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HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:33 PM Mar 2013

World's Quietest Room Will Drive You Crazy



Scientists at Minneapolis’ Orfield Labs created their own soundless room, an anechoic chamber. Their studies have found that when putting subjects within the chamber, they begin to hallucinate within 30 minutes.
With an average quiet room having a sound level of 30 decibels, the anechoic chamber’s sound level is -9 decibels. The ceiling, floor, and walls of the chamber absorb sound rather than have it bounce off as normal objects do. The chamber is so quiet that the subjects can even hear their own organs functioning.
Although extremely interesting, the experience is rather unpleasant. Not one subject has spent more than 45 minutes in the chamber alone. Leaving a person to only their thoughts, the chamber could drive them insane.

http://www.realclearscience.com/video/2012/11/26/worlds_quietest_room_will_drive_you_crazy.html

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/04/03/daily-circuit-quiet-room
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World's Quietest Room Will Drive You Crazy (Original Post) HarveyDarkey Mar 2013 OP
Those shelves or whatever they are Kingofalldems Mar 2013 #1
They are acoustic baffles Xipe Totec Mar 2013 #11
noise regardless RILib Mar 2013 #38
Just stare at the PHOTO of the room for a minute... Volaris Mar 2013 #43
yes RILib Mar 2013 #50
Ugh. The lighting alone would drive me crazy. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #52
Why not just take a nap? Logical Mar 2013 #2
Not sure union_maid Mar 2013 #4
LOL, good point. Might freak me out. n-t Logical Mar 2013 #5
It looks like you have to sit in that uncomfortable chair. RILib Mar 2013 #51
Simple solution. KamaAina Mar 2013 #3
LOL, +1 n-t Logical Mar 2013 #6
That's what I was thinking. RC Mar 2013 #33
It would be a great place to read a book ... surrealAmerican Mar 2013 #7
Anyone remember sensory deprivation tanks from 30 years ago or so? Cirque du So-What Mar 2013 #8
Floatation Tanks - still amazing CincyDem Mar 2013 #13
Why? What happens if you shave? Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #25
Salt Water + Shaving nicks, even microscopic = WTF level pain :-) CincyDem Mar 2013 #27
LOL, oh, I hadn't thought of that. Good point. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #31
Believe me when I tell you... CincyDem Mar 2013 #37
LMAO! Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #48
LMAO! Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #49
I'm guessing the salt water doesn't feel too good. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #28
Yeah, hadn't thought of that. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #32
sensory deprivation can be theraputic for people with sensory overolad issues liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #14
I always wanted to try one of those LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #15
That's what I thought of, too. randome Mar 2013 #16
Altered States sylvi Mar 2013 #20
Not to mention Cirque du So-What Mar 2013 #22
LOL sylvi Mar 2013 #23
THANK YOU! so few remember that. jazzimov Mar 2013 #30
I had some of my best meditations felix_numinous Mar 2013 #29
Having tinnitus, this quiet room would bother me. Liberal In Texas Mar 2013 #9
That was my thought exactly. I bet mine is so loud other people could hear it in a room like that. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2013 #17
I also have tinnitus and absolute quiet reallly bothers me. RebelOne Mar 2013 #21
try an air purifier instead of pills RILib Mar 2013 #39
Right -- you're referring to "white noise" -- very good for sleep... Hekate Mar 2013 #45
I want one! Newest Reality Mar 2013 #10
me too. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #12
My tinnitus donco Mar 2013 #18
Yep, there are no quiet rooms to be found for us. Mnemosyne Mar 2013 #41
I'd like to sit in that Jenoch Mar 2013 #19
I kind of want to try it Tien1985 Mar 2013 #24
I wonder how a Marshall 100 watt stack would sound in there aint_no_life_nowhere Mar 2013 #26
There always got to be someone to that wants defeat the purpose of cool stuff. RC Mar 2013 #35
Actually PD Turk Mar 2013 #56
Good to know RC Mar 2013 #57
I have been in one of these rooms before IDemo Mar 2013 #34
Only a matter of time before they start using this as a form of interrogation? dorksied Mar 2013 #36
wonder if it would give me a break RedstDem Mar 2013 #40
I'd be willing to try it for 15 minutes derby378 Mar 2013 #42
STOP YELLING AT ME! pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #44
Are they sure the room is not telling people what it wants done? Rex Mar 2013 #46
Please don't give Bush et al anymore ideas. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #47
No need...it's driving me crazy from here. limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #53
I'm so envious. I want my own quiet room Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #54
Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie NightWatcher Mar 2013 #55
that would be a great place to have sex snooper2 Mar 2013 #58
The US will use this as torture most likely Tabasco_Dave Mar 2013 #59
Turn the lights off and it'd get down to a couple of minutes before insanity...... cliffordu Mar 2013 #60

Xipe Totec

(44,554 posts)
11. They are acoustic baffles
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:50 PM
Mar 2013

designed to trap rather than reflect sound.

A bat would go batshit crazy in there.

Volaris

(11,677 posts)
43. Just stare at the PHOTO of the room for a minute...
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:02 AM
Mar 2013

lol I would think the walls were trying to eat me.

But seriously, I would bet even money I could spend an even hour in there, and be ok when the timer went off. NOTHING better than spending time alone with my own thoughts. I HATE noise.

Disclaimer: After I KNEW my hour was up, and no one had come to open the door, eventually a decision would be made that it was time to leave. At that point, I have NO DOUBT I would kill myself tearing the walls down.

 

RILib

(862 posts)
50. yes
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 09:13 PM
Mar 2013

I find it hard to believe quiet would bother me. Our world is so darn noisy. And televisions everywhere even in places you'd think would be quiet.

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
4. Not sure
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:40 PM
Mar 2013

I can usually nap anywhere, but maybe the sound of your own organs functioning would keep you awake? Could be disturbing.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
33. That's what I was thinking.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 07:45 PM
Mar 2013

My hearing is bad enough I'd like to try it. I like quiet anyway.

surrealAmerican

(11,865 posts)
7. It would be a great place to read a book ...
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:43 PM
Mar 2013

... or some other absorbing activity, but just being there with nothing to do would probably be troubling.

Cirque du So-What

(29,697 posts)
8. Anyone remember sensory deprivation tanks from 30 years ago or so?
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:44 PM
Mar 2013

These tanks were filled with a supersaturated solution of water and epsom salts, dark and soundproof. A person would float effortlessly within the chamber and as I recall would begin hallucinating after a short time. They were touted as therapeutic in some way.

CincyDem

(7,388 posts)
13. Floatation Tanks - still amazing
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:55 PM
Mar 2013

One man's opinion - these are great. The one I've used is like an egg with a hydraulic top. About 10-15" of saltwater in the tank at body temp.

Get in. Close the top. Float.

Nothing special for about 30 minutes and then - BANG! It feels like you're floating in space. I think what happens is that you feel evaporative cooling off your body until the humidity in the tank reaches 100%. At this point you lose the sense of any water line.

And then the fun begins. It is pretty weird but it is relaxing (at least for me).

I love these things and you can still find them around some cities. The closest here is Dayton but I'm not sure if they're still in business.

Not for everyone though. I can't pay the wife enough money to even consider it.

Also - if you're going to try this, make sure you don't shave within 24 hours. That's don't shave ANYWHERE. If you do, it won't be fun.

CincyDem

(7,388 posts)
27. Salt Water + Shaving nicks, even microscopic = WTF level pain :-)
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 06:43 PM
Mar 2013

Now that I read my post, however, I may have been unclear.

Don't shave before. My post might have implied don't shave after...whoops.

CincyDem

(7,388 posts)
37. Believe me when I tell you...
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 08:23 PM
Mar 2013


...you only "didn't think about that" once. And from women say, if they mistakenly shaved their legs (or other parts)...well...it's so painful the result is generational memory. That's when your grandkids know it but they don't know why. lol

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
32. Yeah, hadn't thought of that.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 06:47 PM
Mar 2013

Thought something like hair would do something with the evaporation. Oh hell, I was making it out to be more complicated than it really was. LOL

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
14. sensory deprivation can be theraputic for people with sensory overolad issues
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:56 PM
Mar 2013

such as autistic people. When my son was little he use to go to his room and wrap a blanket around his head and lay on his bed. I have always loved to be under water or high in air. It's not without sound but there is a lot less of it and I find it very peaceful.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. That's what I thought of, too.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:56 PM
Mar 2013

I can't believe many would have an unpleasant experience in an anechoic chamber. Hallucinations can't always be bad.

I guess not cutting off ALL sensory input makes the difference.

 

sylvi

(813 posts)
20. Altered States
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 06:06 PM
Mar 2013

Neat little sci-fi flick on that subject from the '80s starring William Hurt and Blair Brown. Imagine sensory deprivation with a good little dose of hallucinogen thrown in.

Cirque du So-What

(29,697 posts)
22. Not to mention
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 06:10 PM
Mar 2013

the risk of devolving into an early hominid or an amorphous blob of protoplasm.

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
30. THANK YOU! so few remember that.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 06:46 PM
Mar 2013

Granted, the movie was a dramatization - but this only proves what we already knew.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
29. I had some of my best meditations
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 06:44 PM
Mar 2013

in a flotation tank back in the 80s--and have been looking for these ever since, they seem to have fallen out of popularity. I thought they were very helpful when I was going through a very stressful time--one session was 45 minutes but you could let yourself out anytime. You could play music in there or choose to have music come on for the last 5 minutes or so. It was very cool.

The title to this article is misleading--of course-- duh--extreme sensory deprivation is used as torture--so of course there must be optimum time limits. It makes all the difference if you have control and can let yourself out when you are done!

Liberal In Texas

(16,253 posts)
9. Having tinnitus, this quiet room would bother me.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:46 PM
Mar 2013

I first noticed I had tinnitus when a museum I went to had a room that was set up to be real quiet like this one. In the passing years, it's gotten worse I hear it all the time now and worse when it's very quiet.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
17. That was my thought exactly. I bet mine is so loud other people could hear it in a room like that.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 05:59 PM
Mar 2013

Oh, I know it's a nerve thing and not really sound per se, but damn... I'd go batshit crazy in a room like that with my tinnitus.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
21. I also have tinnitus and absolute quiet reallly bothers me.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 06:10 PM
Mar 2013

I must have some background sound such as the TV on all day. And I have to take sleeping pills at night to get to sleep.

 

RILib

(862 posts)
39. try an air purifier instead of pills
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 08:34 PM
Mar 2013

I have one on 24/7 due to lung stuff and, cross fingers, I never even think about tinnitus any more. Mine is a Honeywell 17005, if I remember correctly, being too lazy to get up and look.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
45. Right -- you're referring to "white noise" -- very good for sleep...
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:08 AM
Mar 2013

... and concentration issues. A college roomie of mine pinned a plastic bag to the front of a regular fan to simulate white noise when she was trying to sleep. Whoosh.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
19. I'd like to sit in that
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 06:04 PM
Mar 2013

chamber, just to see what it's like. I don't think I'd stay in there for anywhere near 30 or 45 minutes though. I used to have a recording studio for voice-overs. That little room was stifling if you tried to stay in it too long. It had no vents and the walls and ceiling were covered with the sound absorbing baffles. It did have a window however. It made your ears feel plugged up unless you started to talk, and of course that was the point of the room in the first place, to speak into the microphone.

Tien1985

(923 posts)
24. I kind of want to try it
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 06:36 PM
Mar 2013

It'd be interesting to hear your organs functioning. I don't know if I could do it for long, but I'd like to try.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
35. There always got to be someone to that wants defeat the purpose of cool stuff.
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 07:58 PM
Mar 2013

Interesting idea though.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
56. Actually
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 11:09 PM
Mar 2013

It's one of the uses of an anechoic chamber. In the world of guitar amp modeling, anechoic chambers play an important role. Being able to measure an amp's response absent any reflections or other environmental influences helps to create a more accurate model of the amp's sonic characteristics.



http://www.bossus.com/boss_users_group/article.php?ArticleId=1319

Don't know if they blasted out Foxy Lady while it was in there though

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
34. I have been in one of these rooms before
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 07:53 PM
Mar 2013

Likely not quite as virtually quiet as the one in the story, but a bit unnerving anyway. Speaking was an odd experience, your voice sounded completely flat.

dorksied

(348 posts)
36. Only a matter of time before they start using this as a form of interrogation?
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 08:17 PM
Mar 2013

Leave someone in this room for 20 minutes, come back and tell them that all they have to do to leave the room is tell them what they wanna know? I can see that happening... scary.

derby378

(30,262 posts)
42. I'd be willing to try it for 15 minutes
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 08:51 PM
Mar 2013

What I really enjoy, however, is when you get out in the middle of nowhere and you can't hear any sounds of technology or man anywhere. I find those moments to be sublime. Makes the hustle-bustle of the city a little easier to take.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
44. STOP YELLING AT ME!
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:07 AM
Mar 2013

I just came out of the World's Quietest Room and I'm feeling a little crazy right now!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
46. Are they sure the room is not telling people what it wants done?
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:16 AM
Mar 2013

Kinda looks like a Klingon torture chamber.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
54. I'm so envious. I want my own quiet room
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 09:42 PM
Mar 2013

to mellow out and get away from the outside world in.

Tabasco_Dave

(1,259 posts)
59. The US will use this as torture most likely
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 12:27 AM
Mar 2013

The response will be " it's only a quiet room" just like "it's only water".

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
60. Turn the lights off and it'd get down to a couple of minutes before insanity......
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 03:46 AM
Mar 2013

Like being in and unending abyss.....

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