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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf the LAPD execute Dorner in front of the nation....
I hope they have enough cops left to assign for riot control...#contingency plans...on my twitter feed
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)with a small arsenal commits suicide by cop.
Please, you give people way too little credit..
Tom Rinaldo
(23,187 posts)He may or may not have had a legitimate grievance, but he is a cold blooded killer of innocent people.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)Dorner just made it open season on LAPD....one of their own turned on them too?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Dorner didn't make it open season on anyone. He shot a couple of unarmed civilians and a Riverside cop.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)crazy violent blacks. Apologies.
theKed
(1,235 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)theKed
(1,235 posts)Someone's trying to instigate me online.
FR too backed up for you tonight?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)It's rightwing racist shit--that the minorities will riot because they think Dorner is a hero. Talking points straight out of Twitchy.com
Either that, or the OP is one of those crazy fucknuts who think Dorner will be a martyr for the cause if he dies while trying to kill cops.
theKed
(1,235 posts)executing someone who dares look wrong at 'Murica, huh?
Carry on.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)wrong at 'Murica" is dumber and crazier than Ted Nugent.
Your poor persecuted martyr murdered four innocent people--one of them today--and was still shooting at people this afternoon.
Go sit next to the Sandy Hook Truthers.
theKed
(1,235 posts)I am in no way exonerating anyone from murder...not Chris Dorner and not the LEO who execute him.
You are the one who doesn't want him to have his constitutionally-guaranteed rights to a trial and due process.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)for "daring to look wrong at 'Murca.' (Another lie on your part)
No, he's a fucking murderer who died in a violent confrontation with police of his own making. That is why he is dead.
The fact that you would baldly lie in order to minimize his crimes, the danger he posed to innocent people, and the reason he died all indicate a foul sympathy for a serial killer.
Maybe you can join the Holmies, given your affection for mass murderers.
theKed
(1,235 posts)so the LAPD unloaded 100+ rounds of ammunition into a truck that was nothing like Dorner's, containing two woen who look like nothing like Dorner, because they...weren't trying to kill him in a bloody, brutal fashion?
He is an as-yet-unconvicted alleged murderer killed by police for threatening to commit acts against them.
Am I excusing him? No matter how many times and in what ways you try to cram those words in my mouth, no. He should have been arrested and brought in for trial. It is painfully apparent LEO never intended to take him alive. Painfully. And you are enabling and encouraging that sort of action.
You might have better luck peddling your bullshit with the freepers.
Now, shoo.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)And whose fault is it that he wasn't? The couple he kidnapped this weekend? The deputy he murdered today? The fish and wildlife wardens he shot?
Here's a radical notion: it's his own damn fault for shooting at anyone who tried to take him into custody.
And, please explain your claim that all he did was 'daring to look at 'Murca wrong." Seems like Denialism along the lines of David Irving.
theKed
(1,235 posts)I think I should stop feeding the trolls before I go too far.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)was 'executed' for 'daring to look wrong at 'Murca."
Sorry, but outside of the Support Chris Dorner Facebook page, you're uniquely unqualified to determine who's a troll.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)The cabin is going to be surronded by swat teams, and I would imagine they will try to enter in a few days if talks break down. If he want's to surrender, then I expect him to be taken into custody alive.
If he gets into a shootout and dies, then I won't shed a tear.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)was 'executed' for 'daring to look at 'Murca' wrong.
Because that is objectively crazy talk.
MH1
(19,156 posts)mind you, I am not in favor of executing anyone. I am against the death penalty on principle. But when a murderer commits suicide by cop, I'm not going to make them a martyr.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)And then I see posts like that.
theKed
(1,235 posts)but, rather, a CONSTITUTION supporter.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)that what he had done was 'daring to look at 'Murca wrong."
I suspect you wouldn't have the balls to break out the 'daring to look wrong at 'Murca' line around the family of the cop he murdered today.
P.S. murdering people isn't a constitutional right. Sorry you're all butthurt that someone put a stop to his killing.
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)for "daring to look wrong at 'Murca."
Seriously, aren't you a little embarrassed you wrote that garbage?
theKed
(1,235 posts)embarrassed everytime you open your mouth?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Dorner was being executed for 'daring to look wrong at 'Murca."
theKed
(1,235 posts)or your "demands". You have shown no willingness or ability for coherent discourse. So I will say good day to you, sir.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)pretty much total fail.
Good work. You wrote maybe the craziest DU post of the day--so crazy even you won't defend it.
theKed
(1,235 posts)for taking the title from you for a short period.
You do not discuss the actual issue, instead setting up strawman after strawman to tilt at like a victorious Quixote. It bores me.
But as I said...Good Day.
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)He died resisting the cops he hated so much, kind of like a suicide bomber.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Yeah, and the fairies in your backyard hiding under toadstools agree with you. No one else does.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)theKed
(1,235 posts)Against my better judgement, I haven't alerted on anyone in ... well, at least a month.
ChazII
(6,448 posts)support the murder of innocent people?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Ex-cops not being their favorite people.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Every black person is a closet Nat Turner in this one, and they will be OUTRAGED if a guy who killed innocent people commits suicide by cop, so the theory goes.
Only a white person who has zero contact with people of color would write something this stupid.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)it's a stereotype
same bullsheet during Katrina, easily debunked.
same bullsheet during Sandy
same bullsheet by the nra
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)if obama loses re-election.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)if he dies in a gunfight with police?
Lemme guess--white person?
dionysus
(26,467 posts)MrScorpio
(73,772 posts)But I'm not counting out a riot in the future for other reasons
HipChick
(25,612 posts)is the amount of support that has been generated for this guy..
and LAPD resources are tapped out looking for him..
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)on his behalf?
Come on, say it.
cali
(114,904 posts)Hey, Charlie Manson has more facebook likes than Dorner.
And it looks like this is something you're just panting for, honey.
Sick.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)dies while shooting at cops, dontchaknow? That's how 'those people' are.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)name not needed
(11,665 posts)backscatter712
(26,357 posts)Why, everybody knows the lesser races are incapable of self control...
zappaman
(20,627 posts)I've read some dumb things on the internet before , but this...
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)it is dumb
randome
(34,845 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)You make the statement that it sounds like the OP ("someone", don't be coy), is looking forward to rioting, etc. You say this without a shred of evidence, and your like-minded compatriots pick up posts like this, go to Meta, and claim that people are celebrating Dorner, and will no one rid us of this problem, etc, etc.
Well, no one is supporting Dorner, and the OP is not looking forward to some hypothetical race riot. You're wrong, and you should really remove a post that makes such a base accusation when you don't have a scintilla of evidence to support the point you made out of whole cloth. I know you won't remove it, but I am saying that you should. It's a pretty serious accusation when people are dying this hour at Big Bear.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)who will get violent and riot and view him as a martryr.
Those are all rightwing talking points that get raised--exclusively when the topic involves black people.
See, e.g., the "blacks will riot if Obama loses" hysteria.
The only basis for predicting riots is the delusional fantasies in the OP's mind. It is not based on any semblance of reality.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)about.
I'm posting about randome's attempted character assassination of the OP. He's accused the OP of wanting riots to happen, of looking forward to such an event. It's slanderous. It's not right.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)because a 4-time murderer shooting at cops gets his own ass shot.
For one, it won't be an execution. It'll be an armed nutjob getting himself shot.
For another, the LAPD won't be on the scene.
zappaman
(20,627 posts)I think you are being too kind calling this OP "plain nuts".
They will be no riots over this murderer as much as some would apparently like to see it.
cali
(114,904 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)would be so STUPID as to execute someone on live TV that the ludicrous notion of that plus riots sounds like something borne out of a drunken tweet instead of common sense.
I mean both propositions are so ludicrous, it sounds very much like something Ted Nugent would say -you know, always blustering about how tough he is but never following through on something?
So yeah, it does sound like something someone would write who has nothing to gain or lose by sounding stupid.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)You know this. I won't belabor the point much longer.
Here's the functional equivalent of your accusation:
Person 1: I believe that single-engine turboprops from Cessna can go Mach 7.
Person 2: (instead of telling person 1 how factually incorrect they are, instead says): "Sounds like someone wanted everyone on the Hindenburg to die".
Both statements have a little something to do with air travel, but nothing to do with one another, and the statement by the second person does a real disservice to the first person.
Thank you.
randome
(34,845 posts)It was just something she found on her Twitter feed.
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)is exactly stupid enough to execute someone on live TV.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)by "executed" the OP clearly means if dorner dies in a shootout with cops. unless he/she means they will literally put his back to a wall and his face to a firing squad. in which case maybe there may be riots, but since that won't happen....
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)EVERYONE has heard those allegations before. If LAPD were SOOOOO afraid of Dorner, he'd probably have been dead for years now.
I guess the fact he's still alive is testimony to the schmartz of LAPD; They let him live until he went off the rails, so they could kill him in a "justified" kind of way.
zappaman
(20,627 posts)Rioting cuz a mass murderer is killed...
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)we have known it for years
AND
he is a physcho murderer.
Why some people think those are mutually exclusive positions is beyond me.
flamingdem
(40,888 posts)"to keep the suspect from knowing more" .. the case COULD be made ..
FSogol
(47,623 posts)flamingdem
(40,888 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)yeah right
will you be part of the uprising? help lead it? don't wait for others, get on out there and keep us posted.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Party Favors
(21 posts)ask the two newspaper delivery ladies if there's a riot going on.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)At the airport.
For the record, we are very shocked Dorner is still in the San Bernardinos.
liberalmuse
(18,881 posts)that there are going to be copycats. And I hope people don't in any way think I'm sympathizing with Dorner - because it seems you can't say anything on DU without angering some people, who then accuse you of being a sympathizer because their reading comprehension sucks, but this situation will breed copycats because apparently the LAPD is extremely unpopular and dare I say, have been known to be corrupt. And the fact that Dorner is black. I'm sure many people of color have been mistreated by their respective police forces for the sheer reason of having more pigment in their skin. I've seen it myself. Sadly, I used to pass a pulled over car and guess the person pulled over was hispanic or black and I would be correct 99% of the time. There are also the pictures of a smiling man who looks like LL Cool J all over the net. And the fact that he was in the military and probably unfairly discharged because of the mess with the LAPD firing. Then there's the manifesto.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)But I agree with your post...the copycats armed to the teeth in the midst of Gun control debate..
liberalmuse
(18,881 posts)I work with some gun nuts who are buying even more guns and ammo and are itching for an excuse to use it.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)need to know what these nuts are thinking
liberalmuse
(18,881 posts)they are subtle, but I know that my right wing co-workers are buying as much guns and ammo as they can afford. Peace-loving people in this country are basically f*cked. And Dorner isn't going to help things because he has put a very human face on a cold-blooded killer. I can't wait for the articles by psychology experts on this one.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)JI7
(93,615 posts)why the need for some to make this more than it is i don't know.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Trust me.
regnaD kciN
(27,639 posts)It's not in their jurisdiction. The situation is being handled by San Bernardino County Sheriff's Office.
Algebra Palin
(34 posts)lol.
temporary311
(960 posts)It's scary stuff.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And I don't dressed in grunge.
Yup, I pay attention to things most don't
zappaman
(20,627 posts)If you say so...
cali
(114,904 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)sad-cafe
(1,277 posts)what?
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)liberalmuse
(18,881 posts)It's not even a close second.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)bayareamike
(602 posts)Dorner is a MASS MURDERER. He didn't "make it open season" on cops. He's going to get what's coming to him and I for one am going to say, "good riddance".
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)RudynJack
(1,044 posts)Last night I read something here that I was the dumbest thing in the history of forever. It's nice to know there's no upper limit on dumb.
Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)And woul you consider it an "execution" if they shoot him while he is shooting at them?
bayareamike
(602 posts)Common Sense Party
(14,139 posts)liberalmuse
(18,881 posts)Any sort of action like that is horrific and traumatizing to watch for anyone, regardless where their sympathies lie. I happened to be home, sick on that day and saw people burn to death on live tv. It gives the anti-government, anti-police population TONS of ammo and justification to carry out terrible things that were formerly only thoughts in their heads (See: "Timothy McVeigh"
.
joshcryer
(62,536 posts)If he comes out unarmed, then he will be taken into custody without much incident (perhaps a pummeling, but I'm sure that officers are being told to have restraint).
If he comes out armed he will be suiciding by cop and will not live very long and the nation will not give a shit about his death (some conspiracy people might, but they are conspiracy people for a reason).
If he kills himself they may not know until tomorrow because they will have to send in a robot to ascertain the situation and that is a slow process. They'll let the body go cold before announcing it to the public.
cali
(114,904 posts)One of the deputies he shot has died. He's determined to go out in a blaze. The Game Wardens tried to stop him. That didn't work.
Ridiculous dog shit post.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)so that there will no news, and thus, no accountability on their parts. They worked hard to minimize media presence before destroying the OccupyLA encampment as well. No videos, no lawsuits, no angry citizens, no problems for LAPD.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)#Dorner is very active and trending right now..
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Dorner isn't Rodney King.
DearHeart
(692 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 12, 2013, 08:46 PM - Edit history (1)
I'd be very surprised if he makes it out alive...especially since it's being reported that the 2 deputies shot today have died.
I'm so tired of all the killing! Can barely watch the news anymore, it's so heartbreaking
After watching the coverage in the past few minutes, I might be wrong! We may indeed see him killed on tv. I truly hope not! I don't think anyone should see that!!!
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)He is shooting at other law enforcement.... not LAPD I believe. He killed a San Bernadino Sheriff deputy this afternoon, wounded another. He broke into a couples house, tied them up, stole their truck, hijacked another guy at gun point. He is not the victim in this.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)But this wasn't in LA. We won't know for a while how the fire started.
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dionysus
(26,467 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)They both displayed their irrational violent tendencies.
onenote
(46,139 posts)See how well that works.
HipChick
(25,612 posts)It's from a Twitter feed..
applegrove
(132,207 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)edbermac
(16,447 posts)Come on.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)has been insane for a long time -- long before he landed his gig with the LAPD. Read the manifesto. He's still bent about things that happened in high school.
Has it occurred to you that the LAPD pushed him out, not because they are racists, but because this guy was nuts and a danger to everybody.
If it hasn't yet occurred to you, please think on that a little.
backscatter712
(26,357 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)zappaman
(20,627 posts)I have dinner plans tonight...