Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 06:44 PM Mar 2013

Euro-Area Unemployment Climbs to Record (fruits of austerity policy, soon to be joined by US)

The euro-area jobless rate rose to a record in January as austerity measures taken to counter the debt crisis deepened the currency bloc’s recession.

Unemployment in the 17-nation euro area rose to 11.9 percent from a revised 11.8 percent in December, the European Union’s statistics office in Luxembourg said today. That’s the highest since the data series started in 1995. The figure is higher than the 11.8 percent median estimate of 33 economists in a Bloomberg News survey.

“The situation is very serious,” said Alexander Krueger, chief economist at Bankhaus Lampe in Dusseldorf. “There’s no support any more from Germany. It’s more or less a sideways movement which I expect to continue. Other economies like Italy, Spain and Portugal are very bad at the moment, so in the end the unemployment rate can only climb.”

The euro-area economy recorded its worst performance in four years in the fourth quarter with a contraction of 0.6 percent. Gross domestic product will decline again in the first three months before returning to growth in the second quarter, according to the median of 21 economists’ estimates in a separate Bloomberg survey. The European Commission forecasts unemployment rates of 12.2 percent and 12.1 percent for this year and next.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-03-01/euro-area-unemployment-climbs-to-record-on-recession.html

21 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Euro-Area Unemployment Climbs to Record (fruits of austerity policy, soon to be joined by US) (Original Post) HiPointDem Mar 2013 OP
An Economic Tragedy That Everyone Saw Coming Is Now Unfolding In Europe... HiPointDem Mar 2013 #1
Yes, it's called sacrifice. You give up a generation or two for the future. RB TexLa Mar 2013 #2
you're down with austerity, then? because it will make the future better? for who? HiPointDem Mar 2013 #3
For many it's hard to understand doing something for someone not named "Me" RB TexLa Mar 2013 #4
So that's a YES to austerity? JaneyVee Mar 2013 #5
baloney. Current policy is immiserating ordinary families and enriching elites, and elites are the HiPointDem Mar 2013 #8
You raise taxes to go with the cuts. Raised significantly across the board. RB TexLa Mar 2013 #9
Cutting government spending while raising taxes = AUSTERITY. worse austerity than merely HiPointDem Mar 2013 #11
It's called sacrifice, something that was considered a value before we began calling ourselves RB TexLa Mar 2013 #13
Sacrifice -- for WHAT? To make the rich and powerful even richer and more powerful. SUICIDE, HiPointDem Mar 2013 #16
Everything would be across the board, higher taxes on everyone, and all spending cut RB TexLa Mar 2013 #17
= austerity = immiseration of the majority to the benefit of the rich HiPointDem Mar 2013 #18
Yep that's about the size of it........ socialist_n_TN Mar 2013 #19
I'm trying to think of a country that has actually recovered because of austerity Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2013 #6
You cut and tax across the board RB TexLa Mar 2013 #7
Germany dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #15
We bailed out the banks and they didn't miss a beat. CJCRANE Mar 2013 #10
The thing is, austerity simply doesn't work, MadHound Mar 2013 #20
Yes, you would think we would take it as "lesson learned" bhikkhu Mar 2013 #12
It is NOT going to "get better." 99Forever Mar 2013 #14
What a sad, bizarre outcome for everyone. ananda Mar 2013 #21
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
1. An Economic Tragedy That Everyone Saw Coming Is Now Unfolding In Europe...
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 06:45 PM
Mar 2013

The European economy has been a trainwreck for a long time, but there have been varying stages of it.

From 2007 through 2010 or so, the European economy basically went through the same trajectory as the US.

There was a violent downturn during the financial crisis, and then an upturn.

But thanks to the European sovereign debt crisis, the upturn was cut short.

2011 and 2012 were devoted to solving the acute issue of European sovereign debt crisis, an issue that for now has largely gone away, via the ECB's promise of backstopping governments, so long as they agreed to austerity measures.

But everyone predicted that this austerity would be devastating for growth, and now we see that playing out in 2013 in a wicked way.

http://www.businessinsider.com/european-economic-disaster-2013-3

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
2. Yes, it's called sacrifice. You give up a generation or two for the future.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 06:51 PM
Mar 2013

cut spending, raise taxes, erase debt.

The future is not something America collectively cares about. As a country we want, and we, by God want NOW!
 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
4. For many it's hard to understand doing something for someone not named "Me"
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 06:56 PM
Mar 2013

For future generations, you know the people we steal money from when we borrow to pay for higher spending and lower taxes.
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
8. baloney. Current policy is immiserating ordinary families and enriching elites, and elites are the
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:03 PM
Mar 2013

biggest beneficiary of 'low tax' policy. which has not changed significantly.

The government created something like $14 trillion in debt in a few years -- for the banksters.

Austerity = getting ordinary people to repay that, i.e. THEFT.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
11. Cutting government spending while raising taxes = AUSTERITY. worse austerity than merely
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:08 PM
Mar 2013

cutting government spending.

 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
13. It's called sacrifice, something that was considered a value before we began calling ourselves
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:12 PM
Mar 2013

"Precious Americans"

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
16. Sacrifice -- for WHAT? To make the rich and powerful even richer and more powerful. SUICIDE,
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:31 PM
Mar 2013

not 'sacrifice'.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
18. = austerity = immiseration of the majority to the benefit of the rich
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:54 PM
Mar 2013

i repeat: what are we sacrificing FOR?

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
19. Yep that's about the size of it........
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:56 PM
Mar 2013

There's enough wealth out there to take care of everybody WITHOUT any stinkin' austerity. But we're going to have to take it from the greedy hands of the ones who have it.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,223 posts)
6. I'm trying to think of a country that has actually recovered because of austerity
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:01 PM
Mar 2013

Mostly it's the countries that have repudiated their debt or spent their money on useful things (as opposed to wars and corporate welfare) that have recovered.

We need austerity for the military-industrial complex and the multinationals and the major financial institutions, you know, the ones who caused this mess?

Then and only then can we talk about austerity for ordinary people.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
10. We bailed out the banks and they didn't miss a beat.
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:07 PM
Mar 2013

They carried on like nothing had happened.

Banking should be a utility, not a means for extracting most of a country's wealth.

 

MadHound

(34,179 posts)
20. The thing is, austerity simply doesn't work,
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:00 PM
Mar 2013

Now or in the future. The only way to get out of debt is to grow the economy, that means spending money on employment programs, putting money in peoples' pockets through work. All that sacrificing a generation or two is going to do is insure that the economy doesn't grow.

bhikkhu

(10,789 posts)
12. Yes, you would think we would take it as "lesson learned"
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:12 PM
Mar 2013

and then not go down that path.

After the economic collapse in 2008, most of the G8 put together pretty aggressive stimulus programs - government spending. Ours was on the light side. For awhile, the Euro nations were growing their economies better than us - then the rounds of austerity began, and they slipped into recession while we still plodded along at a slow but steady clip.

The GOP seems fixed on the idea that the only way to prove themselves right about all the "out of control spending!" BS they keep spewing is to force the country into an actual recession, by whatever means possible. The sad thing is that it might actually work; if they can make the economy bad enough, they are likely to emerge from the rubble (eventually) in a stronger position than if they just let sane government policies prevent another crash.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
14. It is NOT going to "get better."
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:18 PM
Mar 2013

There will be a social and political upheaval that might indeed be the end game for this nation. The only questions left, are when and how severe.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Euro-Area Unemployment Cl...