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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:25 PM Feb 2013

Zoos pair up cheetahs and dogs to help the cheetahs survive


In this Nov. 29, 2012 photo, Shiley, a male cheetah 3-and-a-half-years-old, and Yeti, a female Anatolian shepherd who serves as Shiley's partner, take a break outside the elephant enclosure during a walk through Safari Park, in Escondido, Calif. Although the dogs and cats live together, they are not always with one another. Dogs have play dates with other dogs and humans, and they eat separately from the cheetahs. Photo: Lenny Ignelzi

"It is all about comforting and reassuring the cheetah," said Janet Rose-Hinostroza, animal training supervisor at the San Diego Zoo Safari Park — the top U.S. breeder of cheetahs in captivity. In the past 40 years, 135 cheetahs have been born at the park's breeding facility.

The cheetahs most often found at zoos and wildlife parks are not considered good breeding candidates, they don't relate well to other cheetahs, or they are abandoned by their mothers, Rose-Hinostroza said. But they seem to take easily to companion dogs and look to the dogs for play and example.

Of the 19 cheetahs at Safari Park, four have dogs. Four of the zoo's cheetahs also have dogs.

The dogs, usually from animal shelters, and cheetah pups generally are introduced when they are about 3 months old.

"In this relationship, the dog is dominant, but we look for dogs that want to be a buddy," Rose-Hinostroza said. "The dog always has the cat's back, but it's never the other way around. Dogs worry about their cats. They protect their cats."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/science/article/Dogs-cross-species-barrier-help-cheetahs-survive-4270468.php#ixzz2KoRTh0Hf
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Zoos pair up cheetahs and dogs to help the cheetahs survive (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 OP
Felines are the superior species on the planet and all others are there to serve them. Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #1
Negative. Myrina Feb 2013 #2
Cats rule; dogs drool. Didn't you get the memo?? kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #36
Dogs are kiss asses. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #39
Worse yet, a dog will like his own SheilaT Feb 2013 #66
Wait til that dog looks at the cheetah the wrong way! michigandem58 Feb 2013 #59
The Anatolian Shepherd is a guard dog, and the job is to attack and kill bears jtuck004 Feb 2013 #62
Bring it! michigandem58 Feb 2013 #64
.... DeSwiss Feb 2013 #65
LOL. n/t jtuck004 Feb 2013 #71
I'm still cracking up over the penguins. Thanks. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #6
You're welcome. Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #7
me too barbtries Feb 2013 #61
Me, too! OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #13
I've always loved the GIF. Penguins! Who would've expected that from a penguin? SharonAnn Feb 2013 #54
Well, of course: freshwest Feb 2013 #8
I love that graphic. It certainly explains the "Cat attitude" n/t truedelphi Feb 2013 #28
We know that is a lie... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #40
Lie or lay? Everyone's a critic. :( freshwest Feb 2013 #47
Nah, just kidding around... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #49
Ah, but Ceiling Cat never sleeps and knows everything you do, it's rumored. freshwest Feb 2013 #50
A cat would never lie. It was the dog's fault. Kennah Feb 2013 #56
Never assume a cat is sleeping. They are plotting. nm rhett o rick Feb 2013 #60
Someone forgot to send the memo to the pomeranians. beevul Feb 2013 #24
That's hilarious. Arugula Latte Feb 2013 #41
It truly is. beevul Feb 2013 #45
We used to have a cat that would swear at us. SheilaT Feb 2013 #67
Yes! Dogs have "owners". Cats have "staff". SharonAnn Feb 2013 #53
When the cheetahs xxqqqzme Feb 2013 #3
sounds cool. Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #9
Pets have pets. alfredo Feb 2013 #27
Yes! freshwest Feb 2013 #31
Back in the early 1980's, there was a zookeeper at Brookfield Zoo truedelphi Feb 2013 #29
Some of those dogs ought to be greyhounds meow2u3 Feb 2013 #4
Saw somebody try that once on TV. Brigid Feb 2013 #33
Yeah, but only up to to 500 meter mark nt NoGOPZone Feb 2013 #37
Dogs always improve alsame Feb 2013 #5
... PETRUS Feb 2013 #11
I have owned dogs that were of this type and they are selfless protectors. freshwest Feb 2013 #10
I have a friend with a border collie & 2 Australian shephards SoCalDem Feb 2013 #19
Hahaha!!! Great story!! nt blaze Feb 2013 #22
Yes, I have some stories I could tell but don't have the time. Thanks for that one. freshwest Feb 2013 #25
A friend has a border collie who always tries to keep the guests "herded" together. SharonAnn Feb 2013 #55
I hate to be the one to break this to you, SheilaT Feb 2013 #68
During the herding group judging at this year's Westminster Dog Show LibertyLover Feb 2013 #73
It takes "herding cats" to a whole new level. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #12
Wonderful story. K&R :) n/t OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #14
Du rec. Nt xchrom Feb 2013 #15
Dogeetah! I had hoped this was a genetic experiment. aikoaiko Feb 2013 #16
They already bred a cheetah with a velcro. Fuddnik Feb 2013 #32
That's a cheesy joke. tclambert Feb 2013 #42
So sweet! forestpath Feb 2013 #17
Saw this on "Nature" on PBS geardaddy Feb 2013 #18
In the article, the author mentions something interesting... a la izquierda Feb 2013 #20
Amazing...knr! joeybee12 Feb 2013 #21
Very cool! obamanut2012 Feb 2013 #23
Wonderful story. hamsterjill Feb 2013 #26
I remember watching "Nature" and one show said that... Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2013 #30
That is not an Anatolian Shepherd. That is an Akbash. Same country, kaiden Feb 2013 #34
The Right Wingers said it would come to this. nolabear Feb 2013 #35
Dogs and cats laying together. OnyxCollie Feb 2013 #63
Thanks... ReRe Feb 2013 #38
Rick Santorum's nightmare! tclambert Feb 2013 #43
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2013 #44
That is so cool. Cheetahs must have been domesticated for a couple centuries in our pre history Sunlei Feb 2013 #46
K&R G_j Feb 2013 #48
Look at that cheetah. narnian60 Feb 2013 #51
This is such a great story nadine_mn Feb 2013 #52
In Nairobi, they will often raise the big cat kittens together JCMach1 Feb 2013 #57
cheetash seem to be either lying on their sides or running super fast, no in between Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #70
they are quite sweet JCMach1 Feb 2013 #72
Years ago I was visiting a friend in Florida LibertyLover Feb 2013 #74
It takes a virile dog to get a cheetah pregnant? Heywood J Feb 2013 #58
What a cool story PatSeg Feb 2013 #69
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
66. Worse yet, a dog will like his own
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:27 PM
Feb 2013

ass (usually with great enthusiasm) and then want to lick your mouth. Ewww.

Any wonder I prefer cats?

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
62. The Anatolian Shepherd is a guard dog, and the job is to attack and kill bears
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 02:43 PM
Feb 2013

and wolves that prey on the sheep or animals that they guard. That is what they were, and are, bred for. If you had ever seen an Anatolian in full-on battle mode, you might have a feel for what would could happen to that Cheetah.

barbtries

(31,307 posts)
61. me too
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 02:22 PM
Feb 2013

i haven't seen it in years i may have to gank that graphic so i can look at it whenever i feel like it

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
50. Ah, but Ceiling Cat never sleeps and knows everything you do, it's rumored.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:47 PM
Feb 2013

Thanks for the Just kidding. Tough Room...



 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
24. Someone forgot to send the memo to the pomeranians.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:06 PM
Feb 2013

They're "cat police" like no other dogs I've ever seen lol.

Ours break up fights on the rare occasion our cats fight, and "cuss them out" whenever they get up on the counters.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
45. It truly is.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:26 PM
Feb 2013

You wouldn't think that these little loveable furballs would have such courage, but they really do.

Most of the cats are bigger than they are lol.

And they even make the eskies wait their turn to eat. The eskies are 35ish pounds, and the pommies are like...3 pounds lol.

Makes me chuckle every time.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
67. We used to have a cat that would swear at us.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:31 PM
Feb 2013

It was just so obvious, in context, that if we could somehow have translated the sounds, it would have been quite graphically not fit for young ears.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
3. When the cheetahs
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:29 PM
Feb 2013

are walked out, during the information/education part, the dog is right there walking along. It is a pretty amazing site.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
29. Back in the early 1980's, there was a zookeeper at Brookfield Zoo
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:23 PM
Feb 2013

Outside of Chicago that had a cheetah as his special pet. He would let people come into a small outdoor enclosure and pet the cheetah, who was a totally sweet and loveable fellow. I have never forgotten the moments I spent with that cheetah.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
10. I have owned dogs that were of this type and they are selfless protectors.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 04:48 PM
Feb 2013

Really good to see these two and the other animals doing well. A really nice story for today. Thanks for posting it.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
19. I have a friend with a border collie & 2 Australian shephards
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:54 PM
Feb 2013

They moved to the "boonies" and one day she heard a lot of barking & feared a coyote might be challenging their dogs (even though she had never seen any loitering around)..

she opened the slider and saw that they had "herded" 4 wild burros into her yard, and were actually thinking about "bringing them inside"...

she called animal control and only then found out that their property backed up to a wild burro "preserve"..

They had to build a very tall privacy fence so the dogs could not see the burros...apparently two had jumped the fence and one had dug under to get to the burros..

The dogs could not resist the opportunity to do their "job"..

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
25. Yes, I have some stories I could tell but don't have the time. Thanks for that one.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:07 PM
Feb 2013

They most definitely would have gone to protect those burros, you bet.

SharonAnn

(14,172 posts)
55. A friend has a border collie who always tries to keep the guests "herded" together.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:53 PM
Feb 2013

When we go from cocktails into dinner he goes crazy, running around until we all sit down. Then, when we get up after dinner, he really goes nuts when some of us clear the table, others wash dishes, and others get out the coffee and liqueurs.

His "herd" is not together! Then, when we sit down together, he relaxes a bit.

He just can't help herding.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
68. I hate to be the one to break this to you,
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 04:33 PM
Feb 2013

but the odds are high that your guests really do not enjoy this behavior.

It would be thoughtful to your guests to have the dog in another room when you have humans visiting.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
73. During the herding group judging at this year's Westminster Dog Show
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:47 PM
Feb 2013

the border collie was introduced. The commentator mentioned that the dog lived on a 200 acre farm in California and that he had his own sheep for herding. I looked at my 2 greyhounds and whippet sacked out on the couch and decided I wouldn't need to get them a sheep.

aikoaiko

(34,214 posts)
16. Dogeetah! I had hoped this was a genetic experiment.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 05:42 PM
Feb 2013

But the reality is a much better story.

a la izquierda

(12,336 posts)
20. In the article, the author mentions something interesting...
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:00 PM
Feb 2013

that I'd heard just last night. There are organizations that bring Anatolian Shepherds to Kenya for farmers. The shepherds protect the herds, and then farmers don't feel the need to shoot cheetahs that might've threatened the herds I. The past.

Neat stuff, thanks for posting

hamsterjill

(17,576 posts)
26. Wonderful story.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:19 PM
Feb 2013

Nature can co-exist, and celebrate strengths in assisting other weaknesses. Too bad mankind seems to continually refuse to do that.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
30. I remember watching "Nature" and one show said that...
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:28 PM
Feb 2013

Cheetahs had more in common, DNA common that is, to Dogs more than other cats. Could that be part of why the get along?

kaiden

(1,314 posts)
34. That is not an Anatolian Shepherd. That is an Akbash. Same country,
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 06:40 PM
Feb 2013

same job, different breed altogether.

Nice story, though.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
63. Dogs and cats laying together.
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 03:19 PM
Feb 2013

It was prophesied in the Bible.

Atticus, Chapter 11, Section 8, Paragraph (3)(f), second footnote (King James version.)

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
46. That is so cool. Cheetahs must have been domesticated for a couple centuries in our pre history
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 07:28 PM
Feb 2013

Then the domestic breeding made them more docile towards other species (able to live with humans,the domestic dog) Still having the ability to go back to a fully wild cat they retained the breeding genetics and that change to their temperament.

narnian60

(3,510 posts)
51. Look at that cheetah.
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 09:59 PM
Feb 2013

I am so awed by the beauty of animals. Of course, I am loving that gorgeous dog, too.

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
52. This is such a great story
Wed Feb 13, 2013, 10:40 PM
Feb 2013

I knew cheetahs had breeding issues but I had no idea that they were really so fragile compared to the other big cats. Dogs make everything better so I can see how this works. We have 2 rescue dogs and a rescue cat (at one point having 4 rescue dogs, but the older two have since crossed over) and our cat totally owns them. He sleeps on their beds, eats out of their dishes, and plays with them. I love watching them interact - the dogs love him so much and sleep with him and watch over him.

JCMach1

(29,201 posts)
57. In Nairobi, they will often raise the big cat kittens together
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:39 AM
Feb 2013

There are many orphan cheetahs I am afraid...

I knew someone in the Kenya Wildlife Service, so got to meet some of these beautiful creatures up close and personal... they actually purr like house cats and can be domesticated relatively easily (unlike lions and leopards).



LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
74. Years ago I was visiting a friend in Florida
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:55 PM
Feb 2013

She knew someone who had a tiger cub, a lioness and 2 mountain lions. The husband and wife were quasi-professional magicians and used the lioness and tiger cub in their stage act. The mountain lions were basically for commercials. Anyway we went over to their house and played with the tiger cub, who, come to think of it, had a golden retriever for a companion, and then went into the cage to pet the lioness. She was only 350 pounds, not quite fully grown, and very friendly. Let me tell you - could she purr. There were 3 of us petting her at the same time and she was purring and you could feel her whole body pulse with it.

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