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Secretary Clinton has made clear her support for marriage equality (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Mar 2013 OP
I just saw this link in a tweet from Dee Dee Myers. Kahuna Mar 2013 #1
She has never stated this before? Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #2
She supported "civil unions" in the 2008 campaign. eom ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2013 #6
I got the vid bigtree Mar 2013 #3
Every voice for equality is welcome. I have only one thing to add: HillWilliam Mar 2013 #4
HillWilliam, I am so sorry for your loss. I know you must be Laurian Mar 2013 #5
I'm so sorry about the loss of your husband. Beacool Mar 2013 #7
Thank you for the hugs. The love of my friends is helping me to HillWilliam Mar 2013 #8
That's great!!! Beacool Mar 2013 #9

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
4. Every voice for equality is welcome. I have only one thing to add:
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 11:20 AM
Mar 2013

To those who oppose same-sex marriage I have just one thing to say: If there were such a thing as true and just Karma, they should be made to pick a day -- any day -- in my late partner's and my 17 year time together and watch us invisibly as we went about our daily life. We shared everything: a home, the cooking, a supper table, the shopping, all the decision making, the raising of our dogs, the financial planning, and yes, a bed and even the same wardrobe. We were in every regard a married couple except for legal recognition.

Then after witnessing that day, that same detractor should be made to feel even one percent of the shock and grief I'm feeling now at the loss of my husband. Then, damn you haters all, have the balls to tell me my marriage wasn't real. After that, I really want to see if you have the balls. I'm betting, if there were a true and just Karma, you won't.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
5. HillWilliam, I am so sorry for your loss. I know you must be
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 11:55 AM
Mar 2013

devastated and your pain exacerbated by the lack of recognition of your love and commitment to your husband. Please accept my sincere condolences.

Beacool

(30,518 posts)
7. I'm so sorry about the loss of your husband.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 12:19 PM
Mar 2013

Last edited Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:05 PM - Edit history (1)

I have many gay friends and several couples I know have been together more than 20 years. Since they passed the law in NYC, I have been to two weddings already.

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
8. Thank you for the hugs. The love of my friends is helping me to
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 12:45 PM
Mar 2013

accept and be brave enough to keep going.

Please keep speaking out for marriage equality if you have time and strength. My beloved and I missed out. But for a tremendous amount of luck and neighbors who stood by me, thanks to Amendment One in NC, the doctor could not have disclosed to me that my partner had died, I would not have been allowed to see the body, I could not have started the funeral arrangements, I could not have received the death certificates, I could not have begun to wrap up his affairs.

As it is, it has been a nightmare because we are still "legal strangers". But for one, tiny, incredible piece of serendipity that happened to work out in my favor, it would have gone much, much worse. As it has been, if we could have been married, the process of taking care of all of his final business would have been ever so much easier and I would have been cross-examined so much less.

Can you imagine walking around in this sort of PTSD state, trying to hold yourself together, AND being made to feel like some identity thief or criminal at every turn? Injury, pain, then insults.

It doesn't need to be this way. All I'm asking for my DU family to do is talk about the effects to your friends and family. I'm living what happens when marriage isn't equal. Civil partnerships aren't equal, hold no benefit in these situations. Being denied even that in NC turns the grief and loss into a nightmare that just won't stop.

Beacool

(30,518 posts)
9. That's great!!!
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:04 PM
Mar 2013

Chelsea and Bill are on board, but I knew that she couldn't say what she felt until she left her post as SOS.

Thank you, Hillary!!!

I think that her speech in Geneva on LGBT rights is as important, and will be quoted for years to come, as the one she gave on women's rights in China in 1995.



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