“I think Hillary wants very much to see a woman president in her lifetime,”there’s only one person

[graham4anything]

for the continuation of President Obama's agenda in 2017 and 2021
and may Joe Biden also run to flank Hillary, and take away any remaining oxygen for anyone else. I would not mind Joe as VP for at least one of Hillary's two terms.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/us/politics/a-hillary-clinton-in-transition-has-rivals-and-donors-frozen-in-place.html?_r=1&&pagewanted=print

A Clinton in ‘Transition’ Keeps Opponents and Donors Frozen
By JIM RUTENBERG


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her closest political allies offer views about why she is more likely to run than not. “I think she wants very much to see a woman president in her lifetime,” Mr. Ickes said. “If you look at the landscape right now, there’s only one person who has a real shot at that.”

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“I’ve talked to a number of donors who are willing to write whatever they’re permitted to write to a presidential campaign, and certainly to write very big money to any sort of ‘super PAC’ that would be supportive of her,” said Harold M. Ickes, a senior adviser to Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 campaign and the president last year of the super PAC that supported President Obama, Priorities USA Action. “They’re just saying to me, ‘Whenever she’s ready, we’re ready.’ ”


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Mr. Clinton, ever the campaigner, has indicated that he is bullish on a run by his wife. Others are urging her to hurry up lest she find the most coveted party donors committed to a potential rival like Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr.

When asked if Mrs. Clinton’s decision would affect Mr. Biden’s own deliberations about the race, Mr. Biden’s longtime strategist, Joe Slade White, answered, “Of course it would.” But, he said, “That doesn’t mean it would make him not do it.”

[Mass]

1. There are plenty of women who could run and win.

Of course, Hillary is the most prominent of all, but it is insulting to women to state she is the only one who is able to win in the next 20 years.

I see the NYTimes continues to write idiotic articles based on non substance. They were wrong so many times that who knows, they may be right this time. All they have is a couple of quotes from people who want Hillary (or Biden) to run. Talk about vacuity. Sadly, this is going to be our standard for the next 2 years. They have to write articles, so they just put words on paper.

BTW, I am not convinced that Biden will run either. He has been running for political office the last 40 years. Does he really want to be doing that up to 2014?

[graham4anything]

2. What's great is that it keeps the money to anyone else frozen because everyone knows the truth

and remember, Elizabeth Warren voted for Ronald Reagan and Bush41
(though I don't hold that against her as I don't carry grudges against current Democratic office holders.(or those that caucus with them or back their causes).

I hope Elizabeth Warren, who will be almost as old as Joe Biden during her first term, doesn't want to only be a one term senior senator and retire. I would like to see her in the senate as long as Frank Lautenberg is.

Ageism is a bad thing

If Joe isn't the VP for HIllary45, I would love to see Janet Napolitano who will bring in the southwest and help with Texas as she is beloved in her home state and the surrounding ones.

[Whisp]

3. I would love to see a 'capable and honest' first woman president, and Hillary is not that.

She is a hawk and an astonishing liar. (Tuzla? )

And she's not nearly 'all that and a bag of chips' as her surrogates, that are spread all over the media, insist she is. Once you start looking for information on her as SoS you see a lot of bad shit done under cover of her protective, slobbering media.

[graham4anything]

4. Hillary was the best SOS of all time. It will be decades before anyone comes close

[Whisp]

5. can you give me some of her accomplishments?

I hear a lot of generalities about her 'greatness' but when it comes to getting specifics, people don't answer. I don't think you are that sort, graham. So if you could, please let us know what her accomplishments have been in her four years as SoS. Not being snarky, just asking an honest question that no one else that is in her camp for Pres., will touch. They just say, go google it yourself, or something of that sort.

[graham4anything]

6. First woman President, #45, elected 2016, reelected 2020.

The best thing was that Hillary45 didn't whine, didn't quit (like say Kucinich and Feingold and Bill Bradley did after they lost) didn't leave the arena, but like Ted Kennedy, stayed and fought for all good things for the rest of their lives in the public sector.

Takes alot of courage and guts to do what hillary did.

She got my vote the old fashioned way, she earned it

and there is no point in making a list to people who do not wish to hear it.

People see what they want to see, and disregard the rest (Paul Simon(c).

[Whisp]

7. That says a Lot! thanks, graham.

There is no list.

[SheilaT]

8. Am I the only person here

who thinks that there are actually other women out there besides Hillary Clinton who might possibly run for President? Am I the only person who thinks that the drumbeat of Biden/Clinton (or Clinton/Biden) is extremely unhelpful because it shuts out any and all other possibilities?

Not looking beyond the politicians of the last two or three decades is a sure recipe for disaster.

[davidn3600]

9. It's because everyone thinks Hillary or Biden are shoo-ins to win

[SheilaT]

10. Yep.l Just like she was

in 2008.

I also like to point out that in 1989 hardly anyone outside of Arkansas had heard of Bill Clinton. George Bush was so obviously a shoo-in to win re-election that every Democrat who was a realistic candidate for 1992 simply didn't run.

And a lot of people hate to hear this, but Hillary and Joe are both too old. Really. And I'm only a year younger than Hillary, so it's not as though I'm too young to get it. I'm old enough to get it.

[1-Old-Man]

12. You are far from the only one who feels that way

[MrSlayer]

11. I don't want a woman just to have a woman.

I want an actual progressive, I don't care what their gender is. And, sorry, but Hillary is as third way "centrist" as you can get. Bill was no prize and she won't be either.

But none of this really matters, it's not like we actually have a say in it. If the owners want her, the owners will get her.

[treestar]

13. Biden will be 74, whereas Hillary will be 69

Biden would be President from age 74 to 78 or 82.

Hillary it would be 69 to 73 or 77.