Why is medical reform so offensive to conservatives?

[Hepburn]

I don't get it ~~ it has to be more than their stupidity. With an ounce of rational thinking, why the hell would anyone want to appeal the health care reforms done under Obama? Granted, we need to go further, a ton further, but why act like treating the sick and caring for people in pain is a bad thing.

I simply do not understand how in the hell the Pukes wrap their thoughts around this and accept that health care is bad...no, not merely accept it...LONG for any improvement to be repealed.



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[Ohio Dem]

1. Obama did it.

That is the only reason. The mandate is a Republican idea. They should love it, and would have if Bush had done it.

[slay]

2. Because Obama and Dems are for it. That's why. And they are told by Foxnews to hate it

conservatives - well - they aint the brightest bunch to put it nicely. they do as they are told - they are very authoritarian - and if they are told to hate health care reform - then they will. sucks that that large a portion of our population are so fucking stupid - but they truly are. and heartless - if it doesn't affect them personally then they don't care. even when it does affect them personally they have been so brainwashed by 10 years of Foxnews dominance that they STILL think whatever Foxnews and Rush Limbaugh etc tell them to think. it's sick - and even worse - these assholes vote! ugh.

[justiceischeap]

3. I think it goes deeper than partisan politics but that plays a big role

It's like when Jamie Oliver had his show and tried to get people to eat healthier. Folks went nuts over that. Conservatives don't like the idea of not having a choice. If anything at all seems to be "forced" on them, their hackles raise and they start acting like rabid dogs. Plus, I suspect it's a fiscal issue as well. Conservatives are always looking at ways to keep money for themselves... basically, they don't like to share anything.

[Hepburn]

4. Yeah, I think you hit on something.

I have a pal who is conservative about a lot of things ~~ thank gawd, not social issues, tho. And it does hit me that it is a "control" issue with him. He wants the govt to leave him the hell alone. I asked him one day about "what if" there were no regulations on food, drugs, use of alcohol by commerical pilots, and no military to defend the US, etc. And...he just looked at me confused...like...what the hell I was talking about. He just did not get it. I kept saying to him...what if <fill in the blank> law was repealed ~~ like child porn, sexual abuse of children...and he just got more confused. It seems to be an abstract concept to conservatives and when specific issues are raised...they simply don't get the cause and effect issues with what the hell they think they want. My fav with him was.."how about no rules on which side of the road one drives upon...up to the driver..."

And...this is NOT a stupid person...just into issues that keep control out of his life and without thought of the consequences until I came around. Very proud of myself that he has at least decided to register as an Independent and get out of the Repuke party!

[rurallib]

5. control

having control over peons is one of the great tenets of being one of the selected.
But if people can get health care without having to beg and plead and then live in fear that they won't be covered, then the big boys lose control.

Look at all their issues and having a controlling, select elite is very central to their existence.
Take media for example.......

[Bigmack]

6. I think the whole thing resolves to greed....

Conservatives are afraid to their souls - if they have them - that somebody other than themselves is going to get something.

Only they should have it... "it" being anything at all.

I also think racism is involved. They don't want anybody else to get anything, and that goes double for "those people".... and you know who I mean.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

7. IMO BigPharma and Insurance greed

trickles down to their bought-and-paid-for agents in Congress.

Remember when there was strong support for 'Meidcare for all' and Lieberman announced he would fight it? That's the clearest possible example of a 'Senator from Aetna' doing his master's bidding.

Notice how the Ryan Plan for Medicare inserts health insurance companies as intermediaries blocking access to care while getting deep into seniors' savings as well as taking a government voucher?

Careful study of "Medicare Advantage" showed they are an epic failure in their stated mission of bringing healthcare costs down through competition. Instead, they just tack on an extra 15 percent overhead fee while providing no more care to seniors than government-run Medicare. President Obama very wisely cut out the middleman to save $500 million a year while not depriving seniors of any care.

These analyses demonstrate the wrong-headedness of the Ryan Plan. But Mitt Romney keeps saying that President Obama "cut Medicare by half a billion dollars". Since Bain Capital had a sideline Medicare fraud business, Mitt surely knows that what he says in his stump sppech is a crock.

"Follow the money~"

[TheKentuckian]

8. They know their plan has always sucked.

Or the more likely mix of...just to be oppositional, wanting to extract concessions that suck improvements out of the law on the operational level, and because they are told to to feel so by their trusted authorities on the rank and file level.

Everybody pretending this bullshit is some new evil librah plot/a progressive innovation are all full of crap so bad a plunger is needed or maybe a few gallons of liquid plumber.