"Ejaculation inside of a colon - causes AIDS" - actual stated reason against marriage equality

[Capt. Obvious]

"Concerned Minnesotan father and husband” Mike Frey testifies against gay marriage before Minnesota state house, takes it upon himself to explain that gay marriage can lead to “ejaculation inside of a colon.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/03/sodomy_no_one_told_us_about_this.php


I wonder if this guy is a science teacher?

[hobbit709]

1. How does he know?

[Swede Atlanta]

2. OMG, he is really uninformed.......

First of all anal sex is NOT exclusive to homosexuals. Many heterosexual couples engage in it on a regular basis

Second, it isn't the act of ejaculation that causes AIDS. It is the transmission of the HIV virus that infects a person and CAN progress to a diagnosis of AIDS. The virus can be spread in pre-ejaculate fluid, blood and saliva.

So a heterosexual couple that engages in any form of oral contact be it wet kissing or oral sex risks transmission of the virus if one partner is infected especially if the non-infected partner has sores or other tears in gums, lips or in or on genitals.

Third, with or without gay marriage, gay couples will have sex.

It seems to me his issue should be in funding appropriate education and prevention of the transmission of not only the HIV virus but other STDs among heterosexual, bisexual and homosexual persons.

Further, a couple that remains monogamous to one another and where neither partner is infected is the best possible situation to avoid the spread of HIV and other STDs. Gay marriage places those relationships on an equal legal and societal footing as those of heterosexuals. It just might in fact help keep couples together.

[caraher]

7. And he must know all this

It's all just laying on the table the only thing the bigots have - appealing to a sense that there's something especially "icky" about homosexual sex.

In other words, logic and concern for health don't enter the picture at all. This is just about trying to drum up a visceral reaction. But you've certainly laid out all the reasons this makes no logical sense!

[Fearless]

26. Incidentally saliva cannot spread HIV

The only way one can contract HIV through kissing someone with it, is if there is blood present in their mouth, ie through an open sore, a very very rare occurrence.

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/transmission.htm

[Swede Atlanta]

31. Thanks for that clarification.....

I thought saliva was a potential transmitting vehicle if the non-infected partner had any open methods of penetration.

Generally, however, the idea is that whether an act is between two men, two women or a man and a woman, the methods of transmission are generally applicable. Whether or not these pairings engage in the same practices or not is beside the point. For example two lesbians will not be having any penis - anus or penis - vagina intercourse.

[Fearless]

33. Absolutely.

[LeftyMom]

34. A lot of fundamentalists are anti-science.

A lot of HIV denialists believe that AIDS symptoms are caused by some autoimmune response to anal sex (which seems to be what he's getting at) or by a response to the drugs used in treatment.

It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of fundamentalists are denialists, most of them are anti-science of any sort and particularly fond of woo medicine.

[davsand]

3. If that was true there'd be a lot more dead and dying straight people.

Anal sex is NOT limited to one population.






Laura

[Puzzledtraveller]

11. Exactly

I find it odd that that fact somehow always escapes them, quite possibly that they themselves have engaged in it too but somethig in them "bigotry?" precludes them from seeing that.

[sinkingfeeling]

14. +1000

[Silent3]

4. That's it. No more marriage for people who won't swallow. n/t

[riverwalker]

5. he is the pastor of a church

Frey happens to be the pastor of Northern Lights Baptist Church, located in the town of Waconia, Minnesota, a town of 11,000 inhabitants located 35 miles west of Minneapolis. He left that part out as he introduced himself, calling himself a “concerned Minnesotan and father and husband”.

http://aattp.org/minnesota-pastor-offers-the-worst-scientific-analysis-ever-in-speech-against-gay-marriage-bill-video/

their website and contact:
http://northernlightsbaptist.com/

[e-mail]

[Capt. Obvious]

9. Good catch

Thanks for the link

[Arkana]

6. Yes, because straight people have never engaged in buttsex ever.

[cali]

8. I despise these people. they're sick fuckwads who reduce love and committment

to a sex act.

[Recursion]

19. That's what always gets me: "I have to explain gay sex to 5 year olds ZOMG!!!"

I mean, really? Do you explain straight sex when 5 year olds see a straight couple?

[Puzzledtraveller]

10. Can I say , ew?

Not that this doesn't happen in homosexual and heterosexual exchanges but still, that's the first time I have seen it worded that way and it's given me the gross willys, ugh >.<


and in response to the OP, yeah, that's batcrap crazy.

[nolabear]

12. You gotta get out more, Darlin'.

[Puzzledtraveller]

13. You are so right!

[yellowcanine]

15. You have to be married to do that???? Who knew?

Logic is not this guy's strength.

[bullwinkle428]

16. 1985 called - it wants its right-wing talking points back!

[L0oniX]

17. Msg to mr stupid: What's it like to be a rocket scientist?

[Recursion]

18. Where this idea comes from, if anybody's curious

Semen contains an immunosuppressant chemical, and at one point before he went completely off the rails, Duesberg had some evidence that showed that was one component of the infection process -- though that was in a study of vaginal intercourse. Anyways, this morphed to "butt sex causes AIDS" among the great unwashed. Sigh.

[NightWatcher]

20. If a gay person touches you, you'll catch the gay too

And if you hit a leprechaun on the head he has to give you his gold.

[Canuckistanian]

21. Is this the "butt enzymes" guy?

I saw something about him somewhere.

[Swede Atlanta]

22. I hate to say this.....

but I think this guy has some personal experience with "butt" sex.....just saying.....since he seems to be so knowledgeable....

[vankuria]

23. So according to this guy

Those engaging in heterosexual sex will never be exposed to the AIDS virus? He talks about a female "barrier" that prevents sperm from entering the bloodstream, I mean who knew??? And according to his reasoning, at least lesbians should be allowed to marry, they don't produce that nasty sperm that causes AIDS!

[Politicalboi]

28. Here! Here!

And according to his reasoning, at least lesbians should be allowed to marry, they don't produce that nasty sperm that causes AIDS!

[Arugula Latte]

32. That must be related to the Akin system that shuts stuff down during "legitimate" rape.

Wow, we wimmenfolks must have super powers!

[Avalux]

24. What a bigoted, stupid man.

It is a fact that if a man with HIV infection has unprotected anal sex with anyone (male OR female), that person may become infected with HIV. This is the primary mode of transmission for the infection.

But twisting this fact as a reason against marriage equality is just stupid.

[Brickbat]

25. I swear these people are more obsessed with teh buttseks than gay people, lesbians, or even

heterosexual couples who enjoy some backdoor action. It's like that's all they think about.

[Paladin]

36. +1000. They use their hatred as an excuse to get stimulated. Ugly, ugly people. (nt)

[jberryhill]

27. Does he know that happens in straight marriages too?

You really gotta wonder about some people.

There is NO SEXUAL ACT which is exclusive to gay people.

[Lex]

30. Exactly.

Just plain stupid.

[LeftyMom]

35. Well, tribbing.

[Brickbat]

37. Heh.

[LeftyMom]

40. snort

[jberryhill]

39. I beg to differ

And will offer no further explanation.

[Lex]

29. So what about lesbians, genius?

How does your whacked-out theories work in that case?

[LeftyMom]

38. In the search for some awful health outcome for lesbians fundies settled on a study that showed

a slight uptick in obesity rates versus hetero women.

Church attendence is also associated with higher obesity rates, but they don't mention that.

[Lex]

41. Hahaha!

[TeeYiYi]

42. LeftyMom...

...Your posts in this thread have been all kinds of win.

TYY