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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:15 AM Mar 2013

This Man Has A DRUNK WOMAN On His Sofa: Watch What Happens Next

If you’re wearing a short skirt, get drunk and pass out at a guy’s house, don’t complain when this happens to you:







“Real men treat women with respect.” That’s the message that people, men included, have been trying to scream over the loud cries of “she deserved it,” ever since the rapists in the Steubenville case were found guilty (and long before that). The defense attorney representing the rapists tried to make it her fault because she chose to drink to excess and did not specifically say “no;” members of the media lamented the ruined lives of two promising young athletes and said she needed to look at her own role in the incident; and Buzzfeed compiled a list of 23 posts, messages and tweets blaming the girl for what happened to her.



That the young man above even needed to make a video demonstrating how he would treat an unconscious woman is a deeply sad statement about America and rape culture. Still, it’s definitely a message worth paying very close attention to as it’s entirely too common for our society to blame a rape victim for being raped. There are two main facets of rape culture. The first is that the victim is to blame for the crime. Usually a woman, people will say, as they have said in the Steubenville case, shouldn’t have dressed a certain way, behaved a certain way, gotten drunk, gone out alone, walked down an alley, etc. You name it, she shouldn’t have done it, because not doing it would have prevented her from being raped.



It’s so bad that a female judge in Arizona blamed a woman for a police officer groping her under her skirt in a bar. Judge Jacqueline Hatch, after ruling that DPS Officer Robb Evans was guilty of sexual abuse, told the victim, “If you wouldn’t have been there that night, none of this would have happened to you.” She then went on to tell the victim that she hoped she learned a lesson about friendship and vulnerability, and that blaming others takes away a person’s power to change.



The victim believes, and perhaps rightly so, that if she hadn’t been there, it would have happened to someone else. The judge said she wasn’t to blame, and then blamed her anyway, because “bad things happen in bars.”


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http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/03/24/this-man-has-a-drunk-woman-on-his-sofa-watch-what-happens-next-video/
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This Man Has A DRUNK WOMAN On His Sofa: Watch What Happens Next (Original Post) Segami Mar 2013 OP
Nice! A good PSA. MineralMan Mar 2013 #1
I feel I must be terribly old, foolish, naive and out of touch. Mister Ed Mar 2013 #8
The thing is, most individuals aren't all that bad on their own. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #9
Yes. I have done the same thing MineralMan Mar 2013 #11
He had no right to touch her head or hair like that Orrex Mar 2013 #2
He was getting her hair out of her mouth... IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 2013 #4
She was asking for it. wtmusic Mar 2013 #5
such a simple message, and important, yet, we have three men doing a giggle minimizing the message seabeyond Mar 2013 #6
I guess you could see it that way. wtmusic Mar 2013 #7
No doubt in my mind, that young man could be either of my sons mountain grammy Mar 2013 #3
WTF? "bad things happen in bars."? jazzimov Mar 2013 #10
Weekday kick nt riderinthestorm Mar 2013 #12
K&R myrna minx Mar 2013 #13

Mister Ed

(5,928 posts)
8. I feel I must be terribly old, foolish, naive and out of touch.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 07:03 PM
Mar 2013

I still have trouble grasping the stark fact that his sort of message is badly needed today.

It just seems to me that it would go without saying that this is how a guy would handle the situation.

Even when I was young, and had terrible judgment, it wouldn't have occurred to me that it could be otherwise. I remember once, at a party at the end of ninth grade, when Emma L. drank too much and passed out. All the other kids just left her there on the lawn in the darkened backyard, and went back in the house. I was worried about her, so I sat there in the grass with her to keep an eye on her. It only took about a half an hour until she came to, and I was able to help her back to the house.

I certainly don't deserve some sort of a medal for not committing a heinous crime, or for not even having it cross my mind. I just don't think any of us guys at that party would have. Not even the worst of us. And in a lot of ways, we were pretty awful.

It just makes me think that something has changed, something has gone terribly wrong, since you or I were young. Then again, I guess many, many of the women of DU who are our age know all too well that I'm dead wrong, and that things were the same back then, too.

It makes me feel terribly old, foolish, naive and out of touch. And it makes me feel very glad that people are doing things like this PSA to start turning the situation around, and start putting things the way they always should have been.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
9. The thing is, most individuals aren't all that bad on their own.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 07:29 PM
Mar 2013

But the dynamics of a peer group, in the right (or wrong) situation, can change things drastically. All it takes is one quasi-sociopath, and a number of otherwise fairly decent young people can be persuaded to participate in, or at least condone, all sorts of awful stuff.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
11. Yes. I have done the same thing
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 07:48 PM
Mar 2013

several times. I cannot imagine doing anything else. But I know not all men behave that way.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. such a simple message, and important, yet, we have three men doing a giggle minimizing the message
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 01:02 PM
Mar 2013

wtmusic

(39,166 posts)
7. I guess you could see it that way.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 02:49 PM
Mar 2013

Or you could see it as mocking the people who are ignorant enough to actually embrace those views. Glass half empty/full.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
3. No doubt in my mind, that young man could be either of my sons
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 12:08 PM
Mar 2013

and the sons of most of us who have raised them to respect others. Nice PSA, makes me proud of my "boys," especially when I think, that girl could be my daughter!

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
10. WTF? "bad things happen in bars."?
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 07:39 PM
Mar 2013

Just referring to her Corporate masters:
I'm sure that small-business bar owners are glad to hear this.

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