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xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 09:34 AM Mar 2013

The Navy's $440 Million Do-It-All Warship Gets Two Big Life-Saving Escorts [PHOTOS]

http://www.businessinsider.com/lcs-uss-independence-gets-new-bigger-drone-and-mine-hunter-escorts-2013-3?op=1



Among a host of features the Navy's new Littoral Combat Ship planned to provide is the ability to launch and receive a modest tactical drone like the ScanEagle.

But now, even as the LCS-class ship struggles to meet expectations DARPA is calling to beef up the Independence-class LCS drone capability to host a 27 foot wingspan Predator-like UAV.

The new TERN program calls for a drone that can be ship-launched, and recovered, while also able to carry a 600 pound payload up to a 900 mile radius from the ship.

The new drone assignment is in addition to LCS's new robotic surface based mine hunter called the Unmanned Influence Sweep System.


In addition to a normal compliment of weapons and sensors, the LCSnow has this remote surface mine detector assigned to it as well


The foredeck has a modular weapons zone that will hold a 57 mm gun turret or missile launcher


Independence has an Interior Communications Center that can be curtained off from the rest of bridge
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The Navy's $440 Million Do-It-All Warship Gets Two Big Life-Saving Escorts [PHOTOS] (Original Post) xchrom Mar 2013 OP
Wow, what a bargain! for $440 million, it includes curtains! leveymg Mar 2013 #1
! xchrom Mar 2013 #4
Just curious... ret5hd Mar 2013 #2
My guess would be potential light pollution of the forward stations on the bridge. HereSince1628 Mar 2013 #3
It needs an invisibility cloak jsr Mar 2013 #5
"If it doesn't have a casino and a buffet... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2013 #13
That man is playing Galaga. Robb Mar 2013 #6
Read up on the LCS...it's a piece of crap! maxrandb Mar 2013 #7
Yes, but it's a huge corporate welfare piece of crap bursting with pork filling! Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #8
The LCS is finally starting to get on track, but it's been a fucking boondoggle of ineptitude maxrandb Mar 2013 #9
"Electrolysis between dissimilar metals? What?" Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #11
That one still floors me. Posteritatis Mar 2013 #12
It's called galvanic corrosion maxrandb Mar 2013 #14
A design flaw Mnpaul Mar 2013 #15
How many people does it feed? L0oniX Mar 2013 #10
A colleague has a son who is a Navy officer, and he told us that there is much USAF drone-envy apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #16

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. Wow, what a bargain! for $440 million, it includes curtains!
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 10:01 AM
Mar 2013

Even has space for a small helicopter and a little boat. That's totally unique!

ret5hd

(20,509 posts)
2. Just curious...
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 10:02 AM
Mar 2013

re: that last picture. What's the purpose of curtaining off that area from the rest of the bridge?

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. My guess would be potential light pollution of the forward stations on the bridge.
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 10:07 AM
Mar 2013

Maybe this is a fail-safe if red lights don't work?

maxrandb

(15,345 posts)
7. Read up on the LCS...it's a piece of crap!
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 11:51 AM
Mar 2013
http://www.naval-technology.com/features/feature2184/

Once showcased as the future of naval shipbuilding and warship design, the LCS project has more than doubled in cost and time. Moreover, the prototypes haven't even been fully tested by the competing manufacturers – General Dynamics (GD) and Lockheed Martin (LockMart), let alone the navy.

The navy implemented the suspension by cancelling the development contracts for LCS-3 and LCS-4, which were to be built by LockMart and GD respectively.

The LockMart LCS team technically launched the Freedom from Marinette Marine's Wisconsin shipyard in September 2006, but the ship was really just a shell. The Freedom's engines weren't actually fired up until March 2008, and the entire propulsion system completed testing on 10 July. The Independence, which was started later, did not hit the water until 28 April.

Both contractors expect to have prototypes ready for sea trials late this year. By that time, the total average unit cost of the prototyping phase could climb above $600m – almost triple the initial estimate of $220m a ship.
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Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
8. Yes, but it's a huge corporate welfare piece of crap bursting with pork filling!
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 11:54 AM
Mar 2013

Mmmm, good for Amurka, FUCK YEAH!

maxrandb

(15,345 posts)
9. The LCS is finally starting to get on track, but it's been a fucking boondoggle of ineptitude
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 05:57 PM
Mar 2013

For example, they found that they had severe corrosion problems with the aluminum hull where they welded two different types of metal.

I'm not an alchemist, but I know that you can join disparate metals...HOWEVER...when you add saltwater to the equation...

Who could have imagined that the hull of a Navy ship migth someday come in contact with saltwater?

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
11. "Electrolysis between dissimilar metals? What?"
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 06:45 PM
Mar 2013

"What is this 'galvanic corrosion' you speak of and why does it get worse in the presence of an electrolyte?"

I remember they were talking of scrapping one entire hull.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
12. That one still floors me.
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 06:47 PM
Mar 2013

I've got two humanity degrees and would still be able to tell them that was a Bad Idea, and it's not like the United States Navy has a shortage of experience with metalworking. I mean, the hell?

maxrandb

(15,345 posts)
14. It's called galvanic corrosion
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 12:36 AM
Mar 2013

Story below:

In contrast to the first LCS, the steel-hulled USS Freedom, Independence is made mostly of aluminum. And that’s one root of the ship’s ailment.

Corrosion is a $23-billion-a-year problem in the equipment-heavy U.S. military. But Independence‘s decay isn’t a case of mere oxidation, which can usually be prevented by careful maintenance and cleaning. No, the 418-foot-long warship is dissolving due to one whopper of a design flaw.

There are technical terms for this kind of disintegration. Austal USA, Independence‘s Alabama-based builder, calls it “galvanic corrosion.” Civilian scientists know it as “electrolysis.” It’s what occurs when “two dissimilar metals, after being in electrical contact with one another, corrode at different rates,” Austal explained in a statement.

apocalypsehow

(12,751 posts)
16. A colleague has a son who is a Navy officer, and he told us that there is much USAF drone-envy
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:30 AM
Mar 2013

in the upper ranks of the Navy. That they seem to grab a lot of the "sexy" headlines that, say, the F-14 Tomcat did years ago after Top Gun came out, or the Navy Seals did after Osama Bin Laden's assassination.

Don't know how much of the program highlighted in the OP stems from "drone-envy," but found it interesting that after hearing my friend's son talk specifically about "drone-envy" they talk about adding drones to a naval combat vessel in this article.

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