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Elizabeth Warren Embarrasses Hapless Bank Regulators At First Hearing (VIDEO)Ryan Grim - HufPo
Posted: 02/14/2013 5:14 pm EST | Updated: 02/14/2013 5:35 pm EST
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WASHINGTON -- Bank regulators got a sense Thursday of how their lives will be slightly different now that Elizabeth Warren sits on a Senate committee overseeing their agencies. At her first Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Committee hearing, Warren questioned top regulators from the alphabet soup that is the nation's financial regulatory structure: the FDIC, SEC, OCC, CFPB, CFTC, Fed and Treasury.
The Democratic senator from Massachusetts had a straightforward question for them: When was the last time you took a Wall Street bank to trial? It was a harder question than it seemed.
"I appreciate that you say you don't have to bring them to trial. My question is, when did you bring them to trial?" she responded.
"We have not had to do it as a practical matter to achieve our supervisory goals," Curry offered.
Warner turned to Elisse Walter, chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission, who said that the agency weighs how much it can extract from a bank without taking it to court against the cost of going to trial.
"I appreciate that. That's what everybody does," said Warren, a former Harvard law professor. "Can you identify the last time when you took the Wall Street banks to trial?"
"I will have to get back to you with specific information," Walter said as the audience tittered.
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More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/14/elizabeth-warren-bank-regulators_n_2688998.html
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OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)Good for her!
We need more legislators like Warren!
colbertforpresident
(241 posts)yes we do need more like her.
freckleface
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likesmountains 52
(4,108 posts)all facing the cameras. Is there some kind of bottled water supplier was going on?
RC
(25,592 posts)They have people that are paid to get heartburn over the least little thing out of place. That is why the water bottles are lined up that way.
Larry Ogg
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We now return you to our regularly scheduled program of Diss the Senate.
Who would have ever noticed...
LonePirate
(13,503 posts)At least she is wasting no time putting those agencies on notice. Almost makes me wish I lived in MA so I could vote for her.
think
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Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)sheshe2
(84,574 posts)My Senator from Mass. Go Senator Warren!
Thank you, WillyT
napi21
(45,806 posts)I think we all knew Liz was going to retain her independant, tough, and fearless demeanor after she got to Washigton, as most of the MEN do not! Hooray for Liz! May she serve a vey very long position in theSenate!
CTyankee
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Left Coast2020
(2,397 posts)Get the crooks, listen to the testimony, get them deposed, and then bring charges--all in a short period of time--so to speak.
In other words, she needs a touchdown against the scumbags who brought this economy to its knees. I use Chip Kelly as example because thats was his MO: score quickly and often.
Liberal_Dog
(11,075 posts)K & R.
whatchamacallit
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R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)I think I'm going to have to donate. She's awesome.
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Watching this video earlier today I could not help but fall in love all over again with Elizabeth Warren. The elegant way she came across in making her point, I thought was so remarkable and classy. We couldn't hope for a better contrast than Senator Warren and Senator Cruz.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)At first, I thought was an ambitious hot dog. Now I KNOW that he's a vicious rabid cur dog. How would you like to do business with this man?
Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)Just repeat after me "Texas Bluification", "Texas Bluification", "Texas Bluification"... #Itgetsbluer
trublu992
(489 posts)she needs to be in the House as well as a regulator in the SEC and adviser to Pres That's all
Chalco
(1,319 posts)Berlum
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joeunderdog
(2,563 posts)WOW. Wall St. has a new Public Enemy#1.
She talks like us, not a politician. She's fucking incredible.
meow2u3
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TeamPooka
(24,484 posts)dhill926
(16,502 posts)K & R....
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)Someone with some spine!
Hotler
(11,618 posts)President Obama called Eric Holder into his office and said "I don't care if you have to arrest the CEO's on Wall St. for jaywalking, you get them before a grand jury. " Things would be today. Instead we got the President going on Sixty Minutes and saying Wall St. did nothing illegal.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)And most of his staff and cabinet come from Wall Street.
And Dimon and Blankfein are regulars at the White House.
And...
bvar22
(39,909 posts)He said they are entitled to their obscene bonuses!
"We can't begrudge them their wealth."
"They are just savvy businessmen."
"Its the Free market."
"Look at all the baseball players."
--- President Obama defending the Wall Street Bonuses
frylock
(34,825 posts)what a stupid remark. thank you for treating us like idiots, mr. Harvard law man sir.
Rider3
(919 posts)So admired! Proud to have voted for her!
forestpath
(3,102 posts)dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)Great to see she's giving them a little hell.
joeunderdog
(2,563 posts)Yeah, I'm sure a homeless, penniless victim of banks who institutionally BREAK banking LAWS loves to hear that this is called a "deficiency." Sick.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)You do now, you asshole.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)MannyGoldstein
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Euphoria
(448 posts)...around.
President Obama is now, maybe/sometimes, channeling Senator Warren!
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Sorry, too dry!
Larry Ogg
(1,474 posts)Obama's idol worshipers, might take you seriously.
Euphoria
(448 posts)because you, Manny, pretty much always get it right.
Dry martini anyone?
KansDem
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Euphoria
(448 posts)and I don't do any flavored martinis. But hey, that blue martini looks a lot like Obama-blue, so maybe I'll consider.
mountain grammy
(26,799 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)was head of the CFPB.
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Warren ousted Republican Sen. Scott Brown in November in a hard-fought campaign. She was President Barack Obama's first pick in 2011 to head up the government's newly established Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, an entity the former Harvard University law professor and attorney helped create. But Republicans in Washington essentially killed her nomination, citing her record of taking on big banks and Wall Street. That opposition helped boost Warren's reputation and led Democrats nationwide to embrace her decision to run for U.S. Senate.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/elizabeth-warren-grills-banking-regulators-first-hearing-161535327--politics.html
Things worked out great. She is in the right role at the right time.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)that it was Obama's plan that she end up in the Senate Banking Committee, channeling him.
dorksied
(348 posts)abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)onestepforward
(3,691 posts)mountain grammy
(26,799 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Will she run for President?
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)this country is irredeemable. Could we have 99 more Senators just like her, please?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)as compared to the Blue Dogs. I know she got a lot of financial help from outside the Party from groups like moveon, PCCC, DFA, etc.
My point is, I would be surprised if the DSCC is particularly interested in cloning Sen Warren.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)be the DSCC's/DNC's pick for a presidential candidate. You'll hear time and again how she's "unelectable." If/When she runs it will have to be a grassroots candidacy. But I'm convinced she could win. Not only the nomination but the presidency. She's just too common sense and speaks "regular folks." She's the real thing and I think that comes across, and not just to Democrats. I think she'd bring in people that don't normally vote. I think she could bring in moderate Republicans.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)The elite overlords would definitely not allow it. I dont believe she would be where she is without help from outside the party structure.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)it was better for a bank to fold rather than go to trial. Cynical is the word that comes to mind along with greedy, of course.
So wonderful to see this video on the same day Ted Kennedy's rant on increasing the minimum wage was resurrected. Some great folks have come out of Massachusetts.
Huge K&R
NYT - DealB%k
By JESSICA SILVER-GREENBERG and BEN PROTESS
February 12, 2013
Washington is seeking help from an unlikely group in its effort to distribute billions of dollars to struggling homeowners in foreclosure: the same banks accused of abusing homeowners with shoddy foreclosure practices.
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My recommendation for new banking regulators:
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BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Finally we have a Senator who isn't afraid to ask the most basic questions.
And what isn't clear from that clip is that settlements are paid by the institutions, and they are basically pocket change.
Trials can include felony charges with the real possibility of jail time for the people who committed these crimes. For these assholes to brush that off is really astounding.
GiveMeFreedom
(976 posts)And what isn't clear from that clip is that settlements are paid by the institutions, and they are basically pocket change.
Pardon me, not to interrupt, but they are also using the money they stole to pay us back with.
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I think that completes the equation.
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Thanks for the post.
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hay rick
(7,807 posts)Well done. Elizabeth Warren prefaces her question by suggesting that if a big bank expects that the penalty for bad behavior will be a consent decree and a fine that can be paid from a portion of the proceeds from their bad behavior- then they will have very little incentive to refrain from bad behavior. She states the obvious, but that makes the follow up question (when was the last time you took a big bank to TRIAL?) devastating when the answer is "never" or "don't know."
I thought it was hilarious that Curry, from OCC, was the first one to speak up and the first one to fall on the punji sticks. A discussion of his agency's handling of the recent Independent Foreclosure Review here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12525602
Yves Smith weighs in on the settlement here: http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2013/02/occ-compounds-botched-foreclosure-review-process-with-barmy-plan-for-distributing-peanuts.html
Warren rightly points out that if a party (any government regulatory agency, for example) is unwilling to go to trial, they have reduced leverage in negotiations. The recent OCC settlement is a poster child for this phenomenon. Here's what Smith has to say about the OCC's pretense that the settlement they got was good for homeowners:
495,000 complaint letters were filed. The estimates of serious harm from the whistleblowers at the Bank of America site in Tampa Bay ranged from 10% to 80%. The average was 33%, and the estimates also clustered around 30% to 40%. So well use 30%...
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You get $18.75 billion. Lets say maybe the temps were too generous and their estimate is 1/3 too high. You still get $12.5 billion, nearly four times the amount for the banks to divvy up. And youd have some less large payouts for the people not seriously harmed. If you would have qualified for a mod but the bank never processed your application, or were denied a mod incorrectly, thats a $15,000 award. The folks who were processing mod complaints say they saw another 30% to 40% instances of less serious harm. So if you assume a $15,000 payout for another 20% (thats conservative, the real number is probably closer to 30%), you get another $1.5 billion.
$14 billion, which is a conservative estimate of what the banks should have been required to cough up, is more than four times the only part that the OCC got that really matters, hard dollar payments to borrowers that suffered real losses. No wonder the banks are perfectly happy to pay out $2 billion to consultants who made a mess of things. Those madcap consultant were as clever as foxes.
But hey, one quarter of a fair settlement is better than no settlement at all. Elizabeth draws the obvious conclusion- we need to make an example of someone or we will never get fair settlement agreements or discourage banks from engaging in bad behavior.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Brava!
caledesi
(11,903 posts)progressoid
(50,143 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)That just seems wrong to me."
BAM! Warren kicks it up a notch!
R&
MissMarple
(9,656 posts)Too big to fail has become too big for trial.
Robin Hood moment, most truely so.
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JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Finally.
burrowowl
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johnnyreb
(915 posts)Was *any* of this on cable news? (Probably take too much time away from the cruise ship story.)
juajen
(8,515 posts)weariest day. Beautiful, exhilarating and brave. Hooray for Hillary and Elizabeth! Long may they wave!
Larry Ogg
(1,474 posts)Elizabeth Warren doesn't act, or talk like a conservative, and has never been a Republican that calls herself a Democrat.
But yes... Hooray for Elizabeth!
Hulk
(6,699 posts)Let's expose these white collar criminals for what they really are. Good for you, Senator Warner!!
snort
(2,334 posts)WOW!
As one of many who had the TBTF fuck me over, this makes me really happy.
She is fantastic!
Scuba
(53,475 posts)EastKYLiberal
(429 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)tclambert
(11,089 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)malaise
(270,947 posts)She tore them a new one
reformist2
(9,841 posts)malthaussen
(17,320 posts)Ya know, I just love somebody who asks a simple question and doesn't accept weasel words as an answer. Wish a few of our media pundits would do this once in awhile.
Of course, Warren doesn't have to worry about having her access pulled.
-- Mal
cate94
(2,839 posts)Nail on the head with her last statement:
"I'm concerned that too big to fail has become too big for trial. That just seems wrong to me."
horseshoecrab
(944 posts)Elizabeth Warren is simply incredible and she is on our side for sure!!!
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MrYikes
(720 posts)I am off to write to my senator asking that he befriend Warren and become a warrior himself on any topic of his choosing.
hamsterjill
(15,246 posts)I love how she keeps her cool, and yet just keeps plugging at them!
Thank you, Elizabeth, for being brave enough to stand up for ordinary citizens!
DFW
(54,943 posts)Which said "NEVER" louder than any direct admission ever could.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Raffi Ella
(4,465 posts)Thank You, Senator Warren!
bvar22
(39,909 posts)...but it is really sad that this is so remarkable.
This should be the NORM,
not the EXCEPTION.
I wish I could see this,
and say (yawn)"Just another Democrat doing their job."
You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their rhetoric, promises, or excuses.
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Blue Owl
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Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)she helped to create. But she ran for Senate and now has even more power.
MirrorAshes
(1,262 posts)Teddy's seat is once again filled with the heart and tenacity of a Lion.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Prism
(5,815 posts)If there has been a clearer illustration of what's wrong with the regulators' relationship with corporations, I've not seen it.
She nailed them to the wall, and it only took her four minutes to do it.
frylock
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Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)lexw
(804 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)I hope she doesn't have any skeletons in her closet. If she goes after bankers like this; we will hear about every thing that she has ever done that could even be perceived as wrong.
I hope she gets some support on this from other senators.
RT_Fanatic
(225 posts)We in Pennsylvania wish with all our hearts that we had a senator like her.
One thing I noted was that the Wall Streeters never answered her questions. Is it possible to "embarrass" people who have no shame?
chase48
(41 posts)I and a lot of Oklahomans supported Senator Warren with our monies, I feel so proud that we Oklahomans helped her to that senate seat, I stayed up just to witness some teeth in that senate being Elizabeth! All those wall street CEO's are guilty of the felony fraud, they are all thieves and should be in a federal pen for tanking our economy, but fraud didn't start with those crooks, it began with the real estate Associate that started those NINJA real estate sales, no job, no income, no assets mortgages, he got a commission, passed on to his Realtor who approved the fraud so he got a commission, sold to Goldman Sachs that got those crappy loans rated AAA, they both committed fraud, then bundled them and then tanked AIG buying negative insurance, betting they would fail, all those banks made a ton of fraudulent profits, sold them to credit unions and investors all over the world, knowing they were toxic and would fail and did fail, cashed in their credit defaults swaps,(insurance policy's) when home owners defaulted when they could not pay their ARM mortgages(adjustable rate mortgages), those banks knew those mortgages were toxic and knew home owners would default, that is about the same as premeditated murder, so senator Warren is saying , these guys are guilty of felony crimes, why are they not being prosecuted? I would like my president to ask the same question, and I believe all those commissions should be returned to the victim, the home owners, just sayin!
Owl
(3,657 posts)Wow, that was awesome!
Brother Buzz
(36,600 posts)Glad I wasn't on Carnival Triumph, don't live in Russia and wasn't being asked questions today by Elizabeth Warren. TGIF!!
upi402
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truedelphi
(32,324 posts)It's nice that one junior Senator is asking questions. But what is most important is that in our country, our electoral system gives us a choice between two people, both of whom are for the Big Financial Firms. The appointments the winner of that debacle makes are what the game is all about. Like the "Onion" reported the other day, the remaining 47 members of the Middle Class were all very happy to hear Obama's pronouncements of going to bat for them during his SOTU. I almsot laughed but it's not funny - there are around 47 members of the Middle Class left standing.
Obama could be appointing people like Neil Barofsky to head the Treasury or SEC. He could be appointing people like Sheila Bair. Or for that matter, Mr Sandy Weill (As long as Sandy keeps to his ideas about breaking the banks up.)
Instead we have had four years of Tim Geithner, and now we get Jack Lew. Right now the USA is a nation wherein for every dollar of profit generated in the country, some 47 cents are going to the coffers of the world's largest banks and financial firms.
In our parents' generation, this was something like 8 to 9 cents out of every dollar of profit.
And the whole system is one giant Ponzi scheme. Plus the system is suffering with the afflictions that the Mafia used to utilize ramped up a 1,000 notches. I remember my dad grumbling abut the poor saps in Chicago who borrowed money from Guido, for 150% interest per year. Now some fifty years later, and we all are hearing that the Big Banks are lending money out to the community on Main Street once again. But what they mean by that is an individual can go into ta PayDay loan firm and get a loan for which they will be required to pay some 900% interest!!!