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Grantuspeace

(873 posts)
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 01:41 AM Mar 2013

Rodman isn't the ambassador to N. Korea. And Kim Jong Un isn't in charge.

I don't understand why the American people can't see this? Clearly the military took over after the death of Kim Jong Il. The Rodman visit isn't even relevant.

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defacto7

(14,162 posts)
2. Yeah, I've been saying that
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:15 AM
Mar 2013

Kim Jong Un probably isn't in charge for a long time. To match actions with psychological characteristics, it just doesn't make sense that he is calling the shots. He's a military front... a puppet. Something is seriously out of sync.

David__77

(24,860 posts)
3. Sure Kim Jong Un is in charge.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:18 AM
Mar 2013

He is by virtue of the fact that he is an absolute necessity. Without the Kim family representative, there is no "Leader" of juche ideology. And that ideology is the foundation of the state; quite the opposite of most countries, where ideologies are a consequence of the state rather than its foundation.

Kim is required and is therefore "in charge," but since he need not do anything, other than tour the country and pose for many photos with his lovely wife, it's unlikely he will do anything to rock the boat. Why would he?

gordianot

(15,799 posts)
4. Kim Jong Un is in trouble his public embrace of Rodman did not help.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 02:25 AM
Mar 2013

My guess Kim Jong Un was taken to the woodshed and his subsequent statements were crafted for him after Kim stated he wanted a call from Barak Obama. He is clearly in trouble. Nepotism is no way to run a country and North Korea is not a model for governance or for that matter rabid militarism.

Grantuspeace

(873 posts)
5. The way he "assumed" power suggests he was "interviewed" for the job.
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:16 AM
Mar 2013

It seems he was granted another title after passing each phase of his interview or indoctrination. And before his father's death he was virtually unknown. If he always was the heir of parent, wouldn't he have been more visible before his father's death?

Grantuspeace

(873 posts)
7. Some who criticized Obama for being open to a dialog with Iran are upset because he doesn't
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:29 AM
Mar 2013

"pick up the phone" and call Kim Jong Un. Also it is ridiculous to assume there hasn't been any direct lines of communication or even any dialog through a third party such as China. Why can't people see this? And why is there such a dual standard in dealing with North Korea as opposed to Iran?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. In terms of who's in charge
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:26 AM
Mar 2013

I believe power is being shared between Kim Jong Un and the military. Kim is needed as the figurehead given the history of the country. As for Rodman, no comment.

Renew Deal

(85,361 posts)
9. And here I was thinking that Ambassador Rodman made progress
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:57 AM
Mar 2013

In our relationship with the evil North Koreans, but now I know better.

Javaman

(65,979 posts)
11. It's been subtle but it appears as if there has been a power struggle
Wed Mar 6, 2013, 10:54 AM
Mar 2013

going on in N.Korea since Un took "power".

There are some serious deluded nuts in NK who think if they invade/attack SK, China will once again come to their rescue.

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