Here's the surfer that the cops mistook for Dorner before shooting at him.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-torrance-shooting-20130210,0,3955268.story

"David Perdue was on his way to sneak in some surfing before work Thursday morning when police flagged him down. They asked who he was and where he was headed, then sent him on his way.

"Seconds later, Perdue's attorney said, a Torrance police cruiser slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire; none of the bullets struck Perdue.

"His pickup, police later explained, matched the description of the one belonging to Christopher Jordan Dorner — the ex-cop who has evaded authorities after allegedly killing three and wounding two more. But the pickups were different makes and colors. And Perdue looks nothing like Dorner: He's several inches shorter and about a hundred pounds lighter. And Perdue is white; Dorner is black."

[CountAllVotes]

1. Good gawd!

When will the stupidity ever end?

I hope this man sues the sh*t out of the police dept. for targeting him and trying to off him!



& recommend.

[JohnnyBoots]

2. LAPD is

going to go broke from lawsuits if this behavior keeps up. The lawmen are acting very chaotic with regard to Dorner. They must be scared.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

20. Torrance PD is not the same as LAPD.

Not as competent either. They will be paying for this one.

[MADem]

29. Well, the property owners in that municipality will...nt

[HooptieWagon]

32. Most cities carry liability insurance for such cases.

Of course, taxpayers are covering the cost of the premiums.

[NICO9000]

69. I grew up in Torrance

The T-Town cops (back in the 70s, at least) were racist ass motherfuckers and probably still are. Torrance has never been friendly to blacks in any way, shape or form. A black co-worker told me one time that Torrance is known as "little Alabama."

On the bright side, it's going to be nice to see this guy and the Latina newspaper delivery ladies get rich off this.

[barbtries]

77. i grew up in torrance too.

90505.
i sometimes wonder how i got out of that place still the bleeding heart liberal i've been since day one. a terribly racist city.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

99. The police in general are now more dangerous than Dorner.

Luckily they can't shoot for shit.

[caseymoz]

112. Dorner certainly succeeded in getting them to shame themselves.

I'm beginning to think the LA Police and all near suburbs should subcontract this one.

[sasha031]

52. agree 1000%

[Mojorabbit]

115. It is really scary to see how they are shooting first and checking who

they are shooting at later.

[dotymed]

125. IMO, Dorner

must have a lot of info on the LAPD that they do not want disclosed. The "shoot on sight" order raises a lot of questions to me.
Are they afraid to have a public trial?
Unfortunately, "our" media can not be depended on to give unbiased information.
Yes, from what I have been informed, through the media, Dorner is unbalanced. I do believe that even unbalanced people should have a trial before a sentence is passed.

[Randomthought]

133. yes

I've been thinking the same thing. Doner knows something that the LAPD doesn't want made public.

[lumberjack_jeff]

3. Apparently the description they have of the subject is "a biped in a pickup" nt

[CrispyQ]

13. ~lol.

You get a heart for that!

[lumberjack_jeff]

22. Thanks! nt

[Jazzgirl]

26. Lol, I gave you a heart for that too!

[tblue37]

40. But the Latino ladies were driving a bright blue van, NOT a

pickup at all, much less a gray one.

[kestrel91316]

68. They were in a bright blue PICKUP. It looks like a van from directly behind, but it isn't.

[AtheistCrusader]

135. They were driving a Dodge pickup.

It's definitely a pickup, not a Durango.

This guy was driving a Honda ridgeline, which can only baaaaarely be described as a pickup.

[Champion Jack]

101. Lulz!

[caseymoz]

110. Then they'd be shooting at clams.

A bivalve in a pickup truck . . . or something like that.

[A HERETIC I AM]

123. HOLY SHIT!

Too funny.

[Light House]

4. How in the blue blazes do you mistake this man for Dorner?

Sheesh.

[freshwest]

78. His hair was short? Still don't know why the truck is a red flag anymore, though.

It was found in the mountains and there's no reason to think he's driving one.

If this keeps up I wonder what the plan is. Privatize the PD and turn it over to a paramilitary group?

As if that would be better...

[Democracyinkind]

131. ....

"Privatize the PD and admit they are a paramilitary group"...

Hyperbole, but it came to mind while reading your thoughtful reply.

[Xipe Totec]

5. Pucker Power is the Power of the Hour

And these cops are puckered up so thigh, that anything that moves matches the description of Dorner.

Right now, the public is more at risk from the LAPD than they are of Dorner.

Because Dorner is targeting Cops...

Cops are targeting anything that moves...

[tblue37]

41. It isn't even the cops' fear so much as their desire to make sure Dorner is killed

rather than captured and tried--and perhaps the individual cops' desire to be the "hero" that brings Dorner down.

[Xipe Totec]

53. There is truth in what you say nt

[truebluegreen]

105. +100

Nothing like a guilty conscience, eh? It's a real motivator.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

6. He's such a lucky person not to have been shot.

It's still horrible he had to go through what he did. It just amazes me how they managed to miss shooting him like they did the two Asian ladies.

[steve2470]

36. latina ladies, from what I remember nt

[Lone_Star_Dem]

38. Oh, I must have gotten confused someplace that day.

Thanks!

[steve2470]

39. np :) nt

[tblue37]

42. The original reports did say Asian ladies, but then it was eventually

corrected to say Latino.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

45. That makes sense.

I was pretty sure a DUer had engaged me in a conversation about how the LA Asian community would respond. I was wondering if I'd dreamed all that. Which made me think I was spending way too much time here if I'm dreaming about the place!

[freshwest]

79. Looks like he's going to have whiplash from this, too. Recklessness by the PD.

[gtar100]

7. Did I read that right that he was already stopped and questioned *before* a police car slams into

Perdue's vehicle and they start shooting at him? If that's true, these policemen - in their fear - are becoming more dangerous than Dorner himself. What a bunch of jerks.

[Downwinder]

14. Take the guns away from thugs.

[gtar100]

51. In this case, police thugs.

We really need more intelligent police personnel and fewer of these idiots who joined the force for the thrill. Would a police union police itself? Can we get better candidates for police chiefs and sheriffs? How about better civilian oversight? It seems like all these ideas have been and are being tried. What's the answer? It seems like we're just fighting human nature.

[arely staircase]

84. yeah, one of them had already stopped him, questioned him and sent him

on his way. then they (same? another? don't know) rammed him and tried to shoot him a whole bunch of times but missed. guy is lucky to be alive. what lunatics.

[dperdue310]

141. shooting at Perdue

Yes I encountered 2 officers at the end of the street flagler and I spoke with them outside my truck, explaining that I was going surfing. They told me to do a u-turn because of danger in that neighborhood. I did a u-turn and seconds later saw another police car. I yield to the right and and got rammed by that vehicle while driving about 5mph and then was shot at. Scary and painful

[arely staircase]

142. if it is really you, get well soon

what a horrible thing.

[dperdue310]

144. thank you

It's really me and this all occurred 2 blocks from my house. They say most accidents happen close to home and I take it as being true (now). I was driving a Black Honda Ridgeline and don't understand why they targeted me? Thank you very much

[dperdue310]

146. heart

Thank you to whom it was that sent me a heart Greatly appreciated.....

[dperdue310]

145. arely staircase

Would never impersonate another person, that is just wrong and (SOME) people should be punished for that.

[In_The_Wind]

147. welcome to DU, dperdue310

I hope you'll be up to surfing again soon.

edit to add ~~> http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2350132

[dperdue310]

148. surfing again

Me too, it's my passion but looks like it will be a while

[In_The_Wind]

149. Then, I will hold you in my heart until you are well again, dperdue310.

There is still time.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018304017

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018296111

namaste

[dperdue310]

150. in the wind

Thank you, God bless you and I am just happy to be sitting here next to my 2 boys and wife. Let alone the rest of my family and friends. Somebody was watching over me that day.

[In_The_Wind]

152. The one's who love were watching that day, as always.

[rhett o rick]

8. Didnt they mistaken the vehicle the two ladies were driving also. It wasnt a pickup was it? nm

[ManiacJoe]

24. A pickup, yes, but wrong make and model.

Assuming we are talking about the newspaper deliverers.

[littlewolf]

9. the taxpayers in LA are going to be footing some legal bills.

and the police dept. is going to be writing some big a$$ checks.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

10. Well, at least they got the gender right this time.

[tblue37]

43. And the NUMBER of people! nt

[caseymoz]

111. Cross-eyed racists.

Explains how they always miss even though they riddle whole street with bullets.

[wandy]

11. It has to be tough and a more than a little frightening, knowing that you are a target........

But come on LAPD You're better than this.......

[EOTE]

108. No, unfortunately they're not better than this.

This is pretty much par for the course for the LAPD.

[indie9197]

12. WTF!? The LA cops are incompetent and dangerous

Why is this just now making news since it happened Thursday morning? The Police Chief offered to pay his medical bills and get him a rental car? HAHA Another huge lawsuit on the way!

[AnotherMcIntosh]

16. Because the cops issued a press release say that Purdue was unhurt (apparently meaning "not shot"),

they must not expect the medical bills to be signifigant.

Since the cops have offered to get him a rental "car," it might be wise of him to accept that instead of a replacement pick-up truck.

[kestrel91316]

70. A RENTAL CAR??? What the HOLY FUCKETY FUCK!!!??!!!?

They owe him a brand new pickup, medical and THERAPY costs, and a sizeable chunk of change for scaring him within an inch of his life.

[IDemo]

15. Bill Moyers had the auther of "Kill Anything That Moves" on last night

Sounds like LAPD has the thought pattern down.

[magellan]

17. Torrance PD again

iirc it was the same dept involved in shooting the mother and daughter on their newspaper delivery rounds.

[winstars]

91. It was LAPD who shot the two women, from the Hollywood Division... I live 5 minutes from

where this happened in Redondo Beach. Funny thing is both incidents seem to have happened in Redondo Beach, not Torrance as reported. Maybe my map is wrong...


Correction:

Google Maps is your friend. The other side of the street is Redondo Beach, the shootings did happen in Torrance so hopefully my taxes won't have to help pay the large payout these victims will undoubtedly get. Sorry Torrance...

[malaise]

18. Look when police start shooting at two tiny Hispanic women

all men in blue trucks are fair game.

These fuggers are vengeance seeking incompetents.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

27. On the upside, it appears that the cops are making progress in reducing racism and sexism.

[malaise]

30. LOL

Too angry to care -anyone in their way is fair game

[alcibiades_mystery]

61. Truly colorblind! ROFL

I hate to laugh at this awful situation, but you did find the comical upside.

[The Straight Story]

19. He's a surfer? Where's the long hair and pot stash?

[Mr.Bill]

25. He's a surfer, not a snowboarder.

[tavalon]

75. Um, that was the surfer stereotype long before it was the snowboarder stereotype.

[IDemo]

86. Not to mention, hatchet.

[libodem]

21. Out. Of. Control.

Crazy.

[glinda]

23. Cops need to be drug tested.

[Rider113]

107. An IQ exam wouldn't be out of line either....

[glinda]

117. +1

[Doctor_J]

28. I don't think an LAPD would wear that watch either

Wait...his vehicle matched the description, so they opened fire??? Wow.

[Occulus]

132. And the people on the thread about using drones to look for the guy

wonder why some here are a little concerned about them ever being armed...

[MadHound]

31. They should call off the manhunt before the cops kill somebody,

Seriously, if this keeps up the cops are going to wind up killing more people than Dorner.

[ybbor]

33. WTF

I have no confidence in the police what so ever. Shoot first, ask questions never. Effing ridiculous!

[heaven05]

34. only

terrified little cowards get out of control like this. Saw similar in vietnam. This is truly pitiful and darkly laughable. Bunch of racist, scared to death.

[firenewt]

82. Spot on............

Spray and pray.

[steve2470]

35. poor guy, thank god he wasn't killed

Can we say huge L A W S U I T ? I can. I hope he wins.

[oldandhappy]

37. angry cops are dangerous

I support cops. This situation has everyone on the search side sort of out of control. I understand. They are terrified and angry. Difficult mix.

[Ashgrey77]

48. What you just said does not make any of this ok.

Police should be held to a higher standard for personal conduct and self control. We give them immense power to enforce laws, power they CANNOT abuse. When cops become "angry" and "out of control" because they are terrified, they need to find a new line of work. When a entire police dept. is acting out of control and shooting civilians because they are afraid for "their" safety OVER ours, we are in some serious trouble. And right now it looks like we are in some serious trouble. The LAPD and Torrance departments have shown their true colors, they will protect themselves and their families before the people they are PAID and entrusted by the public to protect. The police don't work for themselves, they work for you, the citizen that pays their salaries. They need to be reminded of this and reminded regularly.

[ktower]

118. Well said

and agree fully. The ones that have fired upon innocent civilians should be prosecuted the sane as anyone else. I would even think it to be premeditated, just went after the wrong target. Attempted Murder comes to mind in both cases.

[kestrel91316]

71. If they can't take the heat, they need to stay out of the kitchen. Any cop who loses all common

sense under a little pressure like this needs to find another job. The community is not safe from clowns like this.

[RedCappedBandit]

85. Yeah.

If you or I were angry and terrified, we wouldn't be permitted to go out shooting at random people. Why being a cop makes this behavior excusable is totally beyond me.

[sibelian]

98. Yeah, angry cops SHOULDN'T BE DANGEROUS.

M'kay? If their competence to practice is compromised by their emotional disturbances they are no use to anyone.

If you think it's okay for them to be no different from "some guy with a gun who likes to do what he thinks is right" then society has no need for cops. There are plenty of people out there with guns who like to do what they want.

[shcrane71]

44. Will the police who attempted to murder this civilian at least lose their jobs?

Doubt it. Merica... fuck yeah.

[xxqqqzme]

46. A color blind police force?

"...But the pickups were different makes and colors. And Perdue looks nothing like Dorner: He's several inches shorter and about a hundred pounds lighter. And Perdue is white..."

2nd time they missed the color (and make) of the truck.

[Buzz Clik]

47. During this episode, they have fired on two occasions at innocent people. Their aim ...

... thank God! -- has been horrible. About 100 rounds fired, and only two bullets have hit their targets. Dorner will be shooting back.

If I were an LA cop, I'd call in sick.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

49. Thankfully, these cops and others like them are not in charge of drones.

[kestrel91316]

73. Actually, they are. But they are reconnaissance drones and unarmed.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

127. If some of the police brass have been planning to arm the drones, that wouldn't surprise me.

But if and when they do, all we can do, I suppose, is hope that the brass doesn't give control to the shooters who have shown (1) a lack of a skill in distinguishing innocent people from a Black, 280 pound fugitive and (2) a lack of skill in hitting what they were aiming for.

[frylock]

50. fuck tha police

[Angry Dragon]

54. Attempted murder

[steve2470]

56. yes these LEO agencies are trying to kill him, not capture him, it's very obvious nt

[LisaL]

96. He made it pretty obvious in his manifesto he isn't planning on being captured.

[kestrel91316]

103. That's irrelevant. The police have a duty to refrain from

acting as judge, jury, and executioner.

Are you familiar with the concept of "due process"? We don't gun down people in the US just because they are suspected of committing a crime. Dorner is innocent until proven guilty.

If you oppose these concepts you might want to rethink your place of residence.

[a2liberal]

134. We abolished that quaint concept of due process

Didn't you get the President's memo? If the bad guy is really scary, due process doesn't apply.

[kestrel91316]

138. I'm sorry. I guess I mistakenly thought Los Angeles was on American soil and not

a foreign war zone where terrorists like Al Qaeda are operating.

Due process has NOT been abolished. Combatants in war are not entitled to due process. The US military is not conducting operations in my city - LAPD is, and they MUST obey the law (though they don't like to).

You people need to get over your pro-Al Qaeda snit.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

124. Respectfully, the action of the cops indicate that they are planning on not capturing him.

Their actions indicate that the brass doesn't want him captured.

(1) First, there were multiple shootings by street cops against innocent people who don't even look like Dorner.

(2) Then, the response from the police spokesmen was to trivialize the life-threatening shootings.

In Purdue's case, the police issued a press release which said that Purdue was unhurt (meaning he was "not shot&quot . If they condemned the irresponsible and life-threatining shootings by their underlings, they didn't make such condemnation known to the general public.

Instead, it appears from what was first said by them was an expression of their attitude that "accidents happen." Or at least "accidents happen" when cops shoot at innocent civilians. It's unlikely that if any civilian were to shoot at a cop that the brass would take the same "accidents happen" attitude towards a civilian shooter.

Now that a little time has passed, it appears that the cavalier attitude of the police brass is not being displayed as much and that others who report to them will investigate the shootings. IMHO, the shootings should be investigated by an independent agency such as the FBI.


In the meantime, it appears that, against all odds, Dorner is still alive. It is unlikely, however, that any life-insurance company would want to underwrite a policy for him.

You're right that he's not planning on being captured. The police brass and the cops on the street don't want him captured either.

[Union Scribe]

119. Yep, shooting first asking questions later. nt

[liberalmuse]

55. Inexcusable.

I think the police are going to have to seriously re-evaluate their tactics after this Dorner mess. A free nation has no room for a fascist police force. We all read the stories every day where there is abuse of power by those we entrust to uphold the law.

There's a reason some people are walking the fine line of almost defending or at least supporting some of the items in Dorner's manifesto and his feelings towards the LAPD (without condoning his cold-blooded murder of 3 innocent people). He may be mentally disturbed, but I have no doubt that some of his observations about how the LAPD operates are dead on. I've met enough people in uniform to know that they will pose dead bodies in humiliating and disgusting ways and take pictures for their amusement. It's revolting and inexcusable.

Dorner aside, many of us who are law-abiding citizens have had personal experience with bad cops who think they can pull shit like this and get away with it (because the truth is, they do. We read about it every day. The cop who follows women hiking in the desert with his helicopter, then stops them and harasses them. Another cop gropes a pregnant woman. Countless "perps" getting shot in the back. Others bust into homes, scare the crap out of sleeping children, shoot the dog and, "Oops!" Wrong house. Nothing is done. This isn't some f*cking Wild West myth where you shoot 'em up and see if you can hit the bad guy. The victims are real people and this is gross negligence that will likely be swept under the rug.

[Heather MC]

57. I am sure the NRA is happy, at least it's. the good guys doing the shooting

[go west young man]

58. Sounds like they are employing the tactics they learned in Iraq.

Shoot any oncoming vehicle and ask questions later. This is an example of the chickens coming home to roost. Fortunately the fellow is still alive.

[PatrynXX]

59. although the Fist to the US Soldier is far worse.

I understand the worry for cops. Basically they are in panic mode. Idiot is playing with their minds. Already shot at the newspaper women. were they black or white?? never picked up on that until this story. Basically cops are going to be smashing alot of expensive trucks.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

64. You asked were the newspaper women "black or white??" The first reports said that they were Asian.

The subsequent reports said that they were Hispanic.

As one LA resident asked:

"How do you mistake two Hispanic women, one who is 71, for a large black male?" said Richard Goo, 62, who counted five bullet holes in the entryway to his house."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/dorner-manhunt-7-cops-mistakenly-fired-on-newspaper-carriers.html

In defense of the cops who mistakenly thought that one of the two women was Dorner, it should be noted that she was driving a Toyota Tacoma while Dorner had been driving a Nissan, with both types of vehicles being Asian brands. However, there was no explanation from the police department as to why some of the cops (or all of them) also shot up additional cars, trees, garage doors, and even roofs.

[JI7]

60. it wouldn't have been ok even if he was Black and same size as Dorner

[kestrel91316]

76. It wouldn't have been ok EVEN IF HE WERE DORNER.

Dorner is entitled to the presumption of innocence and to due process.

If they find Dorner they have a DUTY to offer him the opportunity to surrender peacefully. Only if he acts aggressively are they permitted to use violence or the threat of violence.

Time to put on your big boy and big girl pants, LAPD, and stop acting like panicky 10-year-olds.

[arcane1]

81. Perfectly said!

[AnotherMcIntosh]

128. They could, of course, offer him the opportunity to surrender peacefully before finding him.

Unless I'm mistaken, I don't think that they've done that.

[TeamPooka]

62. The way these cops shoot Dorner is the safest man alive.

[Bennyboy]

63. Okay, the war is on

Rogue cops shooting people for no reason and when they do, they don't hit anything. LAPD shot the paper delivery girls 58 times and neither one is dead. That is freaking laughable (in a Keystone Cops come to real life kind of way). (Think of the bazillion dollar lawsuit coming down the pike on that one for a minute)

Then this guy..... he gets the same treatment and he didn't even get hit. I thought cops were supposed to be trained in the use of firearms? Really?

LAPD,and by extension all cops, are getting their asses handed to them over this.


You also have to wonder if Dorner would have shot say three gay people, or anyone other than cops would they be making this big of deal over it? The costs of this are staggering with all the special guards and overtimes and over staffing and this vehicle and that vehicle running all over hell.

[SummerSnow]

65. Well gosh.How incompetent ..

Soon they'll be shooting store window mannequins

[obxhead]

66. Responsible gun owners in operation

use caution when in their vicinity.

[StrictlyRockers]

67. These Keystone Cops are no joke.

Somebody is going to die. And it won't be funny. They act like a gang out for blood and retribution and damn whoever gets in the way of that.

[Diclotican]

72. AnotherMcIntosh

AnotherMcIntosh

This is horrible - but I do wonder - what would happened if any of the victims of the LA PD, decided to shoot back - and hit better than the police officers... After all many americans seen to have availability of weapons - and this is kind of making me, if I had been in the states - wanting to have something to protect myself against attacks - that be from thief's and nut-cases with a grudge - but also agings scared police offices who shoot at anything that is remotely similar to the one they are trying to arrest, or take down...

On the other side - I also wonder why they are so scared that they are doing this attacks against ordinary citizens of Los Angeles... They have to be really, really scared to just indiscriminately shooting at trucks that is similar - but where the drivers are not even remotely similar to the one they are trying to arrest... They should have been able to recognize the fact, that he was not exactly a big black man - but rather a normal sized white male... It is pretty clear, that it was no similarity what so ever between the victim and the one they are hunting for this time around...

And I do hope at least, the man is getting a new truck - because he might as well need another truck, as I Guess the old one is scrap metal by now - been shot to peaces by the police...

Scared men, with weapons is a dangerously thing - and I guess the mighty LA PD IS scared - by a lone angry black man.. who know how to use a weapon..

Diclotican

[Jefferson23]

74. Isn't it time that another police force look for this guy? This is insane. n/t

[tabasco]

80. You don't have to be that bright to be a cop

and the occupation attracts dumbasses with low self esteem.

[Rozlee]

88. I read once that sociopaths are attracted to police work and that at any time

many metropolitan police departments may have up to 15% sociopathic police officers in their forces. I know that it's one of the top three professions that has the most domestic violence. A cop once stalked my daughter for ten years until she joined the Coast Guard and moved away. Reporting him to IA didn't help. I really have a low opinion of the police as an institution, although, individually, I've met a few good ones.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

120. That sounds about right, that is to say, correct, but wrong. Police officers should be held to a

high standard--trained and paid well.

[RedCappedBandit]

83. And the cop defenders wonder why people don't trust em.

[Brigid]

87. OK, I've seen a pic of Dorner.

And now I've seen this one. A stocky black guy and a skinny white guy. Yeah, easy mistake to make.

[Kalidurga]

89. If the situation wasn't so potentially deadly it would be hilarious.

Right now no one is safe from the LAPD. If I had a truck I wouldn't take it anywhere for the time being. I also wouldn't take out a surf board either just in case. At least the LAPD is getting some needed attention as is the TPD.

[flamingdem]

93. I'm looking for a bright orange vest and white flag to carry around personally

Hellllp!

Already saw one lookalike pulled over with three cop cars lights flashing rooting around in the trunk of his Mercedes. He was on the curb looking nonplussed.

[daleo]

90. They are acting like occupation troops in a foreign country

There's a lesson in here.

[flamingdem]

92. gnarly

black is white and white is black at the LAPD

[SamHarris2012]

94. Is it possible they made more than ONE of these trucks?

Second question: Why does the Torrance PD want Dorner dead so much?

[LisaL]

95. Maybe the fact that he is accused of killing a cop has something to do with it? No?

[SamHarris2012]

97. And just by sheer luck...

the cops don't have three murders on their hands.

no?

[kestrel91316]

104. So, you think that trying to kill him is in APPROPRIATE response?

This isn't the Soviet Union under Stalin, sweetcakes. We don't allow cops to take the law into their own hands. Their job is to arrest the man, not murder him.

I know this news disappoints you terribly.

[blkmusclmachine]

100. Drone first, ask questions never.

[Webster Green]

102. Anyone driving any color or type of pickup truck is now in danger of a police attack?

The descriptions of the suspect and the vehicle mean nothing to these idiots?

They plan to just start shooting at any pickup trucks they happen to see?

Amazing!

[AnotherMcIntosh]

130. The police brass can stop these irresponsible and life-threatening shootings at any time by just

publicly announcing that some of them are going to begin driving pickup trucks.

That won't happen, of course.

[intheflow]

106. Don't they have a license plate number?

I don't understand this at all. Once is a freak accident, twice is complete incompetence!

[freshwest]

143. The license plate could be switched out, but everything else points to rank incompetence.

[Neoma]

109. Time to bring out that old Offspring song.

[defacto7]

113. This is probably the

kind of mayhem that Dorner wanted to begin with and the police are just walking into his trap.

How many rights are the police going to step on? How much terror are the police going to cause before this guy is found?

Maybe Dorner has a point, maybe not, but he should be stopped. Unfortunately, the police are turning themselves into a joke and are stepping all over human rights in the process. It's like the police are the vigilantes now.

Get you heads on strait, officers.

[Divine Discontent]

114. wait? so the LAPD shot two older Latino in a truck, hoping it was Dorner, then also rammed this guy

hoping it was Dorner????

WTHIGO? The LAPD needs heavily questioned about this insanity...

[blackspade]

116. it just shows you....

How close other cops are to being just like Dorner.

A menace to the public.

[Vattel]

121. Wow, Torrance PD still hires assholes.

Back in the 70s my Dad's colleague used to ride his bike to work in Torrance. He wore a suit and tie to work, but because he was African American and his route to work included white neighborhoods, he was constantly stopped and questioned by the Torrance PD.

[In_The_Wind]

122. Kickin' it . . . in support of David Perdue

[NCTraveler]

126. Wow. That could be Dorners doppelganger. nt.

[Coolest Ranger]

129. what is with the LAPD

[DFW]

136. Well, yeah, but maybe there were mitigating circumstances

I mean, some of these cops probably hadn't shot anybody ALL WEEK

[AnotherMcIntosh]

137. Fortunately for David Perdue, when the shooting was over, they still hadn't.

[DFW]

139. OK, so they can't shoot straight

I still think they need to consider using inanimate targets for target practice in the future. Safer all around that way.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

140. To be fair to the police: Other than being a different race,

and a hundred pounds lighter,

the resemblance is striking.

[ZombieHorde]

151. Hmmm...two arms, two legs, one head, one torso,...he seems to match the discription. nt