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The "History" Channel (Original Post) HarveyDarkey Mar 2013 OP
It's a shame what has happened to History, H2, Science, and the like. Archaic Mar 2013 #1
yeah at this point it is even hard to watch Discovery and Science. They are very poorly produced. liberal_at_heart Mar 2013 #2
The Learning Channel is even worse. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #3
It hasn't been the learning channel since the early/mid-90s. sakabatou Mar 2013 #8
Yep. UnrepentantLiberal Mar 2013 #27
TLC is literally a freak show, "MY Strange Addiction", "The Duggars 19 Kids and Counting" and who Raine Mar 2013 #24
"The Duggars: 19 Unfortunately Budding Creationist Theocratic Bigots and Counting." HughBeaumont Mar 2013 #41
TLC became The Loser Channel liberal N proud Mar 2013 #29
And the Romney wanted to stop funding PBS. PBS - It's our only hope. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2013 #17
Agreed Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #25
CNN Headline News is the one that kills me. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #40
Headline News and The Weather Channel. Archaic Mar 2013 #43
You can't blame em! They took one look at Fox P&L's and said "hey, that works!". OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2013 #4
How can this crap get worse ? olddots Mar 2013 #5
It is for entertianment purposes only Rex Mar 2013 #6
If that guy's hair doesn't tell you they think it's a joke, what would? Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #13
He looks stoned out of his gord. Rex Mar 2013 #14
My neighbor is convinced the reptilian "Ananukies" enslaved the earth Zorra Mar 2013 #7
D'oh! sakabatou Mar 2013 #9
That is true. Rex Mar 2013 #12
Awesome! !! Kurovski Mar 2013 #26
30%cool 50%fuckers20%wizard Rex Mar 2013 #54
AWWW!!! I just shit my pants!!!! Kurovski Mar 2013 #56
Are you sure he wasn't watching "Dr. Who" on Cleita Mar 2013 #35
So when I actually finish the novel nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #42
wait, iamthebandfanman Mar 2013 #10
crap! they screwed with the vikings?! i've been taping it. haven't watched yet. eom ellenfl Mar 2013 #38
They went from being the Hitler Channel... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #11
In between marions ghost Mar 2013 #50
Actually, I'm enjoying the "Vikings" series but it is fictionalized. Cleita Mar 2013 #15
it is only a vehicle for christian propaganda. wait until the vikings abandon their gods... on point Mar 2013 #18
Yep. Iggo Mar 2013 #23
Actually, they only had one rape on a raid so far. Cleita Mar 2013 #36
I was talkin about when Ragnar and Lagertha... Iggo Mar 2013 #57
He refused and they said it was fine. Cleita Mar 2013 #59
As long as they stick to the historical background Cleita Mar 2013 #33
Well....they did... Marrah_G Mar 2013 #46
According to the Sagas, Ragnar didn't convert although he became Cleita Mar 2013 #47
I see Marrah_G Mar 2013 #48
In a way I'm glad it's not. If it were HBO, they would be Cleita Mar 2013 #49
I'm liking Vikings as well. bluedigger Mar 2013 #19
Yes, I like Lagertha too. She's one of the boys and takes no shit from them. Cleita Mar 2013 #34
I am enjoying Vikings Marrah_G Mar 2013 #45
Well, there's only so much history to be had in a season. defacto7 Mar 2013 #16
did you see the history channel/ancient aliens south park episode? fizzgig Mar 2013 #20
Murdoch owns The History Channel Turborama Mar 2013 #21
I did not know that. I knew it was *shit*; Smarmie Doofus Mar 2013 #30
nah, the koch brothers have the 'influencing education' franchise. eom ellenfl Mar 2013 #39
Actually, I think it's owned by A&E, who are in turn owned by The Mouse. nt Codeine Mar 2013 #31
when did that happen? shanti Mar 2013 #55
I have to admit that it has become more entertaining Live and Learn Mar 2013 #22
And that's a problem union_maid Mar 2013 #28
I like America Unearthed Kingofalldems Mar 2013 #32
I'm not sure what the problem here is el_bryanto Mar 2013 #37
Add HGTV to that list. HughBeaumont Mar 2013 #44
Yeah, and don't forget about the pawn shop crap. vanbean Mar 2013 #51
I've come to the conclusion Lindsay Mar 2013 #52
Yep! +1,000 smirkymonkey Mar 2013 #53
Two words guys Coyotl Mar 2013 #58

Archaic

(273 posts)
1. It's a shame what has happened to History, H2, Science, and the like.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:54 AM
Mar 2013

Discovery, Bravo, PlanetGreen, etc.

Those reality shows, and baloney documentaries must be cheap, enough that they can take a small audience. Why else would it be HOURS and HOURS of that crap?

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
2. yeah at this point it is even hard to watch Discovery and Science. They are very poorly produced.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 12:56 AM
Mar 2013

Raine

(31,179 posts)
24. TLC is literally a freak show, "MY Strange Addiction", "The Duggars 19 Kids and Counting" and who
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 04:02 AM
Mar 2013

can forget "The Palin's Alaska".

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
41. "The Duggars: 19 Unfortunately Budding Creationist Theocratic Bigots and Counting."
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:16 PM
Mar 2013

The worst thing you can do to your children is poison their minds with hate.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
25. Agreed
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 04:42 AM
Mar 2013

I can only occasionally watch any of the programing on these channels. It is truly too bad what has been done to them.

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,499 posts)
40. CNN Headline News is the one that kills me.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:10 PM
Mar 2013

During Ted Turner's heyday, it used to be a quick way to get all the days headlines in national/international news, business, sports, etc.

It's since devolved to celebrity gossip and sensationalist criminal trials.

Archaic

(273 posts)
43. Headline News and The Weather Channel.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:17 PM
Mar 2013

I used to be able to get everything I needed in 20m.

Now it's all gone.

 

OffWithTheirHeads

(10,337 posts)
4. You can't blame em! They took one look at Fox P&L's and said "hey, that works!".
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:31 AM
Mar 2013

You can just pull stuff outa yer ass and the American public is so stupid that you can make lots of money! Yee haw! Proven model! Been working since tent revivals.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
5. How can this crap get worse ?
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:39 AM
Mar 2013

American Chopper , Ancient Aliens , Area 51 exposed etc etc the media barons are despicable dirt bags .

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
6. It is for entertianment purposes only
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:42 AM
Mar 2013

Like Foxnews should not be mistaken for real news. CNN either. They are for entertainment purposes only. Don't take my word for it, ask GaRLeg - Supreme Lord ruler over Earth.

"History Channel good, aliens good, bible good, 5 dollar foot longs at subway good."

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
14. He looks stoned out of his gord.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:03 AM
Mar 2013

I bet during the entire interview, all he could think about was a sandwich.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
7. My neighbor is convinced the reptilian "Ananukies" enslaved the earth
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:44 AM
Mar 2013

scores of centuries ago, along with a whole bunch of other wacked out stuff.

He says it's definitely true because he saw it on the History Channel.

For real, I'm not joking.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
12. That is true.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:01 AM
Mar 2013

I have documented photos;

"Took this photo at great personal peril"

Here is one of their strange alien houses is my guess and maybe a pet dog-thing.

Kurovski

(34,657 posts)
26. Awesome! !!
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 05:00 AM
Mar 2013

I totally bet that's Fred Flintstone's time-machine!!

Dude! Sell these to someone, you'll be rich forever. You could like get your own show!

How did you do this? Did aliens help you? Were they cool or fuckers? Awesome!!!!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
54. 30%cool 50%fuckers20%wizard
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 12:37 AM
Mar 2013

The wizard stuff was awesome. They have better CGI.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
35. Are you sure he wasn't watching "Dr. Who" on
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 09:12 AM
Mar 2013

BBC and thought it was The History Channel? On DirectTV, the channel for BBC is 264 and The History Channel 269. He could have put one channel on and thought he had the other. It's still pretty dumb of him.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
42. So when I actually finish the novel
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:17 PM
Mar 2013

that actually has that partly as a premise, he will believe it is a history book?

Now that is scary.

Ok, not reptilians, but an advanced civilization...

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
10. wait,
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 01:50 AM
Mar 2013

you mean everything in the bible isn't historical fact?
and that the show Vikings isn't based on some ancient text that was discovered ?

surely everything i see on pawn stars is real...

stop destroying my made up world that's reinforced by the name of a corporate tv channel!
noooooooooooo!

Maybe they'll change their name to "Hystory channel" soon :p

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
50. In between
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:59 PM
Mar 2013

it was the Mayan Apocalypse Channel--leading up to that critical day, Dec 21, 2012.........

I look at the Hysterical Channel as evidence of mass societal mental breakdown. Living a dystopian nightmare.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
15. Actually, I'm enjoying the "Vikings" series but it is fictionalized.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:04 AM
Mar 2013

The rest of what they offer is trash though.

on point

(2,506 posts)
18. it is only a vehicle for christian propaganda. wait until the vikings abandon their gods...
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:49 AM
Mar 2013

Iggo

(49,928 posts)
23. Yep.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:52 AM
Mar 2013

They're already starting to push the evil barbarian sexually promiscuous Vikings versus the poor chaste virtuous Christians.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a conversion for Ragnar and his wife in the near future.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
36. Actually, they only had one rape on a raid so far.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 09:18 AM
Mar 2013

And Ragnar's wife Lagertha kills him when he rapes a Saxon woman and then tries to rape her when she tries to stop him. We know there was much more. One of the things you never see in the horse and sword movies is the blood spattered all over the warriors. In this, they are covered with it which makes it more realistic.

Iggo

(49,928 posts)
57. I was talkin about when Ragnar and Lagertha...
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 01:08 AM
Mar 2013

...invited the priest to come to bed with them and he was all no I love god instead.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
59. He refused and they said it was fine.
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 02:43 AM
Mar 2013

Why was that a problem for you?

On edit: I took more offense with Ragnar's bro, Rollo effing the slave girl before they went on their first raid, however, they weren't unique in this way. Slave women have been sexually abused throughout history and including ours.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
33. As long as they stick to the historical background
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:46 AM
Mar 2013

Last edited Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:41 PM - Edit history (1)

because the Vikings did abandon their gods. In the first episode, Ragnar seems to be having a vision of Odin and interprets it as a sign he should sail west. However, the Christian monk, they took as a slave in the first episode, seems to be having doubts about his God as of the most recent one. He prays to his God saying how alone and abandoned he feels. So we'll see if they capitulate and make it into a Christian slob fest. Then I won't watch anymore.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
47. According to the Sagas, Ragnar didn't convert although he became
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:41 PM
Mar 2013

friends with one of the Christian Northumbrian kings. Here's the wiki version;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnar_Lodbrok

However, it took 400 years from his time for the Scandanavians to become Christians.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
48. I see
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:44 PM
Mar 2013

Thank you!

I'm still really enjoying the show. Seems like it might have been more of an hbo type series though.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
49. In a way I'm glad it's not. If it were HBO, they would be
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:57 PM
Mar 2013

throwing in all kinds of gratuitous sex and violence. We have Game of Thrones for that. They have to stick more to how the vikings ran their society and how they functioned in spite of being violent barbarians when the time was right for them. The raid scenes are relatively calm except when they are resisted or met by an army. Apparently, Ragnar according to the sagas used to tell the victims they wouldn't be harmed if they stayed out of the way of the pillage. If it were HBO every one of those scenes would be a gore and sex feast.

bluedigger

(17,437 posts)
19. I'm liking Vikings as well.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:58 AM
Mar 2013

It's a historical drama with fictional characters and events, but it still fairly accurately portrays the times and cultures in which it is set. I'm sure they get some details wrong but it's a good story.

And Lagertha is the best female lead I've seen in a long time. She's a bad ass.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
34. Yes, I like Lagertha too. She's one of the boys and takes no shit from them.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 08:47 AM
Mar 2013

Also, the twelve year old son is no shrinking violet. He's a fierce little thing.

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
16. Well, there's only so much history to be had in a season.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:29 AM
Mar 2013

After all of the history of the universe has been displayed on TV, there nothing else to do but make stuff up. No one wants to hear the same history, over and over... gotta tweak it and make more history... like the demise of the human race after our brain rots from lack of use.


(sarc)

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
21. Murdoch owns The History Channel
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:07 AM
Mar 2013

And the Discovery, National Geographic channels.

That says it all.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
30. I did not know that. I knew it was *shit*;
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 07:06 AM
Mar 2013

... and I knew it had nothing to do w. "history"; but I didn't know Murdoch had taken it over.

Well... as long as he doesn't start to buy influence w. actual "education"...... then we're safe, I'm thinking.

Our liberal Democratic public officials like President Obama and Sec of Education Duncan would *never* let something like *that* happen.

So let's all go back to sleep.

shanti

(21,799 posts)
55. when did that happen?
Tue Mar 26, 2013, 12:45 AM
Mar 2013

because nat geo never used to be the bible-toting, warmongering channel that it is now.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
22. I have to admit that it has become more entertaining
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:23 AM
Mar 2013

but one would have to be a dolt to not view it very skeptically. Then again, considering how easily Americans have been misled (in the not to distant past and possibly forever) their new quasi-scientific\historic entertainment might be quite dangerous.

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
28. And that's a problem
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 06:23 AM
Mar 2013

The crappy reality shows are one thing. Who cares, really. But the pseudo-documentaries on channels that have names like History, The Learning Channel, Discovery, etc. are going to be believed by a certain number of people.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
37. I'm not sure what the problem here is
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 09:26 AM
Mar 2013

Is it that they are putting out biased right wing versions of history?

Is it that they are essentially pro-war because they tend to focus on WW2 which was the last "good" war?

Is it that they aren't really doing history at all, because other programs are more profitable?

If it's the last - well, can you blame them? They aren't PBS - they aren't a non-profit. They are trying to make money, and, sadly, if it turns out that putting on programs about aliens or hoarders or whatever make more money, than that's what they have to do. It's more our fault for preferring those sorts of programs.

Bryant

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
44. Add HGTV to that list.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 02:21 PM
Mar 2013

Watched something the other day about house hunting - the couple looked at a pretty decent & spacious starter house with nothing glaringly wrong and had literally nothing good to say about any room in it. I'm saying "Gee, what's this one called? Rich White People Problems?"

vanbean

(990 posts)
51. Yeah, and don't forget about the pawn shop crap.
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:07 PM
Mar 2013

Don't you just love watching family be ugly to each other.

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
52. I've come to the conclusion
Mon Mar 25, 2013, 03:10 PM
Mar 2013

that the target demographic for all those shows is "people with more money than brains."

Of which there would seem to be an unending supply.

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