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Steubenville rape case: Trent Mays, Ma'lik Richmond apologize to court (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Mar 2013 OP
Trent Mays never really apologized. PearliePoo2 Mar 2013 #1
Watching Ma'lik Richmond was interesting. Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #2
I believed he apologized. He seemed sorry to me, and so did his father (I saw his apology). Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #8
Their future (schooling, employment) looks pretty dim also..n/t monmouth3 Mar 2013 #3
Oh, no way. Their records will be expunged because of their age. Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #9
This is a pretty high profile case. Soon as they say they're from Steubenville, well.....n/t monmouth3 Mar 2013 #11
I don't think rape can be expunged LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #13
You are right, LadyHawk. I just heard it on CNN...they'll be required to register as sex offenders, Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #15
One has now realized he did something wrong LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #4
I'm thinking Mays was careful not to admit to anything 'cause they're going to appeal. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #16
Yeah, I noticed that, too. Of course, the kind of person who could do what he did... Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #7
+1 yep. He only apologized to his family and team and stuff. what a stuntcat Mar 2013 #17
They are truly sorry... SoCalDem Mar 2013 #5
They should've been taught that actions have consequences. But more importantly, Honeycombe8 Mar 2013 #12
Surprising marions ghost Mar 2013 #6
I think if it had been a jury trial, there's a very good chance Sheldon Cooper Mar 2013 #10
I totally agree marions ghost Mar 2013 #14

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
1. Trent Mays never really apologized.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 11:40 AM
Mar 2013

What the rapist punk did say, "those pictures should have never got out".
In other words, I was caught because of the photos, otherwise I would have skated on this. Fucking asshole.
Ma'lik was melting down and sobbing so bad, it was hard to even discern what he was saying, but it looked like he went over to the victim and at least tried to apologize.
Boys...your claim to fame (football) is now just a memory for you.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
2. Watching Ma'lik Richmond was interesting.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 12:48 PM
Mar 2013

If I were that girl and her family, and he started walking toward me in that way, I would have felt very threatened. He'd already assaulted me once, he'd just been found guilty of that assault, and now he's very deliberately walking toward me? Scary stuff - defendants have been known to freak out in court. But, at least he tried to apologize, I'm not sure how sincere it was, but I think he tried.

The Mays boy is a sociopath.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. I believed he apologized. He seemed sorry to me, and so did his father (I saw his apology).
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:40 PM
Mar 2013

Now the other guy, the ringleader? That wasn't an apology, and I didn't hear remorse in his voice. His parents are probably blaming "that slut."

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. Oh, no way. Their records will be expunged because of their age.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:42 PM
Mar 2013

They'll go to college, play ball, graduate, get good jobs. They'll be fine. I have a feeling the Mays guy will do something else later. That is not a good person who made a mistake, as they say.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
13. I don't think rape can be expunged
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:54 PM
Mar 2013

or the photo charge either. I saw elsewhere that they will have to register as sex offenders, which indicates that the record can't be sealed.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. You are right, LadyHawk. I just heard it on CNN...they'll be required to register as sex offenders,
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 05:17 PM
Mar 2013

which will stay with them for the rest of their lives. Wow. That will seriously impact their futures. Employers now run background checks on prospective employees, and if they don't, they ask specifically about criminal convictions I think.

I hate to hear their lives will be impacted in this way. But the young girl's life will also be permanently impacted. And the boys did this to themselves. What they did was horrific.

I shudder at the thought of what happened to her. I had some good times when I was young and got passed out drunk a few nights. (shudder)

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. Yeah, I noticed that, too. Of course, the kind of person who could do what he did...
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:37 PM
Mar 2013

isn't the kind of person to take responsibility and apologize and admit his guilt. Cowardice and arrogance go together.

stuntcat

(12,022 posts)
17. +1 yep. He only apologized to his family and team and stuff. what a
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 05:33 PM
Mar 2013

what a shit, just a living breathing walking turd.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
5. They are truly sorry...
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 03:17 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Sun Mar 17, 2013, 07:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Sorry that they got caught and had to own up to what they did..

This time it was videoed, but it's probably not the first time they took advantage of a girl.

The real tragedy here is that no one along the line of these kids' growing-up ever got the message to them, that actions have consequences...dire ones sometimes.

Underage drinking can create a world of hurt
Unsupervised parties can lead to all sorts of dangerous behavior
Athletic prowess is not an automatic okay to do whatever you want

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. They should've been taught that actions have consequences. But more importantly,
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:47 PM
Mar 2013

they should have been instilled with a moral compass. That was the real crime. Not many people could do such a criminal and heartless thing, and then have no conscience or remorse about it, any concern for the victim, and then continue to text about it over the next day or two. That shows the Mays guy did not view the girl as a person, but rather as a thing.

The victim's mother made a statement to the court. In part of it she said something like, "a moral compass isn't something that can be taught...not by a school, a teacher, a parent. It's something you're born with or not." I think she hit the nail on the head about the problem. It wasn't that he thought he could get away with it...it was that they were able to do such a thing to begin with w/o any apparent feelings for the victim.

I do think that children can be instilled with empathy and morals, though. Not that I know that for sure.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
6. Surprising
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:29 PM
Mar 2013

I was expecting them to get off. On the grounds that she consented by being intoxicated.

In which case I guess everyone would have cheered.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
10. I think if it had been a jury trial, there's a very good chance
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 04:44 PM
Mar 2013

they would have walked away. Thank the gods it was a judge and not a jury.

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