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midnight

(26,624 posts)
Thu Feb 14, 2013, 11:53 PM Feb 2013

The Postal Service is a public service for We, the People, not a business.

Manufacturing A Crisis

So Republicans have hamstrung the Postal Service, forcing it into "crisis" and are now "solving" the crisis by working towards dismantling and privatizing it. Here is how it works:

Require the Postal Service to "break even." (Again: the Department of Defense is not required to break even.
Require them to serve all areas of the country. (Which is a service to democracy and should continue.)
Keep them from raising or lowering rates as needed.
Keep them from using their competitive advantages to compete with private businesses.
Require them to pre-fund 75 years of health benefits.
When the Postal Service has the inevitable resulting financial "crisis" complain about government and unions and demand their buildings be sold, employees laid off and the service be dismantled and given to private companies.
If you don't see the pattern yet, try this:

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/279-82/16027-why-you-should-be-outraged-by-what-is-being-done-to-our-postal-service

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The Postal Service is a public service for We, the People, not a business. (Original Post) midnight Feb 2013 OP
K&R nt abelenkpe Feb 2013 #1
Right. Sick elleng Feb 2013 #2
It's a government SERVICE Canuckistanian Feb 2013 #3
Congress members? The Senate? n/t Isoldeblue Feb 2013 #6
They don't take in money Canuckistanian Feb 2013 #7
I think the members take in plenty Isoldeblue Feb 2013 #9
Well, the US Mint takes in more money than it spends Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #8
... and is vital to such functions of gov't as delivery of tax forms, SS, etc. eppur_se_muova Feb 2013 #10
actually, it is. since 1970. HiPointDem Feb 2013 #14
Richie Rich and his pug friends are stealing us further into blindness. lonestarnot Feb 2013 #4
Congress needs to reminded of the same Isoldeblue Feb 2013 #5
What Is It? gussmith Feb 2013 #11
k+r! TeamPooka Feb 2013 #12
The austerity agenda that would cut services for working Americans in order to maintain tax breaks f midnight Feb 2013 #13
+1. It's frightening what is happening. And more frightening that most people don't seem to HiPointDem Feb 2013 #15
Some interesting facts about the USPS. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #16
The graph showing employees going down, but mail volume going up is the same old same old... midnight Feb 2013 #18
Exactly. Another interesting bit was that the all time highest volume of mail was in 2006, Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #20
Republicans licking their chops in glee at the prospects of the USPS being indepat Feb 2013 #17
What can people who never or rarely use the USPS do to help? Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #19

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
3. It's a government SERVICE
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:04 AM
Feb 2013

It's NOT required to be a profit-making enterprise.

Name ONE other government department that takes in more money than it spends.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
9. I think the members take in plenty
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:08 AM
Feb 2013

with insider trading tips and who knows what-all. But you're right - they are a pure expense, who are barely earning a dime of what we pay them. We sure aren't getting our money's worth from them.

It makes me ill that we have no recourse against them, except to vote. But w/gerrymandering, even that doesn't count for much. It's too fucking depressing.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
8. Well, the US Mint takes in more money than it spends
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:48 AM
Feb 2013

The Mint calls it "seigniorage".

But yeah, the Post Office is supposed to be a public service, not a money-making corporation.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
10. ... and is vital to such functions of gov't as delivery of tax forms, SS, etc.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:11 AM
Feb 2013

There is a REASON the Founders included the PO in the Constitution -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_Clause

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
5. Congress needs to reminded of the same
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 12:38 AM
Feb 2013

I'd like to see who in congress has stock or a vested interest in UPS, DPI or Fed-Express.

I wish we could curtail or remove the pensions and benefits from our elected officials, as easily as they can to things like the USPS.

We need to take some of their power away!!

 

gussmith

(280 posts)
11. What Is It?
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 01:37 AM
Feb 2013

I hear often that the U.S. Postal Service is not a federal agency. What are they saying...it is not literally the Dept. of Postal Service? Sound to me like Congress has a hand in it AND ,it is losing money, scads of money, billions per quarter. The workers get a better wage grade that Civil Service, they get subsidized health insurance and they retire with a pension directed by Uncle Sam.

A lot is wrong with the postal service, a lot helps rural America. Like every other business, or service, it should survive an update or fail on lack of merit. Bring it on.








midnight

(26,624 posts)
13. The austerity agenda that would cut services for working Americans in order to maintain tax breaks f
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:29 AM
Feb 2013

for the wealthy - and promote the privatization of public services - has many faces.
Most Americans recognize the threats to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid as pieces of the austerity plan advanced by House Budget Committee chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI), and the rest of the Ayn Rand-reading wrecking crew that has taken over the Republican Party. But it is important to recognize that the austerity agenda extends in every direction: from threats to Food Stamps and Pell Grants, to education cuts, to the squeezing of transportation funding.

But the current frontline of the austerity agenda is the assault on the US Postal Service, a vital public service that is older than the country. And it is advancing rapidly. --John Nichols

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
15. +1. It's frightening what is happening. And more frightening that most people don't seem to
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 05:36 AM
Feb 2013

realize it, or realize the implications for the majority of the population.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
16. Some interesting facts about the USPS.
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 07:23 AM
Feb 2013


The only real problems the USPS has are Congress and gross mismanagement.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
18. The graph showing employees going down, but mail volume going up is the same old same old...
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:37 PM
Feb 2013

Workers having to do more with less...

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
20. Exactly. Another interesting bit was that the all time highest volume of mail was in 2006,
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 04:56 PM
Feb 2013

the year the ridiculous pension funding mandate was passed.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
17. Republicans licking their chops in glee at the prospects of the USPS being
Fri Feb 15, 2013, 02:17 PM
Feb 2013

parceled out among FEDEX, UPS, et al: perfect example of the workings of a corporatist government pissing on we the people for egregious corporate gain.

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