), a PFOS precursor, was an ingredient[5] and also has been described as the "key ingredient"[6] of Scotchgard. Under USEPA pressure,[7] in May 2000 3M announced the phaseout of the production of PFOA, PFOS, and PFOS-related products.[8]

3M reformulated Scotchgard and since June 2003 has replaced PFOS with perfluorobutanesulfonic acid (PFBS).[9] PFBS has a much shorter half-life in people than PFOS (a little over one month vs. 5.4 years).[4] In May 2009 PFOS was determined to be a persistent organic pollutant (POP) by the Stockholm Convention.[10]

....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotchgard

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
22. Yup, organic polluntants are bad news. I'm not an anti-tech guy, but I
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:01 PM
Feb 2013

wish someone was regulating nanotechnology.

drokhole

(1,230 posts)
28. I think you might enjoy this article...
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:10 PM
Feb 2013
Pandora’s Boxes: Inside nanotechnology’s little universe of big unknowns
http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/articles/article/7278

With a pretty interesting podcast/discussion on it here:

http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/audio-video/item/nanotechnologys_little_universe_of_big_unknowns/

I think what it comes down to is that there are a lot of unanswered (and unasked) questions.

drokhole

(1,230 posts)
45. My pleasure! I'm glad you brought up some of the areas of concern.
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:37 PM
Feb 2013

The podcast has some professionals who are kind of on the pro-nanotech bandwagon, and not enough questions are fielded, but it's still a pretty decent listen. The first part of it has the author reading a good deal of her essay. Also, that site usually has great input in the article's comments section.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
58. Well, I think we now know why SETI can't find ET....
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:14 AM
Feb 2013

Sentient beings tend to destroy themselves by embracing advanced technologies they only partially understand.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
65. Familiar with the Drake Equation???
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:51 AM
Feb 2013

The odds of contacting another civilization looks good - unless the time between "capable of transmitting radio waves" and "self-extinction" is small.

Attended a lecture by Philip Morrison from MIT in the 70s. The big worry then was The Bomb.

drokhole

(1,230 posts)
70. Familiar, but not entirely clear...
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:27 AM
Feb 2013

Since scientists have kept upping the number of presumed planets, does that mean the odds are increasing?

Anyway, reminds me of something Terence McKenna said in regards to the way we've been burning through resources so rapidly:

"The problem is, energy can be used to destroy as well as build. So as the human enterprise has moved toward greater and greater power, and ability to manipulate the environment, the stakes in the cosmic game have risen. And now what we have is approximately $100 billion sitting in the center of the crap table, and one roll of the dice more and we’re going to either win it or lose everything. Because intelligence, if we fail, will never again reach the kind of levels on this planet that we have reached.

Why? Because we have extracted all the available metals near the surface of the Earth; an evolving species following after us will find the Earth strangely depleted of usable materials, down to the 1500-foot level; and so intelligence coming beyond us will find it just does not have the resources to make the leap to technical civilization. So it’s beginning to look like a one-shot deal."


I think the "one-shot deal" he was talking about was an intelligent, technological species leaving the planet and exploring the cosmos (and/or surviving, for that matter).

That lecture must have been something. I wasn't familiar with Philip Morrison, but it seemed like he was in the thick of it.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
73. Great educator. Did a good series for PBS in the 80s. Died at 89 a few yrs ago.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:45 AM
Feb 2013

The Drake equation is a long series of terms starting with the number of stars in the universe times the average planets per star times the average percent of planets with liquid water and on and on.

But the two terms that really whittles the number down are the average planets with life that develop technological civilizations and then the final term is the average duration of such civilizations. With a 15 billion yr. old universe, if you're only around a hundred years or so, the odds of two civilizations detecting each other becomes vanishingly small.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
39. Yikes!
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:27 PM
Feb 2013
"Because nanoparticles are so small, they can slip past the body’s various barriers: skin, the blood-brain barrier, the lining of the gut and airways. Once inside, these tiny particles can bind to many things. They seem to build up over time, especially in the brain. Some cause inflammation and cell damage. Preliminary research shows this can harm the organs of lab animals, though the results of some of these studies are a matter of debate."




This paragraph is not inspiring confidence in me.

Thanks for the links!

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
44. Yikes indeed....
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:36 PM
Feb 2013

If the responses to this thread are typical, many, many will grab the stuff for the sexy uses and we'll all be part of yet-another Grand Experiment.

drokhole

(1,230 posts)
48. I'd say...
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:47 PM
Feb 2013

Last edited Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:25 AM - Edit history (1)

...another thing I was wondering about, which they didn't address in the article or the podcast discussion, is how they interact with our microbiome - which we are only now beginning to grasp the importance of. Like how some of our habits upset key bacterial balance (and here), and just how effective tending to/restoring that bacterial balance/diversity can be in treating illnesses.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
82. yeah, that's what I was thinking
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 07:36 AM
Feb 2013

It's cool as hell and can be used for hundreds of things but what happens when it goes into the ground water and stuff like that?

A little bit is one thing but everyone will be using this stuff. Does it stay put? Does it eventually wash off?

Cool as hell, but I feel like I would like more answers.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
11. Republicans are going to be buying this stuff in bulk!
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:37 PM
Feb 2013

They've been looking for a way to keep their verbal diarrhea from sticking to them for decades. It's their dream come true.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
24. No kidding, the stuff they use on the roads now turns wind sheild opaque in about 50 feet
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:06 PM
Feb 2013

I think I'm well into my third gallon of washer fluid this winter.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
15. Yes, but what about a non-nutritive cereal varnish?
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:46 PM
Feb 2013

That repels the milk? That's what we really need.

FleetwoodMac

(351 posts)
19. I wonder how long swimmers have been incorporating this technology in their suits...
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 10:52 PM
Feb 2013

FINA banned the full body polyurethane and neoprene suits after the 25 world records made in the 2008 Olympics, resulting in a significantly lower performance in the last five years.

jmowreader

(53,194 posts)
81. Hopefully this stuff is harmless to humans...
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 07:19 AM
Feb 2013

...because you just know the competitive swimmers are going to mix it with a cream base and apply it to their bodies.

FleetwoodMac

(351 posts)
84. I didn't think of that, but now that you mentioned it...
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:14 AM
Feb 2013

I can't help but wonder if it has already happened.

A cursory glance at the FAQs leaves me with the impression that the product is less than safe for direct human application.

22. Are there environmental or safety concerns during application or after the coating has dried?
Once dry, there are no known environmental concerns. The coating has been found to be safe for use in nonfood
contact areas of food processing plants. The coating meets FDA and USDA regulations for those types of applications.
When applying the coating, we recommend using gloves and avoiding skin contact as it will dry out the skin.
Goggles for eye protection and respirators with P100 pre-fi lters and organic vapor cartridges are also recommended
during the spray-on application.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
27. Anti-corrosive coating? Maybe for waterproofing lumber too?
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:09 PM
Feb 2013

Wonder if it can be submerged, or flexes when the underlying materials contract and expand?

shireen

(8,340 posts)
30. does that mean i never have to clean it?
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:15 PM
Feb 2013

No more dishes.
No more carpet stains.
No more windows to clean.

No more laundry?

Really? I'm sold!


dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
32. you're supposed to use googles, gloves and protective gear when you apply the stuff
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:17 PM
Feb 2013

I'll take the risk of my stuff getting wet

http://io9.com/ultra-ever-dry/

shanti

(21,799 posts)
41. wow!!
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:31 PM
Feb 2013

Last edited Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:38 AM - Edit history (1)

my mind is racing with ideas for applications of this stuff! the roofing and automotive industries come to mind immediately.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
47. Too bad the military didn't snap this up and make it a national defense secret....
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:46 PM
Feb 2013

We might have bought time to properly study the stuff before, thanks the the almost assured mass use starting NOW, we find the stuff omnipresent in the environment.

TroubleMan

(4,868 posts)
52. I wanna dip.....
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:03 AM
Feb 2013

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blue neen

(12,465 posts)
57. Boy, it sure would be great to never stain the deck again!
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:12 AM
Feb 2013

One has to wonder, though, about any possible harmful effects.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
59. Aww...just spray it everywhere and worry later.....
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:22 AM
Feb 2013

Look Martha it repels water! Say, why is little Johnny convulsing over there?

Check upthread.

Mira

(22,685 posts)
66. I am THRILLED and just plain happy
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:53 AM
Feb 2013

to have lived long enough to see this.
I could see oodles of apps for this in my little life.
Amazing and needed.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
67. Their website, lots of answers there.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 12:53 AM
Feb 2013
http://www.spillcontainment.com/everdry

I want it! This is gonna be huge.

You know, we talk about water conservation, something like this could potentially make a significant difference.

applegrove

(132,216 posts)
68. What happens when you ingest some of those nanoparticles into your lungs?
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:06 AM
Feb 2013

That is what scares me.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
69. Apparently, nanoparticles pass easily through the blood-brain barrier and cause brain swelling.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:13 AM
Feb 2013

But they really repel water! So who cares?

d_r

(6,908 posts)
79. if it is safe
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 06:55 AM
Feb 2013

I was thinking of a tent - I wonder what it would do to the morning dew build up.

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