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HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:52 PM Feb 2013

The Onion apologizes

Posted on Facebook:

Dear Readers,

On behalf of The Onion, I offer my personal apology to Quvenzhané Wallis and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences for the tweet that was circulated last night during the Oscars. It was crude and offensive—not to mention inconsistent with The Onion’s commitment to parody and satire, however biting.

No person should be subjected to such a senseless, humorless comment masquerading as satire.

The tweet was taken down within an hour of publication. We have instituted new and tighter Twitter procedures to ensure that this kind of mistake does not occur again.

In addition, we are taking immediate steps to discipline those individuals responsible.

Miss Wallis, you are young and talented and deserve better. All of us at The Onion are deeply sorry.

Sincerely,

Steve Hannah
CEO
The Onion
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The Onion apologizes (Original Post) HarveyDarkey Feb 2013 OP
Uh, sorry Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #1
Why? demwing Feb 2013 #12
responsibility also rests with the person who set this shitstorm in motion SemperEadem Mar 2013 #109
What good would that do? Orrex Feb 2013 #13
i have the opposite attitude toward apologies Enrique Feb 2013 #15
The apology needs to come from both Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #17
How do you know the writer hasn't been fired already? AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #67
I don't, but hopefully he has, Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #93
because the ceo said SemperEadem Mar 2013 #110
That one may be scribbled on the back of a blank unemployment application Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #18
Likely the Writer is to busy packing his stuff up since he most probably got canned. Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author alp227 Feb 2013 #36
Lol, he didn't kill anyone. WTF is wrong with you? n-t Logical Feb 2013 #37
Actually, if I were QW's mama or agent I would make sure she never knew this happened... Hekate Feb 2013 #63
It was a fucking tweet, not a physical assault. nt Codeine Feb 2013 #100
it was verbal assault against a 9 yr old innocent CHILD SemperEadem Mar 2013 #111
I can see it now. "I want you to apologize before I fire you." Not sure the apology rhett o rick Feb 2013 #105
Good apology, not the usual, "if anyone was offended" crap. Laurian Feb 2013 #2
I agree HarveyDarkey Feb 2013 #21
Absolutely agree.... truebrit71 Feb 2013 #34
I think that's an excellent apology. Well done, Onion. Brickbat Feb 2013 #3
Yep, that's what a real apology looks like Taverner Feb 2013 #14
He was just kidding. kysrsoze Feb 2013 #20
clarification please. Who are you saying was "just kidding"? n/t BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #104
What did they tweet last night? JustAnotherGen Feb 2013 #4
Someone called Quvenzhané Wallis the "c" word. hedgehog Feb 2013 #9
They called a 9yr old girl the c word???! JaneyVee Feb 2013 #11
Yes, they did. n/t MicaelS Feb 2013 #22
WOW. Classy apology at least. It seems like any of the writers probably have access to their Twitter JaneyVee Feb 2013 #33
wwwwhat? ! Whisp Feb 2013 #30
Article about it ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #35
oooo. what the? Whisp Feb 2013 #48
I hadn't heard about this. How disgusting! October Feb 2013 #65
Wow.. was that ever evil Stupid. Cha Feb 2013 #95
Ouch! Yeah, that's pretty well over the top. nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #59
Anyone know the context of the tweet? JaneyVee Feb 2013 #5
They were trying to be ironic Taverner Feb 2013 #16
MAJOR Fail! JaneyVee Feb 2013 #31
If I didn't know any better, I would guess the writer was drunk Taverner Feb 2013 #96
Didn't see it, but apparently there was a musical number that pulled a word switch... JHB Feb 2013 #32
Which makes it surprising they apologised to the Academy as well muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #40
I think it's fine. Leave the Academy to do its own apologizing for thinking the bit was clever... JHB Feb 2013 #70
Very good apology. When I saw that 1st post I thought accidently gotten on Breitbart.com Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #6
That's what an apology sounds like! hedgehog Feb 2013 #7
Excellent. K&R n/t OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #8
i was sure they had been hacked ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #10
I appreciate this apology. That tweet was a horrible thing to say to a child, or to anyone for myrna minx Feb 2013 #19
I gotta say, this groveling is kind of funny to watch RZM Feb 2013 #23
It would be interesting to find out if they've ever apologized for anything before. HarveyDarkey Feb 2013 #25
I don't know. I'm not aware of them doing so RZM Feb 2013 #27
I've never heard of them doing so either nxylas Feb 2013 #62
I think the apology stems from it being a two-fer offense: intheflow Feb 2013 #44
I think you're right. It's a double whammy n/t RZM Feb 2013 #78
Now, where's McFarlane's apology for being generally unfunny and mean-spirited? n/t TroglodyteScholar Feb 2013 #24
Seth is an awesome progressive ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #29
Yep, he makes all of us look great, for sure. TroglodyteScholar Feb 2013 #98
I Bet Kate Winslet Cracked Up otohara Feb 2013 #101
Good apology...nt SidDithers Feb 2013 #26
But it's from the Onion Leslie Valley Feb 2013 #39
I know it isn't. The on-line edition two weeks after 9-11 is a good example. Gorp Feb 2013 #69
Bunk! Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #41
Read the thread; nobody fits your description. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #49
And? RZM Feb 2013 #81
I haven't seen it on DU Renew Deal Feb 2013 #77
Who's defending it? HarveyDarkey Feb 2013 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #50
It was vile. And it stood for an hour, until the complaints couldn't be ignored. WinkyDink Feb 2013 #42
It probably stood for an hour before it reached the CEO intheflow Feb 2013 #45
The responses on The Onion's fb page are bizarre. intheflow Feb 2013 #46
I thought it was funny. FreeBC Feb 2013 #51
haha. it was just a joke. cali Feb 2013 #52
yes, if done well. FreeBC Feb 2013 #66
I read the link. I didn't find an example of anyone calling a woman morningfog Feb 2013 #71
It was a "gas chamber" joke oberliner Feb 2013 #97
In this case it's a REAL 9-year old girl who is by all accounts a sweetheart ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #54
that's the point FreeBC Feb 2013 #57
Is it then funny if I state "you have a great sense of humor..."? LanternWaste Feb 2013 #103
you are a sick puppy. Whisp Feb 2013 #108
it takes a certain kind of a mind SemperEadem Mar 2013 #112
9 or 99 it makes me shudder at the crudity of modern society aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2013 #72
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #56
My mom just passed away last month. FreeBC Feb 2013 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #60
Post removed Post removed Feb 2013 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Feb 2013 #64
I am your humble admirer! SemperEadem Mar 2013 #114
well played SemperEadem Mar 2013 #113
The jury results aren't back yet LadyHawkAZ Feb 2013 #84
The Onion engages in satire.... the tweet was not satire. LanternWaste Feb 2013 #102
meh, just silliness all round quinnox Feb 2013 #53
Nobody claims it's the end of the world or sufrommich Feb 2013 #73
the reason I mentioned it quinnox Feb 2013 #74
The 1st amendment only applies if the government sufrommich Feb 2013 #75
I disagree quinnox Feb 2013 #76
It's still not a first amendment issue. Ironically sufrommich Feb 2013 #79
If he was doing it as part of his job, then that is different quinnox Feb 2013 #82
How about the guy who slapped the African American exboyfil Feb 2013 #107
I wouldn't be surprised if the onion is an "at will" employer SemperEadem Mar 2013 #116
The first amendment doesn't protect employment madville Feb 2013 #80
sure, but that sounds like it could result in a very juicy lawsuit quinnox Feb 2013 #83
no, but for using company media accounts to express their salacious opinions, yes they can. SemperEadem Mar 2013 #117
What does the first amendment have to do with anything being discussed? nt. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #85
maybe you missed the post quinnox Feb 2013 #86
I didn't miss the post, and the question still stands. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #87
so, what penalties do you think this person should face? quinnox Feb 2013 #88
Why would he face jail time, a misdemeanor, or anything like that? NCTraveler Feb 2013 #90
tell me what you think the first amendment means quinnox Feb 2013 #91
At this point I am confident you aren't being serious. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2013 #92
ok, but I will continue to bring up the first amendment when I feel like it quinnox Feb 2013 #94
the first amendment SemperEadem Mar 2013 #115
Hey, tweeter, leave the kids alone! yurbud Feb 2013 #55
Dear Repubs SCVDem Feb 2013 #68
Fuck you Steve Hannah Crabby Appleton Feb 2013 #89
That tweet was monumentally stupid. jsr Feb 2013 #99
No surprise. LWolf Feb 2013 #106
I know I'm late to the party but K&R Number23 Mar 2013 #118
 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
12. Why?
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:07 PM
Feb 2013

Responsibility ultimately rests at the top, and this was a sincere effort by the Onion to right a wrong for which they were responsible.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
109. responsibility also rests with the person who set this shitstorm in motion
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:01 PM
Mar 2013

why should he be protected by anonymity?

If he's grown enough to do it, then he's grown enough to take his asswhippin' for it.

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
13. What good would that do?
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:07 PM
Feb 2013

I'd rather have a buck-stops-here apology from someone higher up the chain than from some asshole who clearly has no sense of what constitutes acceptable communication.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
15. i have the opposite attitude toward apologies
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:08 PM
Feb 2013

if the low-level tweeter had apologized, i might have said "sorry, I want to hear from the CEO".

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
93. I don't, but hopefully he has,
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:49 PM
Feb 2013

in which case The Onion has done everything that could be expected of it.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
110. because the ceo said
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:05 PM
Mar 2013

they were 'disciplined', not 'terminated'.

plenty of companies have no problem saying the employee was fired: the Applebee's manager said their fired the waitress who posted the receipt of that tip dodging preacher; the owner of the store in Ny that falsely accused and frisked Forest Whitaker said that employee was fired.

The way that letter is written, it doesn't make it sound like anyone lost their job for this. And they should have.

Brother Buzz

(39,900 posts)
18. That one may be scribbled on the back of a blank unemployment application
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:14 PM
Feb 2013

All of us at The Onion are deeply sorry.

Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #1)

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
63. Actually, if I were QW's mama or agent I would make sure she never knew this happened...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:23 PM
Feb 2013

... out there in the world of supposedly mature adults. No way would I subject her to the "apology" of some random adult jerk. As her mama I would hope to stand between her and the uglier aspects of fame for a few more years.

Just sayin'.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
111. it was verbal assault against a 9 yr old innocent CHILD
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:07 PM
Mar 2013

unless verbally assaulting a child is fair game to you...

it'd be bad enough if it was done to a grown woman, but a CHILD?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
105. I can see it now. "I want you to apologize before I fire you." Not sure the apology
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:06 PM
Feb 2013

would be sincere.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
2. Good apology, not the usual, "if anyone was offended" crap.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:57 PM
Feb 2013

I think the apology is sincere. It should be as I think that tweet did a lot of damage to The Onion's reputation. I know that as a fan of The Onion, I was taken aback.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
14. Yep, that's what a real apology looks like
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:08 PM
Feb 2013

Taking responsibility, swift action, and policy change

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
33. WOW. Classy apology at least. It seems like any of the writers probably have access to their Twitter
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:40 PM
Feb 2013

Maybe they'll moderate it from now on.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
48. oooo. what the?
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:58 PM
Feb 2013

the guy/gal who wrote that must have been drunk or something.

that is way way way over the line. gawd!

thanks for the link.

October

(3,363 posts)
65. I hadn't heard about this. How disgusting!
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:29 PM
Feb 2013

I'm speechless...


I thought a lot of last night's show was offensive and mainly, NOT funny, but this is completely wrong.

 

Taverner

(55,476 posts)
96. If I didn't know any better, I would guess the writer was drunk
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:44 PM
Feb 2013

That seems like the kind of bad idea that only alcohol can inspire

JHB

(38,213 posts)
32. Didn't see it, but apparently there was a musical number that pulled a word switch...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:38 PM
Feb 2013

...i.e. a lyric that pointed to something that would have rhymed with (Helen) "Hunt", but was intentionally flipped to "adorable".

Looks like twit tweeting for The Onion went for the "uncensored" version.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,212 posts)
40. Which makes it surprising they apologised to the Academy as well
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:25 PM
Feb 2013

since the Academy had laid the bait for the insult. I think the Academy could do with joining in the apology.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
70. I think it's fine. Leave the Academy to do its own apologizing for thinking the bit was clever...
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:49 PM
Feb 2013

For the Onion, after the lowest of tweets the only route to take was the high road. Glad they did take it.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
6. Very good apology. When I saw that 1st post I thought accidently gotten on Breitbart.com
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:59 PM
Feb 2013

Last edited Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:35 PM - Edit history (1)

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
19. I appreciate this apology. That tweet was a horrible thing to say to a child, or to anyone for
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:16 PM
Feb 2013

that matter.

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
23. I gotta say, this groveling is kind of funny to watch
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:23 PM
Feb 2013

I think the tweet was wrong. Nobody should ever insult a child that way, ever. I don't care if it's satire or not.

But at the same time, The Onion has been around for quite a long time and they've pulled a lot of shit. I find it amusing that this is what makes them finally beg for forgiveness.

It would be interesting to see what the reaction would have been if they had mocked Trig Palin's Down Syndrome. Lisa Lampanelli did that at the Donald Trump Roast a couple years ago and it brought the house down. AFAIK, her career didn't suffer one bit.

It's fun trying to figure out where the lines are and what constitutes crossing them. It's interesting how quickly satirical humor and reactions to it can turn on a dime.

 

HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
25. It would be interesting to find out if they've ever apologized for anything before.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:32 PM
Feb 2013
 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
27. I don't know. I'm not aware of them doing so
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:33 PM
Feb 2013

I'd guess they have once or twice, but I don't know.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
62. I've never heard of them doing so either
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:23 PM
Feb 2013

They've posted far more offensive stuff than that in the past, and not only have they not apologized, but anyone calling them out on it on Facebook or Twitter is usually barraged by their legion of sycophants saying "It's the Onion, stupid! The Onion can do no wrong! Having a functioning moral compass is so gay!" Or words to that effect.

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
44. I think the apology stems from it being a two-fer offense:
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:46 PM
Feb 2013

1) using the "c" word, and
2) directing it at a minor.

If it had been a joke about the kid's dress or something it would probably would have gone unnoticed. If they'd used the "c" word toward Anne Hathaway or Halle Berry or whatever famous adult actress was on stage, it would have stirred some controversy because the "c" word is always controversial, but it probably wouldn't have elicited a retraction and apology. It was the potent combo affront to societal sensibilities that brought about this public apology from The Onion's CEO.

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
98. Yep, he makes all of us look great, for sure.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:05 PM
Feb 2013

Progressive or not, he's still unfunny and mean-spirited.

 

Gorp

(716 posts)
69. I know it isn't. The on-line edition two weeks after 9-11 is a good example.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:43 PM
Feb 2013

The lead headline was "HOLY FUCKING SHIT!" with a picture of the towers burning. It also had a direct personal editorial from whoever was the CEO at the time explaining why they had been quiet for so long and why they eventually decided they had to parody the event.

In essence, it made it very clear that they in no way intended to belittle the event, but as parody is what they do, the choice was either to avoid all such events forever or continue doing what they do best and write a piece on it. It is exceptionally rare for The Onion to comment in such a way and this current apology is both warranted and sincere, as was the message in 2001.

There was no satire or humor in the comment currently in question - it was simply wrong. That's exactly what the apology says and without any "if" qualifiers. Your question is a good one and I'm sure it is difficult for anyone at The Onion to come off sounding sincere given what they do.



Duer 157099

(17,742 posts)
38. Bunk!
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:07 PM
Feb 2013

Wendell Pierce Wendell Pierce ‏@WendellPierce

@TheOnion Identify the writer. Let him defend that abhorrent verbal attack of a child. You call it humor I call it horrendous.

Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Response to WinkyDink (Reply #43)

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
81. And?
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:52 PM
Feb 2013

I really have no idea what you're getting at. And I guess I never will, because you got bounced from the thread for . . .

Using the c-word.

Is there a lesson in here somewhere? I think there is.

Response to HarveyDarkey (Reply #47)

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
45. It probably stood for an hour before it reached the CEO
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:48 PM
Feb 2013

or other person higher up the food chain than the imbecile employee who tweeted it. I think an hour is a remarkably short turn-around time for twitter (or any web site) moderation to happen - especially on a Sunday night.

intheflow

(30,179 posts)
46. The responses on The Onion's fb page are bizarre.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:49 PM
Feb 2013

Half are people who refuse the apology and the other half are people calling Steve Hannah a wuss for offering an apology.

 

FreeBC

(403 posts)
51. I thought it was funny.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:05 PM
Feb 2013

The joke was the absurdity of calling a 9-year old a c***

lighten up people, it's the onion.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
52. haha. it was just a joke.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:07 PM
Feb 2013

nothing funny about calling girls or women that- particularly 9 year old.

I bet you think gas chamber jokes are just a hoot.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
71. I read the link. I didn't find an example of anyone calling a woman
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:52 PM
Feb 2013

of an age "c***", done well or otherwise.

ButterflyBlood

(12,644 posts)
54. In this case it's a REAL 9-year old girl who is by all accounts a sweetheart
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:09 PM
Feb 2013

Most of The Onion's biting satire involves adult politicians or fictional people. Hurling such a vile insult at a sweet 9-year old is NOT the same thing.

 

FreeBC

(403 posts)
57. that's the point
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:17 PM
Feb 2013

It wouldn't have been funny if was an adult. It would have been taken as an insult. It's only funny if you say it about someone where the idea of calling them that is completely absurd.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
103. Is it then funny if I state "you have a great sense of humor..."?
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:42 PM
Feb 2013

"It's only funny if you say it about someone where the idea of calling them that is completely absurd....

Is it then funny if I state "you have a great sense of humor..."?

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
112. it takes a certain kind of a mind
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:17 PM
Mar 2013

to think attacking the honor of an innocent child is funny and then goes to idiotic extremes to defend their indefensible position.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
72. 9 or 99 it makes me shudder at the crudity of modern society
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:04 PM
Feb 2013

Maybe I'm looking at the past through rose-colored glasses, and I know there were many things wrong with the society of my baby-boom generation, but it just jars my geezer sensitivities when I think that any person, child, adult, male, or female would be subjected to that kind of vile insult, whether it's funny or not. Using that kind of language is an unwarranted attack on someone who has done nothing to deserve it and seems more designed to shock the senses. You can be witty and funny without becoming uncivilized and without human decency.

Response to FreeBC (Reply #51)

 

FreeBC

(403 posts)
58. My mom just passed away last month.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:18 PM
Feb 2013

She was actually very nice and that was very hurtful.

Response to FreeBC (Reply #58)

Response to devilgrrl (Reply #60)

Response to Post removed (Reply #61)

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
84. The jury results aren't back yet
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:01 PM
Feb 2013

but whatever they turn out to be, I just thought you should know I was one of the votes to hide.

Enjoy your stay, and do try the pizza.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
102. The Onion engages in satire.... the tweet was not satire.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:41 PM
Feb 2013

The Onion engages in satire.... the tweet was not satire.

Smarten up people... it's common sense.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
53. meh, just silliness all round
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:08 PM
Feb 2013

The tweet was in bad taste, but it is not the end of the world. Jeezus. It is very trivial in the scheme of things. (also, the tweeter is within his first amendment rights, of course)

I love how this is being blown up from nothing into something Very Very Important.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
73. Nobody claims it's the end of the world or
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:21 PM
Feb 2013

that it's "very,very important" in the grand scheme of things or that he had no first amendment right to say it.God, that 1st amendment argument is dumb.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
74. the reason I mentioned it
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:26 PM
Feb 2013

is upthread there were people saying he should be penalized in some way, one suggestion was losing his job, just because he used a vulgar word and made a joke in bad taste. I think it is a good thing sometimes to remind people of the first amendment, which is one of the key foundations of our country.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
75. The 1st amendment only applies if the government
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:31 PM
Feb 2013

becomes involved in trying to punish him for his tweet, it's got nothing to do with suffering the consequences of an employer punishing him for the tweet.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
76. I disagree
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:40 PM
Feb 2013

If someone on their free time was punished by being fired by saying something like that by an employer who heard about it, I would say it is a first amendment issue.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
79. It's still not a first amendment issue. Ironically
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:48 PM
Feb 2013

it would probably be federal privacy laws that might protect you from being fired for such a reason. This guy was on company time though and as such, they have a right to apologize for his bad attempt at humor and to punish him in some way for making a bad decision, just like any other job. The first amendment is pretty specific about who it's protecting you from, and it's protecting you from the government.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
82. If he was doing it as part of his job, then that is different
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:55 PM
Feb 2013

I'm saying if someone tweets things on their own free time, then I don't think employers should have a right to fire them for something like this. If that were the case, then we would all have to be very mindful of how we speak when off work, for fear of the employer hearing about it.

exboyfil

(18,359 posts)
107. How about the guy who slapped the African American
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:57 PM
Feb 2013

infant and called her the n word on a flight to Atlanta? He lost his job with his company. He was not representing his company at the time. Would the employer have been justified in termination if he had not slapped the infant but only called it the n word?

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
116. I wouldn't be surprised if the onion is an "at will" employer
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:25 PM
Mar 2013

which means they can fire anyone "at will", especially if they do something as stupid and foolish as this on the company's public twitter account that has been seen by millions.

If they're signed in on the company account, then they're not on free time. Duh.

madville

(7,847 posts)
80. The first amendment doesn't protect employment
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:52 PM
Feb 2013

An employer, private or government, has every right in most cases to fire employees for expressing opinions if they chose too.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
83. sure, but that sounds like it could result in a very juicy lawsuit
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:57 PM
Feb 2013

for the person being fired. You really think employers can and should get away for firing someone for their opinions?

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
117. no, but for using company media accounts to express their salacious opinions, yes they can.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 11:27 PM
Mar 2013

The onion is most likely at "at will" employer, so they can fire "at will", especially when they're using company resources to
say extremely offensive things about an innocent 9 yr old child.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
86. maybe you missed the post
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:08 PM
Feb 2013

I said I think its a good thing to remind people of the first amendment, because some upthread were saying this person should be penalized in some way for saying what he said.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
87. I didn't miss the post, and the question still stands.
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:24 PM
Feb 2013

"I said I think its a good thing to remind people of the first amendment, because some upthread were saying this person should be penalized in some way for saying what he said."

People are penalized for the things they say every day in this country. People are held to account for the things they say. I don't think the first amendment means what you think it does.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
88. so, what penalties do you think this person should face?
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:30 PM
Feb 2013

Jail time? A misdemeanor? A fine? What exactly. He did say a joke in bad taste and a vulgar word, I will admit to that evidence.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
90. Why would he face jail time, a misdemeanor, or anything like that?
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:39 PM
Feb 2013

Point me to the person here claiming that?

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
91. tell me what you think the first amendment means
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:45 PM
Feb 2013

You are the one saying that people every day are penalized by what they say. So if you don't mean criminal penalties, what do you mean?

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
94. ok, but I will continue to bring up the first amendment when I feel like it
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:51 PM
Feb 2013

Hope you don't mind...

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
68. Dear Repubs
Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:39 PM
Feb 2013

This is how to apologize!

Notice it does not include the phrase "If I offended anyone..."!

Number23

(24,544 posts)
118. I know I'm late to the party but K&R
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 04:32 AM
Mar 2013

This is the first I've seen of this thread. The fact that the Onion could make such a vile, thoughtless comment is almost as nauseating as the number of people who "defended" it.

No person should be subjected to such a senseless, humorless comment masquerading as satire.

Exactly.

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