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English sheepdog
irish wolfhound
terrier
grey hound
collie
German shepherd
poodle
spaniel
setter
retriever
Pomeranian
beagle
pit bull
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)timdog44
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Drale
(7,932 posts)of their names? Names are important but they can also be misnomers, Guinea Pig's are not Pigs, Sea Lions are not lions, and Hedgehogs neither live in Hedges or are Hogs.
toads don't have tools.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)...Jumbo Shrimp.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)moth balls.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Considering the OP said nothing close to what you railed on about.
There is in fact, a reason that there is a breed known as Pit Bulldogs, whether you care to acknowledge it or not. Most have a fairly good idea where that particular name came from, pretending it isn't so, is both dishonest and idiotic.
olddots
(10,237 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Some are defined breeds with specific standards. Others are classes of breed. Others are just casual terms for certain kinds of breeds without being specific classes.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)ability or function for the breed or type of dog.
BainsBane
(53,012 posts)That is a vernacular term. The breed typically associated with pit bulls is the American Staffordshire Terrier.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)Oochie-woochie cuddles!
BainsBane
(53,012 posts)particularly not the German Shepard, Rotweiler, Doberman, Golden Retriever, etc, and the most irritating of all--the Chihuahua.
Give me a nice calm big dog any day over those little yappy dogs that run around and bark constantly.
olddots
(10,237 posts)don't forget their breath smells ,they shed all over the place and have Napoleon complexes -our other dog is a Jack Daniels terrier ,she is 8 and may mellow out in 15 years .
BainsBane
(53,012 posts)I certainly have no desire to exterminate them like some advocate for the pit bull. I just prefer bigger dogs, and the Napoleon complex is exactly why. I've sure you love your little dog and vice versa, and that's what matters.
My staffie could have been called Oochie-woochie cuddles! A giant baby who LOVED other dogs,kids,and cats!!! was afraid of squirrels crows and thunderstorms!!! The owner MAKES the dog!!! Each breed requires its own differences in how you raise,discipline and love them!!
Have I known some vicious pits??? yes but every single one was either constantly chained,not allowed to socialize or deliberately baited to make them mean by some wimp who thought if he could make his dog mean it increased HIS manhood!!!
Paul E Ester
(952 posts)Only allowed to be owned by nobility. The subtext to me was they were used as a weapons/tool against the Irish population.
"There are many stories of the bravery and ferocity of the hounds in battle, such as the one fought by Donald Yellowlocks of Ulster to avenge the killing of his son by Fergus of Ireland, in which the Ulster hounds were with ardour destroying and beheading each warrior. One bitch sprang into Ferguss chariot, which was unable to stand the added weight and promptly collapsed, and seized the charioteer by the neck and tore his head from his body. After this, being unable to find Fergus, who had jumped out of the wreck of the chariot, she killed the horses."
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)I have never seen them with a wolf, but the ones I have seen seem to be pretty gentle and laid back. It would be interesting to know if they were selected for a friendly temperament.
My guess would be that ownership of the hounds was confined to the nobility as an extension of limited hunting rights. A dog like that could take down a wolf or a deer. My grandfather tended to hunt (poach?) rabbits.
Paul E Ester
(952 posts)I had to look around to find a ferocious looking picture. Holy cow with ripping heads off in days of yor.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)dogs brought out to Irish American events. My grand-uncle's dogs got along well with my aunt's Siamese cats.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)wow.
BainsBane
(53,012 posts)almost as much as Great Danes. I so want a Great Dane!
Paul E Ester
(952 posts)smokey nj
(43,853 posts)He was the most mellow dog ever. He just lumbered along the waterfront like a big Muppet dog. One of my clients, a French bulldog named Petey, was completely in awe of him. Petey looked at the wolfhound as if his God just walked by. I haven't seen the wolfhound or his owner in a while. I have the sad feeling he may have crossed the rainbow bridge.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Never seen one looking ferocious before. Holy crap.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Do names really mean anything
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)for decades and then they gave them to Sgt Schultz!
Ja Vol Mien Commandant!
Paul E Ester
(952 posts)The breed is believed to have been created from several different breeds of dogs that had the characteristics that Dobermann was looking for, including the German Pinscher, the Beauceron, the Rottweiler, the Thuringian Sylvan Dog, the Greyhound, the Great Dane, the Weimaraner, the German Shorthaired Pointer, the Manchester Terrier the Old German Shepherd Dog, the American Pit Bull Terrier . The exact ratios of mixing, and even the exact breeds that were used, remain uncertain to this day, although many experts believe that the Doberman Pinscher is a combination of at least four of these breeds. The single exception is the documented crossing with the Greyhound and Manchester Terrier. It is also widely believed that the old German Shepherd gene pool was the single largest contributor to the Doberman breed.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)I suspect that their temperament varies widely and wildly depending on the particular line. There is actually a line of German shepherds bred from the original Rin -Tin-Tin found on a WWI battlefield -
http://susanorlean.com/books/rin-tin-tin.php
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)In my state some years ago, several murders were committed by a young man named Girley Crum.
Can you imagine what elementary school was like for him?
baldguy
(36,649 posts)they ALL - WITHOUT EXCEPTION - were developed with desire to please their human masters and to live in human society.
German Shepherd dogs were developed to herd sheep, but most people who own GSDs don't herd sheep. They have the dog as a family member & companion. Small Terriers were developed to kill mice & rats, but most people who have small Terriers don't let them chase & kill rats. They have the dog as a family member & companion. Bull Dogs were developed to kill bulls for sport, but most people who have Bull Dogs don't engage in bull-baiting with the dog, they have the dog as a family member & companion.
And most people who have dogs which are descended from the original "pit bulls" don't engage in dog fighting, they have the dog as a family member & companion.
BTW:
Her name is Orchid. It doesn't mean she always smells sweet.
janlyn
(735 posts)My staffie's name was chance and he was my sweet baby!!! Still miss him!!!