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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:51 PM Feb 2013

landlord whipped tenant's bare bottom with belt over late rent

Ron Kronenberger, Ohio landlord, whipped tenant for falling behind on rent, police say

(CBS/AP) WAYNESVILLE, Ohio - An Ohio landlord is accused of whipping a tenant with a belt on his bare buttocks for falling behind on his rent.

Police in the village of Waynesville say 53-year-old Ron Kronenberger is charged with assault for the Jan. 22 encounter in his office. He was due in court Thursday in Warren County.

Police say Kronenberger told the 29-year-old tenant that if he was going to act like a child, he would treat him like one. He then allegedly hit him four times with a belt, leaving small marks.

Police say the tenant told them he was scared and just wanted to get it over with.

The Dayton Daily News reports Kronenberger is a former chamber of commerce president. His home phone wasn't taking messages Thursday.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57570542-504083/ron-kronenberger-ohio-landlord-whipped-tenant-for-falling-behind-on-rent-police-say/

more info:

The Dayton Daily News reported that Kronenberger, who owns Hometown Market in town, is a former chamber of commerce president who was voted in 2006 as Waynesville's Citizen of the Year.

Residents in the small community of 2,800 were shocked by the arrest of the prominent local businessman, but some told ABC22 that they can understand his frustration with the insolvent tenant.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282426/Ron-Kronenberger-Landlord-charged-whipping-naughty-tenant-BELT-naked-buttocks-falling-rent.html#ixzz2La6BnqMK
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landlord whipped tenant's bare bottom with belt over late rent (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 OP
Oh for God's sake cabot Feb 2013 #1
Sounds like a perv. catbyte Feb 2013 #2
Now who's the landlord Politicalboi Feb 2013 #3
That's near Dayton, naturally Dirty Socialist Feb 2013 #4
Who submits to that? Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #5
someone who owes $2800 in back rent. probably afraid if eviction. Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #8
Would you? Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #12
Someone who is afraid. nt msanthrope Feb 2013 #22
How very, very sad. Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #23
W.T.F In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #35
Hey there! Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #36
my two cents In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #38
Kinky. Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #6
Meet Ohio's next rising repuke star KamaAina Feb 2013 #7
"former chamber of commerce president" Baitball Blogger Feb 2013 #9
I forsee a transfer of deed and title of property in the near future... n/t Earth_First Feb 2013 #10
Sounds like he opened up a whole can of whup ass, don't it? 2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #33
They're both keeping it kinky.. Upton Feb 2013 #11
Come on... that's not assault, it's sexual assault alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #13
Ding ding we have a winner malaise Feb 2013 #14
Yep. Ask some of the women tenants if Ilsa Feb 2013 #15
Agree. Just because tenant is male doesn't make it less of sexual assault. Landlord should be idwiyo Feb 2013 #53
Uhhh... sibelian Feb 2013 #54
Uh, obviously many forms of sexual assault do not involve consent. That's what makes it assualt. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #55
What's it got to do with sex? sibelian Feb 2013 #62
I'm actually surprised that this happened in the US and not the UK slackmaster Feb 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Feb 2013 #17
OK. That is totally f-ed up. smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #18
bare bottom? how did the landlord get access to the tenant's bare bottom? HiPointDem Feb 2013 #19
That was my first question too MadrasT Feb 2013 #20
"Drop your pants or you'll be homeless" ?? gollygee Feb 2013 #24
Exactly what I was thinking! n/t LeftofObama Feb 2013 #56
According to the Daily Mail article (link in OP) : Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #58
This guy is a sexual predator IMO. n/t Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #21
The poor have always been the whipping post of the rich. It's geting literal again. freshwest Feb 2013 #25
"if he was going to act like a child, he would treat him like one" ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #26
That's what I took from it Renew Deal Feb 2013 #42
Nice catch. n/t Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #59
newspaper comments are usually useless NJCher Feb 2013 #27
More BULLSHIT from crack journalists SmileyRose Feb 2013 #28
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #29
yea lol sexual assault, funny stuff RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #30
How Exactly Did you Decide This was Sexual Assault? dballance Feb 2013 #60
WTF? You serious? AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #31
MIRT just made him GTFO DU. Thanks, MIRT! freshwest Feb 2013 #61
Hmmmmmmmmmm. sibelian Feb 2013 #32
Well, Tien1985 Feb 2013 #34
IMO ~The Landlord and Tenant need serious psychological counseling! In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #37
Exactly! Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #39
I Cannot Believe This!!! In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #40
We are living in very strange times.... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #43
sick. that's what it is !!! In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #44
People have been pushed to thir breaking points... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #45
no shit! In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #46
And fought the good fight Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #47
Lots of children needed me. In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #48
Your essence...and purpose. Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #49
is always pure . . . . In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #50
But of course... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #51
I don't understand what's wrong with this Renew Deal Feb 2013 #41
It's a fractal of our nationalistic worldview. CincyDem Feb 2013 #52
Fifty shades of failure to pay the rent FarCenter Feb 2013 #57

cabot

(724 posts)
1. Oh for God's sake
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:53 PM
Feb 2013

Seriously? People often leave me shaking my head in amazement re: their stupidity.

Dirty Socialist

(3,252 posts)
4. That's near Dayton, naturally
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:56 PM
Feb 2013

Waynesville is one of the most conservative towns there is. It's even a dry town.

Upton

(9,709 posts)
11. They're both keeping it kinky..
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:02 PM
Feb 2013

perhaps the tenant should have offered to let the landlord whip him a few more times for some free rent..

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
13. Come on... that's not assault, it's sexual assault
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:11 PM
Feb 2013

Please. What grown man wants to whip another grown man's bare ass in a non-sexual way?

I would be looking very closely at this dude for other crimes in the area.

Ilsa

(64,366 posts)
15. Yep. Ask some of the women tenants if
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:25 PM
Feb 2013

He promised to forgive their rent for sexual favors.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
53. Agree. Just because tenant is male doesn't make it less of sexual assault. Landlord should be
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:41 AM
Feb 2013

Convicted for sexual assault and out on registered sexual offenders list. Disgusting arsehole.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
54. Uhhh...
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:48 AM
Feb 2013

Wha...?

Hang on a minute here. Unless the pair of them have consented to a relationship in which one is permitted by the other to perform such acts... what's it go to do with sex?
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
55. Uh, obviously many forms of sexual assault do not involve consent. That's what makes it assualt.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:27 AM
Feb 2013

Your post makes no sense.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
62. What's it got to do with sex?
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:25 AM
Feb 2013

Can you answer the question for me please?

Where was the sex?

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
24. "Drop your pants or you'll be homeless" ??
Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:20 PM
Feb 2013

That would be my guess.

It was horrible behavior. Who would even think to do that?

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
58. According to the Daily Mail article (link in OP) :
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:40 PM
Feb 2013

"... he complied with Kronenberger’s demand to bend over, placing his hands on a chair."

As others have speculated, I imagine the timeline of this incident included a demand to drop the drawers.

EDIT: ...sentence structure...

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
25. The poor have always been the whipping post of the rich. It's geting literal again.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:44 AM
Feb 2013

Why would an adult man, unable to pay his rent, strip, bend over and submit to being beaten?

The younger man said he was scared. Knowing the older man was Citizen of the Year goes to show he felt he had no choice in that town.

Economical coercion and authoritarian thinking go together. Mr. CoC is very likely to get off with nothing but a 'hand slap.'

I wonder when we'll get to giving lashes to beggars. Damn, I hate these New Dark Ages.



ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
26. "if he was going to act like a child, he would treat him like one"
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:00 AM
Feb 2013

He beats children with belts?!

NJCher

(43,162 posts)
27. newspaper comments are usually useless
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:19 AM
Feb 2013

But when I saw this story at the NY Daily News and read the comment "They both have issues," I had to laugh.


Cher

SmileyRose

(4,854 posts)
28. More BULLSHIT from crack journalists
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:48 AM
Feb 2013
Incident report. Not one mention of bare butt.

This is weird enough. Amazing how many "news" organizations can't be bothered to get the incident report to verify factoids.

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
60. How Exactly Did you Decide This was Sexual Assault?
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 01:13 PM
Feb 2013

I didn't see anything in the OP or the two linked stories that indicated a sexual assault. Nothing that indicated any sort of sexual context to this at all.

Do you believe that when parents spank their children's bare bottoms, and some still do, that it's sexual assault?

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
32. Hmmmmmmmmmm.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:45 AM
Feb 2013

Hmmmmmmm.

Ahem ahem ahem - speculation

but... um... I wonder if there's more to the relationship between landlord and tenant than is detailed "in print". Cough, cough.

Tien1985

(923 posts)
34. Well,
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:24 AM
Feb 2013

SmileyRose linked to the incident report, it it doesn't say anything about skin contact, so something may be off here.

Renew Deal

(85,148 posts)
41. I don't understand what's wrong with this
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:33 AM
Feb 2013

If they lived in Saudi Arabia.

What a nut? And neighbors are "shocked." I bet his kids aren't "shocked."

CincyDem

(7,392 posts)
52. It's a fractal of our nationalistic worldview.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:39 AM
Feb 2013

This is the 1 on 1 version of Bushco opening a can of whupass on Iraq. I'm certainly not supporting defending or rationalizing the behavior with this comparison but at some point, the persistence of watching the country starts to shift the populations mindset.

It screws up the collective moral compass and it eventually starts showing its ugliness in ways like this. Many comment above have rightly said this, in principle, is nothing new. Absolutely right. What's new about it, however, is that the landlord is probably surprised that his F'ed up assertion of power over his tenant is seen as a bad thing.

I'm sure chit like this is happening in a lot of situations and there will be more. Bushco taught many people that extreme over reaction and preemptive strikes are all ok. In that world, it's the great American patriots that seem to believe it is their responsibility to teach us lessons we don't need over wrongs we have not committed by asserting power they should not have.

It's going to take a long time to rebuild big parts of our moral compass.
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