***** State of the Union LiveBlog Thread III *****

[Coyotl]

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/

***** State of the Union LiveBlog Thread I *****
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022360582

***** State of the Union LiveBlog Thread II *****
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022362027

[uponit7771]

1. There's so much hatred in that chamber and it's 99% GOPers projecting it...Obama has a hard job

[flamingdem]

8. He's so sunny and high energy he make them look like

toads... frogs in some cases

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. Light vs Scowl

[gateley]

11. He rises above it with class oozing from every pore. They're inconsequential.

[Beartracks]

144. Sadly, they are very consequential.

People voting Republican set in motion unfortunate consequences.

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[Coyotl]

16. Yeah, they are hating how well Obama is doing and how irrelevant they are.

They didn't like Roosevelt either!

[nolabear]

2. YAY preschool!! YAY early childhood education!

[uponit7771]

5. ...and GOPers sit on their hands. They're disgusting

[gademocrat7]

6. I agree!

[gateley]

3. Whoa -- did Boehner NOT applaud at the preschool for every child??

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Oops...that's what happens when you are tipsy

[gateley]

20. Yeah, he can't stand up.

[uponit7771]

18. Most GOPers did, they are disgusting

[gateley]

23. I thought there was more (dare I say it?) bipartisan reaction tonight -- but that could be because,

as Rachel pointed out, the Dems and Reps are evenly scattered throughout.

[Rhiannon12866]

96. Poor Chuck Schumer is stuck between McCain and Graham...

[gateley]

98. They're all part of the Old Gang -- they probably get along okay. But still...

[Rhiannon12866]

109. Schumer's my senator, so I was watching

He was smiling and clapping and looked side to side. McCain gave him a quick pained smile while Graham didn't even bother to look up...

[gateley]

121. Well, I DO think both McCain AND Graham have toddled around the bend together. If they can't even

be civil to an old colleague, then fuck 'em!

[Rhiannon12866]

180. I have no hope for Graham, but McCain used to go after the Republicans

Even more than the Democrats did. I respected him then, but I agree he's completely gone round the bend by now... He should have had the nomination in 2000, though I doubt he would have won, but Bush* (and Karl Rove) stole that, too...

[gateley]

186. Yeah, he's changed a LOT. And I'm stealing your sig pic! It's great!

[Rhiannon12866]

189. Thanks!

And I completely agree about John McCain. He may say that he's "forgiven" the Bush* campaign, but how could he?! The attacks on him were lower than low and prevented him from getting the nomination which I think he'd earned in 2000. By 2008 he was long past it.

And you're more than welcome to my pic! I've had it there since the campaign and I like it so much that I've kept it...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

4. Texas (or any state that needs it the most) will say no to pre-school for every child nt

[uponit7771]

10. Yeap, mostly red states...

[politicat]

12. Oklahoma didn't...

(Though it started as a scam...)

We can hope that spreads.

[liberalmuse]

9. Boehner is a disgrace.

Does he even have a clue how bad he looks up there, pouting, sitting on his hands and sipping his vodka?

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

66. True that.

[siligut]

111. Denial is part of the disease

And he looked like he was trying to lean as far from Obama as he could, he is better now.

[2naSalit]

187. He honestly looked like

he was vacillating between outright hateful disgust and trying not to cry, Smarmyboy-loser Ryan looked like he was some bored preppy in church who was totally annoyed at having to be there in the audience and that the whole things wasn't about him.

And I saw wangotangoboy in the balcony on C-SPAN but not on MSNBC. He looked sullen and was way back against the wall, I didn't see the little red dot on his temple but it wasn't a close-up either.

Glad I didn't have to be there with all that negative energy swarming about.

[StarryNite]

13. Is our children learning?

Dumbass republicans.

[nolabear]

15. And while we're talking little kids and schools, Mr. President...

[Honeycombe8]

17. Education is the key to the future. If the deficit talk for "our children's future" is real, then

they'd care about education.

[NYC_SKP]

19. Did I hear him say STEM, Science Technology Engineering and Math?

I hope I did!

[AnnieBW]

29. Yep, you heard that right!

WOOHOO!

[Honeycombe8]

21. Immigration reform. Rethugs groan as they stand w/the Dems. nt

[nolabear]

26. Except Boehner, who appears to be in a coma.

[Honeycombe8]

169. LOL. Yeah, he was a bit...shall we say low key, tonight?

[Javaman]

22. Uh oh. anyone having an issue with the cspan feed? nt

[theKed]

25. ABC/Yahoo! Feed's fine and solid still

[brer cat]

27. I am. It's awful tonight. nt

[dhill926]

24. will someone please get Boehner.....

a cig and a drink. Poor guy looks miserable.....

[uponit7771]

28. NO MORE H1 VISAS!

[gateley]

67. Did he say that?

I had to take a call. Thanks.

[Coyotl]

30. "The time has come to pass comprehensive immigration reform"

Real reform means border security, establish a responsible pathway to citizenship behind the line of people coming legally, reforming immigration system. We know what needs to be done.

[Honeycombe8]

31. Legal immigration reform to bring in professional employees. Rethugs jump out of their seats

with applause.

[politicat]

32. Mr. President, American universities will need more NSF funding...

If you're going to ask us to make our budgets leaner. Research is already suffering. Otherwise, we will be doing pay for play science for the highest corporate bidder, rather than actual research. That way lies disaster.

[avaistheone1]

43. I agree.

[2naSalit]

188. That way is already pretty much the norm from what I've seen.

[politicat]

190. It is, in my field, but truly, it can get worse.

Right now, in my field*, we run 51% non-corp funding and 49% corporate funding. We are keeping it that way by almost pure force of will. That means that while the corps have an interest in what our research produces, they can't stop us from publishing the results they don't like, and they can't prevent us from publishing data that is in the public's interest. They also cannot prevent us from reporting to the FDA when the research warrants.

Right now, I have 3 FDA label warnings to my credit. The day I get a dangerous drug pulled from the market is the day I retire. If Pharma is calling the shots, we lose the ability to kill drugs like Vioxx because those drugs are profitable, and Pharma will take their chances with a class action and the FDA. More importantly, since the research is at least partly publicly funded, it automatically enters the public domain and cannot be patented or suppressed as a trade secret.

If all of the research is under patent, science stops and it becomes much harder to challenge the dangerous.

* I'm in neuropsych, so we work with Pharma a lot.

[StarryNite]

33. From my Aussie friend...

"I meant to congratulate you regarding President Obama being re-elected ... AWESOME!!! ... We of the international community and I'm sure your own country, are far better off ) No one here liked the other guy ... thank goodness he didn't win!!!"

[Honeycombe8]

34. Violence Against Women Act. Biden wrote it 20 yrs ago. Senate has passed it.

[llmart]

35. Boner doesn't care about violence against women.....

or paycheck fairness act. Who's the bimbo shaking her head no?

[longship]

36. Good job, Joe! (VAWA pass Sen) nt

[nolabear]

37. No violence, equal pay. Damn Skippy!

[avaistheone1]

38. Upping H-1B visas is not very labor friendly or fair.

I am not happy to see the President tied this to immigration reform.

[uponit7771]

44. +1

[marlakay]

39. I am so glad he spoke about women

act and fair wage…

[Coyotl]

40. Equal pay for women = YES

[Honeycombe8]

41. Raise federal min. wage to $9/hr. nt

[Hayabusa]

42. Wow, I thought Boehner would at least give a token clap

for wage equality. Guess not.

[liberal N proud]

45. Republican women don't want fair pay?

Saw several looking mean when he mentioned fair pay.

[dhill926]

55. unreal.......

what is wrong with those folks....

[liberal N proud]

65. They are too consumed by hate!

[Neurotica]

60. They looked positively grouchy at the idea

Unbelievable.

[Honeycombe8]

61. The women they know either don't work or don't work in jobs affected by it. A guess.

They are funded by corporations who don't want to have to fight lawsuits about unfair pay.

[Hayabusa]

76. I pray it's some sort of Stockholm Syndrome.

[bluestateguy]

46. Bad night for LW Obama haters

Raise the minimum wage.

[EastKYLiberal]

47. Minimum wage increase!!!

[Javaman]

48. Tied to the cost of living! That would be wonderful

Ah I can dream.

[NYC Liberal]

49. Even $9 is nothing but a raise is NEEDED.

[justiceischeap]

50. Ruth Bader Ginsberg is sleeping. nt

[TwilightGardener]

58. Aw. God bless her.

[Honeycombe8]

71. Shhhhhhh.

[msanthrope]

73. Resting her eyes, resting her eyes. nt

[redwitch]

51. I see smirk boy is there.

Blech.

[npk]

52. Raise minimum wage to $9 an hour

"Tie minimum wage to cost of living, so that it is actually a wage that you can live on." Right on President.

[Skidmore]

53. Boehner keeps hydrating.

[Coyotl]

54. Raise the minimun wage to $9.00 an hour. About time, but make that $10, + tie to COL

And tax revenues increase while there is a perfect economic stimulus.

[npk]

64. Absolutely.

I can't believe how far this country is behind on providing a cost of living wage for full time workers. So many other countries have gotten this one right, it is more than time that we did as well.

[llmart]

56. Oh, Lord....

now Boner's pulling out his hankie. Is he going to cry?

[TexasTowelie]

191. No.

He blew his nose and stared at the boogers!

[StarryNite]

57. Thank you to my heart donor!

[shanti]

59. hard to make a living on minimum wage

when your employer won't give you full time hours...

[littlemissmartypants]

68. And there is no federal definition of

"full time" ... I checked.

[Coyotl]

62. You can sure tell Obama won the election by a landslide :-). MANDATE at work!

[JimDandy]

63. Yes!! Tie the minimum wage to the cost of living. n/t

[llmart]

69. Oh oh...

where's Nugent while he's talking about our military.

[liberalmuse]

85. Crapping his pants, probably.

I'm just bracing myself for when Obama gets to gun control.

[llmart]

94. Me too.

He's saving the best for last. He'll get a standing ovation I'm sure. Well, except for the RW nutjobs.

[ChazII]

70. Good line about what it takes to be a father. n/t

[WhoIsNumberNone]

72. Boner's crying!!!!

Just pulled a handkerchief from his pocket and blew his nose!

I didn't hear anything Obama said that should have brought that on....



Oooh- Looks like he's about to get weepy again....

[gateley]

80. Lindsey Graham probably is too, with the Afghanistan comment.

[SteveG]

166. He is seeing the future

and it's making him sad, cause he is on the wrong side of history and he knows it.

[gateley]

74. Has Boehner stood once? Or is that verboten for the opposing Speaker?

[WhoIsNumberNone]

84. I think I saw him stand once...

What was said at that moment didn't register at the time, but I noticed he's not been standing too. He's also been much more reserved in his clapping than Biden.

[gateley]

89. Well, that's to be expected, I guess. Immature.

[rurallib]

75. Boehner is dying for a drink

never seen anyone so uncomfortable.

[longship]

77. Chiefs no applaud end Afghan war nt

[NYC Liberal]

82. I think they don't applaud anything

like the SCOTUS justices. They stay "impartial."

[longship]

87. They stood and applauded al Qaida battle talk nt

[politicat]

95. They never applaud.

They're in the presence of their Commander in Chief. They don't react to anything. Protocol.

[Honeycombe8]

78. AQ is a shadow of its former self. (Obama policy did that. So much for Democrats weak on defense.)

[ChisolmTrailDem]

79. He seems to be setting up the republican'ts for all sorts of opportunities to

vote against the better interests of the middle class. He's daring them to show they are against the American people by being against him.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

88. they did that for four years and look who won. Eventually the idea that pukes don't care will

reach an irreversible critical mass

[ChisolmTrailDem]

90. And I believe that is what the President is reaching for...

He's using the republican'ts hatred of him against them to finish them off as the obstructionists they are.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

185. right....he's been saying it forever now - but he's closer than ever now. Just the green ribbons

told it all too

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

81. Help Yemen defend itself?

It's a NRA dream. All sorts of guns freely available with no permits needed.

[StarryNite]

83. Getting us out of Afghanistan

He makes me so proud to be an American!

And thanks to my second heart donor! I really appreciate it!

[gateley]

91. And Lindsey sobbed.

[Honeycombe8]

86. Ties - an array of colors tonight. Wow, man...I see colors.

[longship]

92. Maybe cut back on the LSD. ;-) nt

[Honeycombe8]

107. lol nt

[beveeheart]

93. "We should be able to get it done on a bi-partisan basis"

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

97. Boehner still looks uncomfortable.

[politicat]

100. Maybe he should get one of those donut rings to sit on...

Or lay off the vodka rocks...

[Javaman]

99. Equal benefits for Gay soldiers. :) nt

[WhoIsNumberNone]

101. The right to vote: Boner not applauding.

[Honeycombe8]

102. Voting lines issue!!!!! nt

[Javaman]

103. Election Reform! nt

[Tree-Hugger]

104. Improve the voting experience in America

Because no one should have to wait 5 hours to vote. YES!!!!

[Coyotl]

105. One of the most fundamental rights of democracy, the right to VOTE

When any American is denied that right "we are betraying our ideals" ...

Announcing a non-partisan commission to fix voting.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

106. Here comes Turd Nugent's cue to be an ass...

[Coyotl]

108. How to reduce gun violence = this time is different!

[Honeycombe8]

110. Giffords and hubby there. Gun issue! How can she look so good after what she's been thru? nt

[StarryNite]

115. Gabby Giffords

looks beautiful!

[narnian60]

117. She is precious.

[Coyotl]

112. Who the F is still sitting down for "these proposals deserve a vote"

[WhoIsNumberNone]

137. Boner.

Probably Turd Nugent too, but oddly enough he's not been on camera yet...

[Hayabusa]

113. Boehner doesn't care about her

he's still staring intently at the President's back with a sour look on his face.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

114. Obama talking about dead kids

No tears from Boner now...

[Marrah_G]

116. "They deserve a Vote!"

[dhill926]

122. incredibly powerful moment.....

[annabanana]

124. tears

[Marrah_G]

132. I'm in tears too

[StarryNite]

125. YES!

"They deserve a vote!"

[supernova]

128. What was the chamber chanting?

I couldn't quite make it out.

[Marrah_G]

156. "vote"

[DearHeart]

118. What's being shouted??

I hope it's nothing obnoxious

[Honeycombe8]

129. "Vote!" I think. nt

[Coyotl]

119. "Gabby Giffords deserves a vote"

[Honeycombe8]

119. "Deserve a vote" it's moving, but a little too much showmanship?

[narnian60]

130. Nope.

[annabanana]

131. No.. Because it's not a request. It's a demand.

[Honeycombe8]

158. Well, okay, then. It's ok.

[Coyotl]

136. Huh? That is just part of getting it accomplished.

[Marrah_G]

140. No

[uponit7771]

157. hell naw

[Grown2Hate]

123. Fucking A, that was powerful! ::wipes tear:: NT

[Hayabusa]

126. Damn that was powerful

[6000eliot]

127. I don't hink I've ever seen such a powerful moment in a SOTU address.

[Neurotica]

138. Agreed. Still wiping tears away. n/t

[StarryNite]

139. It's amazing!

[Marrah_G]

147. I agree

Very, very powerful

[DearHeart]

150. First SOTU to bring tears to my eyes! nt

[Warpy]

133. Pity they didn't cut to Nugent (up in the nosebleed seats)

during his tribute to gun victims and call for better control. It would have been fun to see him trying to swallow a mildewed slug.

[kimmylavin]

134. That was incredible!

And yes, they deserve a vote.

[Tree-Hugger]

135. What were they chanting?

When he said they deserve a vote?

Were they chanting "vote?" Or "no?"

[Doremus]

141. I wonder too. nt

[Honeycombe8]

146. I think it was "vote!"

[Tree-Hugger]

165. Good! :) nt

[Marrah_G]

148. "Vote"

[liberal N proud]

142. What was the chanting at "they deserve a vote"?

[Coyotl]

167. Vote. Vote. Vote.

[Honeycombe8]

143. Desalene has good hair, unless it's a wig. 102 years old!

[gateley]

145. Boehner didn't even stand for the 102 year old patriot????

[Marrah_G]

152. He didnt stand for anything

It was very noticable

[Honeycombe8]

149. "That's just the way we're made." Protecting with 12 bullets in him. An true hero.

[StarryNite]

159. "A true hero"

Absolutely!

[Marrah_G]

174. Yes!

Sometimes we forget the good our law enforcement can do.

[npk]

151. What a complete and utter asshole Boehner is.

Didn't even stand up and applaud for a woman who is 102 years old waiting for over 6 hours to cast a vote on behalf of her country. Eat shit you heartless POS.

[annabanana]

153. Finishes strong wtih the responsibilities of CITIZENS

A word that needs more use, IMHO

[DearHeart]

163. I agree! People think that voting is their only civic duties!

We need to get our and make sure we win seats in 2014.

[Javaman]

154. Moving speech. Thank you Mr. President. :) nt

[longship]

155. I am in tears from that great ending flourish!

[AsahinaKimi]

160. Wow..he had me in tears...

sugoi ! Great speech.

[dhill926]

170. yup.....

really can't remember a SOTU like this....but that just may be me ha ha....

[AsahinaKimi]

175. I think what tore me up the most

Was talking about some of the heros present there tonight.. and the expressions on their faces.. Tears just started running down my face.

[dhill926]

178. that's what did it.....

[WinstonSmith4740]

161. Boehner looks like he been sucking on a lemon.

Actually, looks pretty normal for him.

Oh, Obama's going after gun laws. Excellent...gotta watch.

[Coyotl]

162. Thank you for the hearts ....

very kind

[rocktivity]

164. Do Chris Dorner's victims derserve a vote?

rocktivity

[bagimin]

168. Boy.....he's no Mitt Romney

[rocktivity]

172. Well the GOP rebuttals are coming up next

Time to break out the booze!


rocktivity

[dhill926]

176. and the mute button ha ha...

[Coyotl]

171. John Kerry in the chamber as Secretary of State.

[struggle4progress]

173. Good job, Boss!

[Rhiannon12866]

181. Agreed! Terrific speech!!!

[llmart]

177. Time to turn it off......

before Rubio comes on.

[Honeycombe8]

179. But I need the pundits to tell me what I think about the SOTU address!

(sarcasm)

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

182. Marco

Rubio

[Coyotl]

184. I hung in there for three sentences.

Found out he didn't inherit any money from his parents. Must be tough being a Republican and not inheriting any money

[Rhiannon12866]

183. Time to take the dog out...