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Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 01:29 AM Mar 2013

Hunter carries orphaned polar bear cub home on snowmachine

James Tazruk spotted the polar bear 40 miles outside his hometown of Point Lay, high above the Arctic Circle. It was all alone, he said.

"We were out (looking) for caribou or anything. Wolverine. Whatever we could find, and we run into that bear," said Tazruk, who as an Inupiaq subsistence hunter is generally allowed under federal law to take polar bears. It was last Monday and he was hunting with a partner from the village.

Tazruk fired his rifle from 100 yards. A kill. It wasn't until he rolled the bear over that he saw it was a nursing sow. "Got a cub somewhere," Tazruk remembers thinking. The hunters followed the animal's tracks to a den about 1,500 feet away.

Inside was Kali.

Read more here: http://www.adn.com/2013/03/19/2832004/hunter-carries-orphaned-polar.html#storylink=cpy



Poor baby. Sad.

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Hunter carries orphaned polar bear cub home on snowmachine (Original Post) Arctic Dave Mar 2013 OP
Cool, the cub can grow up so that Tazruk can kill it. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #1
yes, otherwise they wouldn't have killed it. And the man said it was too bad it was a momma bear KittyWampus Mar 2013 #3
Cute Kitty. I grew up in a farmer hunter community of 2000. Nobody shot a bear because Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #6
I tried bear meat once up in Humboldt County, CA. Webster Green Mar 2013 #30
Yes, they do eat them. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #4
Well there you go. They saved the cub so the cub can grow into a big bear Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #8
Who knows, maybe the bear will grow up to eat the hunter. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #10
True. And that happens ALL the time. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #12
People are mauled every year in Alaska. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #14
Oddly enough, As a San Franciscan, I am good friends with 5 people who grew Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #15
That is probably a correct percentage. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #16
Given my sense of humor, I'd prefer pig death over bear death... Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #24
I would think the Death by Pig would be a little more painful. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #25
Hmmm. I'm wondering. Do pigs, due to the lack of killing tools... Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #29
I think it goes something like this. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #32
Glad hunters took time to bring cub back. KittyWampus Mar 2013 #2
Yeah. It was unfortunate but he did the right thing by Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #5
Is it better to die young and free or old and captive? pipoman Mar 2013 #7
Either way you're dead. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #9
One just takes much longer..do captive polar bears have quality of life? pipoman Mar 2013 #18
The same question could be asked for you and I. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #22
I keep my daughter healthy. She's 23 years old and I've never let her outside. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #26
Awesome. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #31
Twice a day, I take my domesticated polar bear and daughter Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #33
An assortment of fun for both of them. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #34
zoos have their purposes too liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #23
Starvation is no way to die liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #11
Yep. Being shot is dignified. Luminous Animal Mar 2013 #13
Neither is years of torturous treatment by humans.. pipoman Mar 2013 #20
he killed the little cub bear's momma but at least there was a happy ending. bubbayugga Mar 2013 #17
Happy ending for who? Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #19
did you miss the six sarcasm tags? bubbayugga Mar 2013 #27
Actually I suspect Arctic Dave pipoman Mar 2013 #38
It is nature at it's base.. pipoman Mar 2013 #21
It's wrong. Nobody should have legal right to shoot endangered species. bubbayugga Mar 2013 #28
They aren't endangered. pipoman Mar 2013 #36
Polar bears are in serious danger of going extinct due to global warming bubbayugga Mar 2013 #40
There is a distinction between "threatened" and "endangered".. pipoman Mar 2013 #41
"...in serious danger of going extinct" bubbayugga Mar 2013 #42
Indigenous people pipoman Mar 2013 #43
James Tazruk is a piece of shit. Boudica the Lyoness Mar 2013 #35
LOL pipoman Mar 2013 #37
I'm glad you are a vegetarian. Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #39
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
3. yes, otherwise they wouldn't have killed it. And the man said it was too bad it was a momma bear
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 01:41 AM
Mar 2013

Food doesn't actually grow in plastic wrappers and boxes in the grocery store, you know.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
6. Cute Kitty. I grew up in a farmer hunter community of 2000. Nobody shot a bear because
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 01:47 AM
Mar 2013

nobody ate a bear because the taste of bear was foul and we needed no other part of the bear for survival. So, I am curious, are polar bears necessary for subsistence in the Inupiaq community.

Webster Green

(13,905 posts)
30. I tried bear meat once up in Humboldt County, CA.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:42 AM
Mar 2013

It was about the nastiest thing I've ever eaten.

Now, those wild boars on the other hand.....best meat I ever had.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
4. Yes, they do eat them.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 01:42 AM
Mar 2013

Along with just about anything that they come across. Living in a village you have very little options of what you get to eat that isn't flown in.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
8. Well there you go. They saved the cub so the cub can grow into a big bear
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 01:51 AM
Mar 2013

to be eaten. I've no problem with hunting for food. And I have no problem an "aw" story but this is not one.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
10. Who knows, maybe the bear will grow up to eat the hunter.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 01:53 AM
Mar 2013

He is part of the food chain too.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
15. Oddly enough, As a San Franciscan, I am good friends with 5 people who grew
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:06 AM
Mar 2013

up in Alaska (and three still live there). I know that people do get mauled. More people in the U.S. are killed by pigs per percentage of the population than they are polar bears.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
16. That is probably a correct percentage.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:08 AM
Mar 2013

Imagine how unique you would be to have the honor of a bear mauling.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
24. Given my sense of humor, I'd prefer pig death over bear death...
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:18 AM
Mar 2013

It would make a more humorous obituary. My 23 year old daughter agrees.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
25. I would think the Death by Pig would be a little more painful.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:21 AM
Mar 2013

A bear would be pretty quick.

However, if by Death by Pig means eating vast amounts of bacon then I would much rather that be the way to go.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
29. Hmmm. I'm wondering. Do pigs, due to the lack of killing tools...
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:41 AM
Mar 2013

sharp teeth and claws, do their best when attacking to disable a person by trampling the fuck out of a person as quick as possible in order to ensure a quick death and thus a leisurely munch. And do polar bears just say, fuck it and sit on your legs while they rip your arm off and ignore your agonized screams.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
18. One just takes much longer..do captive polar bears have quality of life?
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:08 AM
Mar 2013

I don't really know..The last zoo I went to was San Diego and the larger animals don't look all that healthy or happy..

I suspect it is too young to be returned to the wild. Maybe they are raised to maturity then harvested like any other livestock..that wouldn't work because it would eat more than it would produce. No, it must be destined for a zoo or orphanage. It's sad but happens in nature..

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
22. The same question could be asked for you and I.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:13 AM
Mar 2013

I would think there are zoos that would be happy to receive a polar bear cub.

Hopefully those zoos are equipped to handle a bear and keep it healthy.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
26. I keep my daughter healthy. She's 23 years old and I've never let her outside.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:31 AM
Mar 2013

It can be dangerous out their for a human being. Sure, it's not ideal to be cooped up for the rest of her natural life but at least she is alive.

And we live on one of the busiest pedestrian streets in San Francisco we've put up a barred window so people can observe her in her habitat (TV, internet, books, etc.). In a couple of months, we are going to introduce her to a mate.

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
31. Awesome.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:53 AM
Mar 2013

I understand that millions of people do this with cats, dogs and other various animals also.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
23. zoos have their purposes too
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:16 AM
Mar 2013

Sometimes zoos are the only ways to keep a species from going extinct and they have breeding programs and often partner up with national wildlife preserves to release the the babies that have been born into the breeding program.

 

bubbayugga

(222 posts)
17. he killed the little cub bear's momma but at least there was a happy ending.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:08 AM
Mar 2013

fucking disgusting.
 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
38. Actually I suspect Arctic Dave
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 09:19 AM
Mar 2013

understands the realities of Arctic life for natives and believes that this is the best outcome under the unfortunate conditions which occurred...can't speak for him, just guessing..

 

bubbayugga

(222 posts)
28. It's wrong. Nobody should have legal right to shoot endangered species.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:36 AM
Mar 2013

Fuck James Tazruk.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
36. They aren't endangered.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 09:08 AM
Mar 2013

They were placed on the threatened list not because of declining numbers, but because of the possible long term effects of global warming on their habitat. Native American subsistence hunters are allowed to hunt them as they have for millennia (as in this case)...and as they should be..they are not trading in polar bear products, they are using the bears for human survival in desperate climate conditions..

 

bubbayugga

(222 posts)
40. Polar bears are in serious danger of going extinct due to global warming
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 05:02 PM
Mar 2013
Polar bears are in serious danger of going extinct due to global warming. The bears were the first vertebrate species to be listed by the U.S. Endangered Species Act as threatened by extinction primarily because of global warming.
Rising temperatures in the world’s oceans are causing sea ice to disappear for longer and longer periods during the late summer, leaving polar bears insufficient time to hunt. This is a worldwide problem, and the Endangered Species Act has listed polar bears as threatened everywhere in the world they occur.
the National Wildlife Federation
 

bubbayugga

(222 posts)
42. "...in serious danger of going extinct"
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 08:46 PM
Mar 2013

Killing a polar bear at any time is wrong. Killing a mother polar bear who is raising her cub is about as fucking wrong as you can get regardless of anything else. Are you actually going to argue otherwise? There has always been politics involved with the listing of endangered species and I suspect that that is the case here.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
43. Indigenous people
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 09:15 PM
Mar 2013

have harvested polar bears for thousands of years, so no, I don't agree that, "Killing a polar bear at any time is wrong."...any more than hunting any other animal for meat is wrong. Millionaires flying in from Houston to shoot a polar bear, not so much..

 

Boudica the Lyoness

(2,899 posts)
35. James Tazruk is a piece of shit.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 03:57 AM
Mar 2013

What a cowardly and cruel thing James Tazruk did. Killing animal, a mother no less, who was doing her best to keep her baby alive.

Disclaimer; I am a strict vegetarian. No animals die in order for me to live.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
37. LOL
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 09:16 AM
Mar 2013

You have no credibility unless you are a vegetarian on the arctic circle..veggies are a bit sparse in those parts..

 

Arctic Dave

(13,812 posts)
39. I'm glad you are a vegetarian.
Wed Mar 20, 2013, 02:17 PM
Mar 2013

He doesn't have that option where he lives unless he is a millionaire.

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