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Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:01 AM Feb 2021

Does anyone else think that the GOP was actually afraid of

a violent response from the sort of trumptrash who stormed the Capitol if they had voted to convict?

Republicans are opportunists, but what did they really have to gain from protecting Trump? How would they profit, other than keeping their jobs for the balance of this term?

I think they are truly afraid of the trumptrash.

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Does anyone else think that the GOP was actually afraid of (Original Post) Progressive Jones Feb 2021 OP
I think some are MustLoveBeagles Feb 2021 #1
That is part of it. I think they want somebody else to make him unelectable like applegrove Feb 2021 #2
If he's a convicted felon Oldem Feb 2021 #3
Maybe, but it would be hard to run a campaign Sogo Feb 2021 #11
The prison time if convicted in GA Oldem Feb 2021 #22
If he was convicted of anything related to the insurrection, Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #23
It's easier to be led by a tyrant than to lead yourself. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #6
They might not have been too afraid before January 6 but I guarantee that they're abqtommy Feb 2021 #4
they are afraid of Trump and agingdem Feb 2021 #10
They're afraid of many things, moonscape Feb 2021 #5
The republicans did what republicans do liberal N proud Feb 2021 #7
Some may be, but if they are afraid of anything, it's losing that job. I can't help thinking they... TreasonousBastard Feb 2021 #8
Guess they're too incompetent to get a job anywhere else. SharonAnn Feb 2021 #9
Exactly the point that Pelosi made today. Sogo Feb 2021 #12
They only want the votes from his base and I predict there will be a concerted effort.... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2021 #13
republicans were looking in a mirror on January 6th. MerryBlooms Feb 2021 #14
Republicans have a tiger by the tail, afraid if they let go they'll be eaten. sop Feb 2021 #15
If MAGAts, Proud Boys, Q-Anons, etc. went after Mike Pence, no_hypocrisy Feb 2021 #16
Mostly No, But... ProfessorGAC Feb 2021 #17
No, seeing that they have been giving them political cover and protection for decades GOPistheEnemy Feb 2021 #18
A lot of the opinions, Maxheader Feb 2021 #19
I think they were afraid of one thing and one thing only DFW Feb 2021 #20
It's more about not wanting to face a Primary challenger JI7 Feb 2021 #21
I think they were afraid for their safety and that of their families Stinky The Clown Feb 2021 #24

applegrove

(118,006 posts)
2. That is part of it. I think they want somebody else to make him unelectable like
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:06 AM
Feb 2021

Biden/Merrick Garland or SDNY.

Oldem

(833 posts)
3. If he's a convicted felon
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:08 AM
Feb 2021

he could still hold any office, including the presidency. I looked it up. So, while that give some satisfaction, it's not the answer.

Oldem

(833 posts)
22. The prison time if convicted in GA
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 01:42 PM
Feb 2021

is one year. He could be out by 2024. Moreover, there are numerous cases of incarcerated candidates winning. For this reason, I put more hope in the SDNY and NY AG's cases that seek to bust him on fraud, money-laundering, etc. That could jam him up for a long time. There are various kinds of fraud, carrying penalties of from two to ten years. And fraud is only one crime he's liable to be tried for in NY. So, to massage your phrase a bit, it would be hard to do the duties of president from prison. Not that he did them when he was free.

Turin_C3PO

(13,649 posts)
23. If he was convicted of anything related to the insurrection,
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 01:43 PM
Feb 2021

the Senate would bar him pursuant to the 14th amendment. All it takes is a simple majority and it would pass.

OAITW r.2.0

(23,810 posts)
6. It's easier to be led by a tyrant than to lead yourself.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:12 AM
Feb 2021

The Senate should be a collective of individual leaders who gain consensus by argument.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
4. They might not have been too afraid before January 6 but I guarantee that they're
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:09 AM
Feb 2021

terrified now! Now they're caught between tRUMP and us Democrats!

agingdem

(7,754 posts)
10. they are afraid of Trump and
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:35 AM
Feb 2021

his insatiable need for revenge...if nothing else the Senate cowards now understand they are expendable...if Trump's "army" of psychopathic soldiers are more than willing to kill Pence, one of their own, because Trump is displeased, then they and their families are in danger and they know it...

moonscape

(4,664 posts)
5. They're afraid of many things,
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:10 AM
Feb 2021

including being primaried, losing election, and death threats and stalking of themselves and their families.

We are shielded from the threats gov public servants endure, mostly democrats of course. But voting to convict is almost like telling the crazies ‘I’m a democrat traitor now.’

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
8. Some may be, but if they are afraid of anything, it's losing that job. I can't help thinking they...
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:19 AM
Feb 2021

all got a call about Mercer, et al, money drying up if they dump on Trump.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,483 posts)
13. They only want the votes from his base and I predict there will be a concerted effort....
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 12:41 AM
Feb 2021

after all the impeachment dust settles to moderate those people and gather them back under the old party wing. Look for a media blitz starting around this spring with a lot of patriotic bullshit, flag-waving and Reagan-ish anti-government/anti-tax crap along with "only we can fix the deficit." Then, they will throw tRump under the bus.

If they're smart at all, they should try to put a damper on all the fury, resentment and Q-bullshit tRump allowed to fester for so long.

I really doubt if their true core (millionaire class) thinks tRump could win again in 2024 and they likely don't want to risk dealing with his insane behavior again. The Party truly is seriously fractured right now, but the billionaires always come through.

But, I've learned to never assume anything reasonable about Republicans. They never fail to fit the true profile of a trainload of psychopaths and as such, are unpredictable.

But you're right - they really are afraid of being shot by some wild-card MAGAt.

KY rant done.....

MerryBlooms

(11,728 posts)
14. republicans were looking in a mirror on January 6th.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 01:04 AM
Feb 2021

They fear their own violent constituents, but they also Love the thought of being part of that violent base. The majority are bullies and get off on the violent rhetoric and actions. Many, if not most in the House, are cut from the same cloth (sociopaths?). All were frightened for a short period of time, but only for themselves, not for their Democratic colleagues or even VP Pence. Some of them were So proud to come to the podium and still object to certification, then joyfully continue to promote trump's Big Lie. I'm not sure how many of these sorry excuses for humans will lose money or votes, but I think it will be very few. It's clear, violent takeover of our Democracy is the path the current republican party has decided isn't a bridge too far.

no_hypocrisy

(45,759 posts)
16. If MAGAts, Proud Boys, Q-Anons, etc. went after Mike Pence,
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 07:36 AM
Feb 2021

then they'd go after ANY republican lawmaker. Their skin is officially in the game if they vote against what Trump's "children" want.

ProfessorGAC

(64,413 posts)
17. Mostly No, But...
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:00 AM
Feb 2021

...way too many are in fear of losing their cushy jobs.
So fearful, that doing right doesn't get included in the equation.

 

GOPistheEnemy

(49 posts)
18. No, seeing that they have been giving them political cover and protection for decades
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:01 AM
Feb 2021

One or 2 may fear them but the majority do not.

Maxheader

(4,366 posts)
19. A lot of the opinions,
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:08 AM
Feb 2021

Expressed by journalists, is the vote. 75000000 people

get on their ass in the voting booths for not protecting

dementia boy...whether the worthless pos tells them to

burn down the white house...or ... your house...

Stinky The Clown

(67,669 posts)
24. I think they were afraid for their safety and that of their families
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 01:49 PM
Feb 2021

There have been threats, not unlike what Maginalized Traitor Green made against Jaime Herrera Beutler.

Nothing loud . . . . yet. Threats are veiled. But they're there.

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