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Mason Kennedy

(62 posts)
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:29 AM Feb 2013

Photograph of the 6th President of the United States

"Photographic copy of a daguerotype," whatever that means, of John Quincy Adams. 1843. This is the oldest picture ever of an American President.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Quincy_Adams

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Photograph of the 6th President of the United States (Original Post) Mason Kennedy Feb 2013 OP
Daguerotype was an early form of photohgraphy..... Wounded Bear Feb 2013 #1
Tended to kill the photographer too. nt onehandle Feb 2013 #5
Yep. progressoid Feb 2013 #10
It's actually a "negative" image on a glass plate AlbertCat Feb 2013 #21
he looks like he could probably whip most modern politicians' asses with a belt datasuspect Feb 2013 #2
'Sir. Are you stealing my soul?' nt onehandle Feb 2013 #4
Aaah, now there's a thought ... Myrina Feb 2013 #39
Looks a bit like the first Doctor Who... Tikki Feb 2013 #3
I'm related to Dpm12 Feb 2013 #6
Cool! JustAnotherGen Feb 2013 #7
If you're related to John Q, I hope you're related to his day . . . enlightenment Feb 2013 #8
So am I. frogmarch Feb 2013 #14
So am I EC Feb 2013 #24
Ahhh there you are JustAnotherGen Feb 2013 #9
I wonder what books midwest irish Feb 2013 #11
I think they are a couple of Nora Roberts'. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #12
I think midwest irish Feb 2013 #13
I wonder what books those are behind him? AlbertCat Feb 2013 #22
He also wrestled under the name "El Quincinator." That story isn't as well known though. nt el_bryanto Feb 2013 #15
He looks good for a 76-year-old...no small feat considering the average lifespan at the time. nt SunSeeker Feb 2013 #16
I dunno...he doesn't look at ALL like John Quincy Adams... FailureToCommunicate Feb 2013 #17
Right after some fava beans and chianti... woo me with science Feb 2013 #20
Cool. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #18
It is amazing to me to realize xxqqqzme Feb 2013 #19
Sandwiched between James Monroe and Andrew Jackson. NBachers Feb 2013 #23
This is great. JQA is a Founder. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #25
JQA is a Founder. rdharma Feb 2013 #27
D'oh! That was his daddy. Spoke to soon. JaneyVee Feb 2013 #30
what a happy-looking guy.... Rider3 Feb 2013 #26
The exposure time was quite long frazzled Feb 2013 #33
A friend of mine who was into reenactments & stuff said that was key to getting good photos… looking KittyWampus Feb 2013 #50
Wow, what a face! patrice Feb 2013 #28
Nope, that was his dad. Arkana Feb 2013 #32
Yeah, I just looked it up. I love! old photographs, because you can just almost patrice Feb 2013 #36
History geekgasm WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #29
An unhappy man who had an unhappy Presidency. Arkana Feb 2013 #31
Looks as though no one could tell him to put that used handkerchief in his pocket. patrice Feb 2013 #34
He would have had to sit motionless for many minutes for this photograph, which explains DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #46
Looks like President Cheney lame54 Feb 2013 #35
John Quincy Adams was a much better person than Dick Cheney. DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #45
there was a "Democratic-Republican" Party? wonder how that went LOL! CarrieLynne Feb 2013 #37
Nice pic, but I wish there was a recording... malthaussen Feb 2013 #38
Prepare yourself for some humor..... life long demo Feb 2013 #41
Only person to lose both the electoral vote and the popular vote and still become president. NYC Liberal Feb 2013 #40
An uninteresting (to most) side note... ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #42
A daguerotype was the earliest form of photography, a photograpic copy is DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #43
IIRC, daguerotypes had to be developed with mercury... backscatter712 Feb 2013 #51
I didn't know that, tha's interesting, thanks! DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #52
he was ~78 when that image was taken NoMoreWarNow Feb 2013 #44
Cool post! loudsue Feb 2013 #47
And a photo of our fourth First Lady kiva Feb 2013 #48
Crazy how the world was black and white back then. RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #49
Way cool MadrasT Feb 2013 #53
He wasn't the first SITTING president to be photographed. TheMightyFavog Feb 2013 #54

Wounded Bear

(64,372 posts)
1. Daguerotype was an early form of photohgraphy.....
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:35 AM
Feb 2013

Named after its French inventor DaGuerre. It used primitive chemicals by modern standards. IIRC they tended to come out in browninsh or sepia tones.

So "Photographic copy of a daguerotype" means it is a picture of a picture.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
21. It's actually a "negative" image on a glass plate
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:16 PM
Feb 2013

and you have to put a black background behind the glass plate to see it...by turning to the light at the right angle.

That's why they had to make a "photographic copy" of the Daguerotype.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
2. he looks like he could probably whip most modern politicians' asses with a belt
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:41 AM
Feb 2013

for being mockeries of statesmen.

what a glare that man has.

Tikki

(15,152 posts)
3. Looks a bit like the first Doctor Who...
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:45 AM
Feb 2013


Wait...do you think? Time traveler and all.


Tikki

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
8. If you're related to John Q, I hope you're related to his day . . .
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:21 PM
Feb 2013

otherwise, we need to know what Abigail was getting up to while John Sr. was down at the coffee house with his mates, complaining about King George's latest abuses and usurpations!

EC

(12,287 posts)
24. So am I
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:23 PM
Feb 2013

but no one in our family looks like him that I can tell from this photo.

JustAnotherGen

(38,058 posts)
9. Ahhh there you are
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:22 PM
Feb 2013

You brave old soul!


I wonder if he looks more like Abigail or John . . . Based on paintings - he seems to have Abigail's jaw/mouth.

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,510 posts)
12. I think they are a couple of Nora Roberts'.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:29 PM
Feb 2013

Mixed in with a few Danielle Steele's, and one or two Anne Rice's.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
22. I wonder what books those are behind him?
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:17 PM
Feb 2013

Either the "Harry Potter" series or the "Left Behind" series.

SunSeeker

(58,297 posts)
16. He looks good for a 76-year-old...no small feat considering the average lifespan at the time. nt
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:01 PM
Feb 2013

FailureToCommunicate

(14,607 posts)
17. I dunno...he doesn't look at ALL like John Quincy Adams...
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:01 PM
Feb 2013

Everyone knows THIS is J Q Adams:




(from "Amistad&quot

Welcome to DU, by the way!

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
33. The exposure time was quite long
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:53 PM
Feb 2013

So the subject had to sit still, often supported. This led to stiff, unnatural poses.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
50. A friend of mine who was into reenactments & stuff said that was key to getting good photos… looking
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:11 AM
Feb 2013

uncomfortable and stiff. Just pretend you've been forced to sit on a hard chair for 20 minutes without moving a muscle on a hot day. LOL!

patrice

(47,992 posts)
36. Yeah, I just looked it up. I love! old photographs, because you can just almost
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:58 PM
Feb 2013

put yourself in that time and place just looking at their faces.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
31. An unhappy man who had an unhappy Presidency.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:52 PM
Feb 2013

Adams suffered from the same problems his father did--a grand, detailed vision for the country's future and absolutely no willingness or ability to compromise in order to achieve it. The Jackson-allied Congress pledged to make his life hell from the moment he took the oath of office, and they made good.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
34. Looks as though no one could tell him to put that used handkerchief in his pocket.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:56 PM
Feb 2013

I've known someone like that.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
46. He would have had to sit motionless for many minutes for this photograph, which explains
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:24 PM
Feb 2013

his stiff and emotionless pose.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
45. John Quincy Adams was a much better person than Dick Cheney.
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:22 PM
Feb 2013

He defended in court, the slaves from the ship Amistad and won their freedom, when no other lawyer would take their case.

malthaussen

(18,580 posts)
38. Nice pic, but I wish there was a recording...
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:22 PM
Feb 2013

... too bad voice reproduction was a few years away.

-- Mal

life long demo

(1,113 posts)
41. Prepare yourself for some humor.....
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:34 PM
Feb 2013

We do have their voices, just watch the musical 1776, they are all there, except for JQA of course. LOL

Sorry, couldn't resist.

 

ChisolmTrailDem

(9,463 posts)
42. An uninteresting (to most) side note...
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:36 PM
Feb 2013

First, great historical image. Thanks for posting it.

I was married years ago to a direct descendant of this man. My daughter is descended from his bloodline also. Doesn't mean much really this far out but just an interesting part of the trivia of my life.

DrewFlorida

(1,096 posts)
43. A daguerotype was the earliest form of photography, a photograpic copy is
Tue Feb 26, 2013, 07:18 PM
Feb 2013

just what it sounds like, a photo of the original daguerotype (not the actual daguerotype). A daguerotype is a piece of glass coated with chemicals and exposed to light, creating a photo on glass. Daguerotype photography was first invented in France in 1839 and quickly spread across Europe and America. One of the problems with early photography was the subject had to sit motionless for several minutes during the exposure, which is why the people in the photos always look rigid and emotionless.

backscatter712

(26,357 posts)
51. IIRC, daguerotypes had to be developed with mercury...
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 02:26 AM
Feb 2013

You had to heat the mercury and expose the plate to mercury vapor.

This process tended to be hard on photographers.

TheMightyFavog

(13,770 posts)
54. He wasn't the first SITTING president to be photographed.
Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:55 PM
Feb 2013

That honor went to William Henry Harrison. The photo was taken on the day of his inauguration.

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