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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 01:58 PM Mar 2013

David Renz, Accused Of Killing Woman, Raping Girl, Gets Beaten In Jail

SYRACUSE, N.Y. -- A man accused of killing a Syracuse woman and raping her 10-year-old daughter during a carjacking was beaten and suffered a broken nose on his first day in jail, authorities said.

David Renz had a swollen face and tissues stuffed up both nostrils when he appeared in federal court Friday to face a probation violation charge.

"I have a broken nose," he told his lawyer, according to The Post-Standard in Syracuse (http://bit.ly/15b7NLd).

His attorneys, James Greenwald and Kenneth Moynihan, said Renz was assaulted by other inmates at the Onondaga County Justice Center, where he was taken following his arrest Thursday night.

Sheriff Kevin Walsh told the newspaper he was looking into why Renz was put into a holding area with other prisoners – not the usual practice in holding someone facing such accusations.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/david-renz-beaten_n_2899914.html?utm_hp_ref=crime

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David Renz, Accused Of Killing Woman, Raping Girl, Gets Beaten In Jail (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 OP
jails are full of violent criminals? who knew? nt msongs Mar 2013 #1
Probably the first of many beatings this guy earned. nt Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #2
Amazing that anyone in America conceptualizes our justice system that way cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #6
As a rape survivor, as the mother of a rape survivor, as the friend of Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #14
He should be segregated from other prisoners. cali Mar 2013 #3
Pic warrior1 Mar 2013 #4
He should be able to sue the state for vast sums. cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #5
By all means, let him sue, so long as every penny he recovers gets garnished by geek tragedy Mar 2013 #9
Yup Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #11
and (3) the state feels a pinch for not doing its job in protecting prisoners. nt geek tragedy Mar 2013 #12
Not a win/win, really. Marr Mar 2013 #13
This guy is going to have a short lifespan behind bars MrScorpio Mar 2013 #7
They're the lowest of the low, if put in the general population. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2013 #8
Aw, the poor baby. redqueen Mar 2013 #10
He's been accused, not convicted DavidDvorkin Mar 2013 #15
Wow, what a liberal place this is Dreamer Tatum Mar 2013 #16

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
14. As a rape survivor, as the mother of a rape survivor, as the friend of
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 04:06 PM
Mar 2013

several women that have survived rape, as the daughter of a rape survivor, as the sister of rape survivors, I am tired of men getting away with this shit. I am not advocating the beating, nor rape of anyone, this guy does deserve his time in court.

I admit that I commented too quickly as an emotional reaction when I saw 10 years old. I mistakenly thought he had been convicted already. However, I cannot have much compassion for men like this one when they do finally reap what they have sown.

I do not believe in the death penalty either, not even for war criminals.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
5. He should be able to sue the state for vast sums.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:31 PM
Mar 2013

This is something people do not seem to get... the state is RESPONSIBLE FOR everything that happens in prison. The state creates the entire situation. The state makes it impossible for people to be safe.

Everything that happens in prison is on the state. With total authority comes total responsibility.

And the state is not allowed to beat people up, rape people, murder people without due process and a state death sentence, etc..

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. By all means, let him sue, so long as every penny he recovers gets garnished by
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:08 PM
Mar 2013

the estate of the woman he murdered/in trust for the child he raped.

A broken nose ain't shit compared to being raped as a ten-year old.


 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
11. Yup
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:15 PM
Mar 2013

So his beating would be a good thing for two reason:

1) This asshole gets to feel pain
2) The victim's estate gets money.

A win-win situation.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
13. Not a win/win, really.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:25 PM
Mar 2013

I mean, if that's how it worked, you'd be setting up an enormous incentive for victims and their families to hire prisoners to beat the shit out their attackers in prison. It'd certainly be a win/win for THEM, but also a huge mess.

MrScorpio

(73,772 posts)
7. This guy is going to have a short lifespan behind bars
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 02:44 PM
Mar 2013

Baby-rapers don't last long in that crowd.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,161 posts)
8. They're the lowest of the low, if put in the general population.
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 03:06 PM
Mar 2013

Retribution is sure, and it is without appeal. Which is why most departments house such people outside the general population.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,996 posts)
16. Wow, what a liberal place this is
Mon Mar 18, 2013, 05:03 PM
Mar 2013

someone is accused of a crime, not convicted, gets the shit beaten out of him, and so far it's almost unanimous that it's a good thing.

Fucking crazy.

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