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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 11:54 AM Mar 2013

Trump Tops Eastwood’s Rambling ‘Empty Chair’ Speech With Rambling ‘Empty Room’ Speech





n a display of “Huh?” worthy of Clint Eastwood and the Empty Chair, Donald Trump gave what Business Insider is describing as “confusing and terrible:”

Trump said he was upset that President Barack Obama did not return his calls about a free ballroom he offered to build. He also made a strange statement about how he wants the U.S. to go back to Iraq to take some oil.

Conservative writer David Freddoso tweeted that the crowd stopped applauding before Trump had even left the stage. He also said:

“I feel dumber for having listened.”


http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/15/trump-tops-eastwoods-rambling-empty-chair-speech-with-rambling-empty-room-speech/
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Trump Tops Eastwood’s Rambling ‘Empty Chair’ Speech With Rambling ‘Empty Room’ Speech (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Mar 2013 OP
"Confusing and terrible" is a good description of CPAC in general, The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2013 #1
He wanted to top Eastwood. A room full of empty chairs is better than just one chair donchaknow. Erose999 Mar 2013 #2
Bwa-ha-haa! klook Mar 2013 #20
"I feel dumber for having listened" sufrommich Mar 2013 #3
Jeez Louise, this is not satire. Not the Onion® Brother Buzz Mar 2013 #4
so this buffoon deserved a speaking slot more than Chris Cristie? DCBob Mar 2013 #5
I expect he paid for the slot (highest bidder). n/t BumRushDaShow Mar 2013 #10
"CPAC is a joke." randome Mar 2013 #21
Trump is such a huge fail. There's few people who deserve the hate they get. Trump is one. Initech Mar 2013 #6
When is Frump's 15 minutes of fame up? Rex Mar 2013 #7
The GOP has the empty chair vote locked up. TeamPooka Mar 2013 #8
...but...aren't empty chairs President Obama? JHB Mar 2013 #9
Obama must have the powers of Dr. Manhattan! ZRT2209 Mar 2013 #18
So the GOP *is* expanding their base. They've added the empty chair vote to their empty land vote. ieoeja Mar 2013 #26
proving forever that itis hard to speak with your head up your ass. rurallib Mar 2013 #11
LOL “I feel dumber for having listened.” Coyotl Mar 2013 #12
The Oligarchs funding that party are desperate to keep moving it to the right. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #23
Dick Morris? Palin? Really? Do they know these idiots were fired by Fox? tularetom Mar 2013 #34
His audience would be bigger SCVDem Mar 2013 #13
Yeah and they would pretty much be a captive Raine Mar 2013 #44
Donald Trump is a living, breathing argument for a 100% inheritance tax JDPriestly Mar 2013 #14
that is EXACTLY what Thomas Paine's Common Sense is about ZRT2209 Mar 2013 #17
And there is far more wisdom to that than most people think. zeemike Mar 2013 #28
Caligula and King George didn't turn out badly because of a poor upbringing. Bette Noir Mar 2013 #30
Yep Mitt is a good case. zeemike Mar 2013 #33
Prince ("what me worry" Mad Magazine) Charles? xtraxritical Mar 2013 #35
Him and Alfred E Newman may share a common ancestor. zeemike Mar 2013 #37
Hey thanks, with the alzheimers setting in I just could not think of Alfred E. Newman! xtraxritical Mar 2013 #38
Oh Alfred E Newman was a childhood hero of mine. zeemike Mar 2013 #42
Yup. sangsaran Mar 2013 #32
Just saw that on Twitter Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2013 #15
it is a mystery to me how this man made millions of dollars ZRT2209 Mar 2013 #16
I dunno wryter2000 Mar 2013 #19
Well, first he inherited millions of dollars. ieoeja Mar 2013 #27
He inherited it and then lost a lot of it. But then, because tblue37 Mar 2013 #29
CPAC Politicalboi Mar 2013 #22
LOVE the con writer's "Billy Madison" tribute! Here's the scene he's referencing: bullwinkle428 Mar 2013 #24
Don't be surprised ROFF Mar 2013 #25
He should buy the Miami Marlins KamaAina Mar 2013 #31
what's more amazing to me is... Javaman Mar 2013 #36
Looks like Mittens stadium gig. lpbk2713 Mar 2013 #39
Now, now... we strive for accuracy here... bobclark86 Mar 2013 #40
Too funny. Even Trump is now admitting our President.... DCKit Mar 2013 #41
Tronald Dump Blue Owl Mar 2013 #43
Trump is a troll, but in all fairness this isn't an empty room, actually looks like a lot of people Exultant Democracy Mar 2013 #45

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,669 posts)
1. "Confusing and terrible" is a good description of CPAC in general,
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:00 PM
Mar 2013

but it sounds like The Donald has managed to seem confusing and terrible even to that crowd - quite a feat.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
3. "I feel dumber for having listened"
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:05 PM
Mar 2013

Because who expects Donald Trump to be an idiot? Seriously, why does anyone expect Trump to be anything other than the circus clown he is.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. When is Frump's 15 minutes of fame up?
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:12 PM
Mar 2013

As far as I can tell, he has made decades out of his 15 minutes. Why does anyone pay attention to him? He is not a self made millionaire. He never made money and had to be bailed out by the taxpayers (thanks Reagan) in the 80s?

He is a huge failure and novelty item way past the due date. Why would our POTUS talk to such a loser? Didn't Frump get the memo? He is the laughing stock of the world...is that what he is living off of now? How sad, someone please tell the M$M that The Don is obsolete and no longer relevant.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
9. ...but...aren't empty chairs President Obama?
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:32 PM
Mar 2013

By the Eastwood standard, Trump's speaking to a full house!

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
26. So the GOP *is* expanding their base. They've added the empty chair vote to their empty land vote.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:57 PM
Mar 2013

This is when someone comes in and points out that there are people living in the Wyoming being somehow slighted by my pointing out that it is not the amount of land, but the amount of people that is important in determining political popularity. Why they find this simple fact insulting I will never understand.


 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
12. LOL “I feel dumber for having listened.”
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 12:50 PM
Mar 2013

That image is a work of art. These clowns are self-marginalizing.

"This year’s CPAC has many scratching their heads in that right extremists like Trump, Palin, Allen West and Dick Morris are headlining but more moderate voices have been completely ignored."

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
23. The Oligarchs funding that party are desperate to keep moving it to the right.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:37 PM
Mar 2013

They got spooked quite badly in the last election after spending a billion dollars and getting nothing for it, in fact, their loudest Teabagger auxiliaries took a drubbing.

They are still operating under the assumption that if they just keep saying things really, really loudly people will believe them, even when reality and their own eyes show different.

Republican moderates are quietly working in the background to save what is left of their faction, because they know that if the Kochs and Adelsons have their way, the Republican Party is sunk.



Rand Paul will be their nominee in 2016, mark it.

He'll lose in a historic landslide.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. Donald Trump is a living, breathing argument for a 100% inheritance tax
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:04 PM
Mar 2013

on any sum over, I'll make a wild stab, $1,000,000.

No reason to pick that number. Any number will do. Just as long as we don't get folks like Donald Trump who think they are entitled to tell us what they think and how we should live and who we should elect simply because they have the money to do whatever they want whenever they want to -- money that they did not earn themselves.

A living, breathing argument for a 100% inheritance tax.

ZRT2209

(1,357 posts)
17. that is EXACTLY what Thomas Paine's Common Sense is about
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 01:25 PM
Mar 2013

everyday people have a right to decide their own futures without an unelected, unaccountable aristocracy functioning as per se dictators

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
28. And there is far more wisdom to that than most people think.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:08 PM
Mar 2013

History should show us that...just look at the monarchs of the past and see how it produces severely flawed people because of the influences of wealth and privilege...go back to Rome or Greece...same thing plays out...you wind up with little Caligula, or Mad King George...

And it is not hard to see why...

Bette Noir

(3,581 posts)
30. Caligula and King George didn't turn out badly because of a poor upbringing.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:19 PM
Mar 2013

Both had organic illnesses-- porphyria in George's case, meningitis in Caligula's-- that affected their mentation.

For an example of someone who turned out poorly because of too much wealth, look to Mitt Romney.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
33. Yep Mitt is a good case.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:31 PM
Mar 2013

But I just looked at a documentary by the BBC on Queen Victoria...and the dysfunctionality of that whole family and even they speculated that there was something physically wrong with them.
But the reality is that the Queen was not mad, just consumed with power and control and thought god gave her the right to be that way....and had no affection at all for her 9 children who were scared for life by it.
I am not altogether sure that madness cannot be caused by early childhood experiences...like babies that are deprived of touch.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
38. Hey thanks, with the alzheimers setting in I just could not think of Alfred E. Newman!
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:59 PM
Mar 2013

Don't you think the resemblance is striking?

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
42. Oh Alfred E Newman was a childhood hero of mine.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 06:13 PM
Mar 2013

I could never forget him....I bought every mad comic that I saw and had a dime to buy it with.

But believe it or not, I did not make the connection until you mentioned it...but yes, they could be related....father and son really.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
27. Well, first he inherited millions of dollars.
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:07 PM
Mar 2013

He then parlayed that into hundreds of millions of dollars. He then went bankrupt.

However, that would have left some banks holding the bag. So the banks put Trump on an allowance (I think it was close to $100K a month) and hired somebody to run his businesses. Eventually, that person recouped Trump's losses.

I think everything was put back into Trump's control again. But I am not entirely certain. Even if it has, he may have learned from his previous debacle and hired someone to run his businesses for him.


The weird thing is that this same logic did not apply following the housing bust. The simplest way for the banks to avoid going under was to restructure mortgages, even defer payments for a couple of years. Either Trump got special treatment because he is now a "member of the club", and they most definitely do give each other preferential treatment in the matter of bankruptcies, or a couple more decades of Reaganism saw the banks grow greedier.

tblue37

(65,304 posts)
29. He inherited it and then lost a lot of it. But then, because
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 02:12 PM
Mar 2013

Americans worship obscene wealth, he wrote self-congratulatory books that earned him money and enhanced his fame, and because his debts were "Huuuuuuge," he never had to repay all of them but was able to settle. Then his notoriety got him the Apprentice franchise, so now he is just a millionaire entertainer, like others who get rich by starring in reality shows. He is just like Snooki (is that how her name is spelled?).

But he has never been as rich as he claimed, and he didn't earn most of it by practicing "the art of the deal"; he got started by inheriting millions.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
40. Now, now... we strive for accuracy here...
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 03:10 PM
Mar 2013

It's not COMPLETELY empty... it just looks like it from this (and most) angles .

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
41. Too funny. Even Trump is now admitting our President....
Fri Mar 15, 2013, 05:38 PM
Mar 2013

needs more ball room.

It must be killing him.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
45. Trump is a troll, but in all fairness this isn't an empty room, actually looks like a lot of people
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 11:43 AM
Mar 2013

anyone who has been to a few of these types of conferences can pull two important clues from this picture. The first is that he is in the main room and second that most of the light are on in this room.

Generally the main room, or big room is only filled a few times generally at the opening and closing of the event and for keynote speakers. In any of these occasions they will also dim the lights in the main room. If the lights are on like this then it is probably during a breakout session where there are a ton of speakers of panels in a number of small rooms. From the look of his crowd Trump may actually have had to be in the big room because it looks like their could easily be too many people there for a smaller conference room.

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