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Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 09:51 AM Mar 2013

Pope sets tone for humbler papacy, calls for defense of the weak

By Philip Pullella and Catherine Hornby

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Francis set the tone for a new, humbler papacy on Tuesday with a call for the defense of the weak and the environment, saying this was the way to prevent the triumph of death and destruction. (snip)

Although he is as conservative doctrinely as Benedict, his simplicity and his emphasis on the Church's mission to care for the poor is a sea change from his predecessor. (snip)



http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/03/19/us-pope-idUSBRE92D05P20130319
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I call bullshit. If this pope really wanted to help end poverty and help the environment, he'd support women's health rights across the globe, especially within the realm of contraception and if not pro-choice. Instead he's just a lying asshole pretending he give's a shit.


I thought of putting this in Religion, but decided it's equally womens' rights, so put it in GD. If I'm wrong, I'll gladly move it, or re-do it, or whatever needs to be done.
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Pope sets tone for humbler papacy, calls for defense of the weak (Original Post) Lionessa Mar 2013 OP
Such a nice sentiment to wake up to. :) reformist2 Mar 2013 #1
Whose, mine or the pope's? Lionessa Mar 2013 #2
"defense of the weak" is good and bad caraher Mar 2013 #3
There is what is called Consistent Life Ethic Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #6
Right caraher Mar 2013 #9
Contraceptives make a great defense, as do civil rights and equality. Orsino Mar 2013 #4
We'll see. 99Forever Mar 2013 #5
No we won't, he is as conservative as the last one, ie women are to be Lionessa Mar 2013 #7
Odds are that you are correct. 99Forever Mar 2013 #8
Thanks. Needed to be said. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #10

caraher

(6,364 posts)
3. "defense of the weak" is good and bad
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:03 PM
Mar 2013

The problem with it is that the anti-abortion obsessives latch onto the phrase and argue that nobody is weaker than a fetus, therefore "defense of the weak" = all out attack on abortion.

Now if you take the scope to be actual post-birth humans, "defense of the weak" is uncontroversially a good thing...

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,587 posts)
6. There is what is called Consistent Life Ethic
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:12 PM
Mar 2013

Don't know how much of a subscriber to it Pope Francis was as Cardinal, but it was strongly championed by the late Cardinal Bernadin of Chicago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consistent_life_ethic

caraher

(6,364 posts)
9. Right
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 01:10 PM
Mar 2013

I make a strong distinction between the fetus-obsessed and those whose "pro-life" views do not end at birth.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
4. Contraceptives make a great defense, as do civil rights and equality.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:06 PM
Mar 2013

How soon can he start?

 

Lionessa

(3,894 posts)
7. No we won't, he is as conservative as the last one, ie women are to be
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:12 PM
Mar 2013

vessels for men's sperm, pregnancy, and too many children, fathers/husbands abandoning them.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
8. Odds are that you are correct.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:19 PM
Mar 2013

As unlikely as it might be, I hope you are wrong. We'll see.

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