Great new law in New Jersey(wish it went further) NO tanning salons for 15 and under

[graham4anything]

this is a great first step. These should really be banned totally for underage, as should tatoos and ear piercings for that matter are akin to the gun and bullet issue for adults.
But skin cancer is on the rise, and the types gotten by tanning salons are some of the deadliest.
All other states should do the same.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/06/nj_senate_committee_approves_t_3.html

TRENTON — The Senate health committee approved a bill today that would ban kids 15 and younger from using tanning salons, in a move that appeased salons owners who warned that a competing Assembly version prohibiting all minors would put them out of business.

The amended bill bans kids 15 and younger from using tanning salons, which would raise the age a year from the current law. Parents would have to participate in the initial consultation before the sessions begin, and be present for any tanning session purchases, according to the bill sponsored by Senate Majority Leader Loretta Weinberg (D-Bergen) and Sen. Robert Singer (R-Ocean).

--snip--
Teens old enough to tan would not be able to visit the salon on consecutive days - a rule requiring salons employees to record all appointments in the client’s personal file. Salon owners who do not comply with the law would be fined $1,000 for the first offense, $2,000 for a second offense, and a five-day license suspension for a third offense.
--snip--
Longtime cancer nurse practitioner and the mother of a teenage girl, Mary Vecchio, had urged the committee to drop the compromise and keep the tan ban for anyone under 18, as the Assembly approved last month. She said teenagers don't have the maturity to make decisions that could affect them for the rest of their lives, and rejected the idea that a tanning bed is a safe way to treat acne or psoriasis.

[onehandle]

1. Slippery slope, nanny state, etc... This is exactly what they did right before Stalin took over...

[randome]

40. I wanted to post that!

[grump3r]

2. Well no...

Piercings and tatoos should not be banned for adults. If it's not your body, then it's not your problem. There is this thing called personal freedom.

Now I agree minors aren't mature enough for some things, but some piercings (ears) are fine with parental permission.

[ZOB]

3. Why not just mandate SPF 50 baths before going outside

No tanning, no tattoos, no piercings...anything else you'd like to ban while you're at it?

Tell you what, make whatever decisions you want for YOUR body and let the rest of us make our own.

[davidpdx]

4. Most of them will just switch to gels, lotions or spray on tanning

I'm betting those would be easy to get.

[Comrade_McKenzie]

5. I have been with you on some things...

But you just jumped the shark.

[graham4anything]

41. I edited post and deleted the references some didn't like. The OP article is what is important.

[darkangel218]

6. Tanning is good for people with Vit D deficiency who have trouble absorbing it

It's also good for depression/anxiety, especially in the winter months. I'm not sure how I feel about this.

[Maine-ah]

7. tattoos and piercing infections are a

"nationwide epidemic"?

Back that up - post some valid research please.

Are you also suggesting that you think body modification (tats and piercings) should be banned for adults?

[Maine-ah]

9. so you have no research to show us

that body modification infections are a nationwide epidemic.

and aside from you answering my question on body modifications, you went in a completely different direction with the rest of your reply.

[Maine-ah]

11. you said

"These should really be banned totally, as should tatoos (sic) and ear piercings for that matter with infections from tatoos (sic) and ear piercings at a nationwide epidemic. "

We all know skin cancer kills, and Maine just banned minors from tanning as well. But if you're going to post things like what I have quoted from above, you should back it up. You claimed this as fact, now you're back tracking and claiming this as opinion?

[graham4anything]

13. I guess George Bailey should have not been stopped Clarence on the bridge.

Prove that a 12 year old never got a major ear infection from piercing
I know family members that got very ill because of bad piercings (by reputable places).
Those underage should not be doing this. Adults of course, as witness by all the
rebels who hate nannies can do what they want

It should be obvious this was about those underage, as the topic itself is about that.
It was suppose to be older, but the
I guess George Bailey should have not been stopped Clarence on the bridge.

and underage kids really should refrain from spur of the moment tattoos.
That name they tattoo might just be very embarrassing five years later
Having Justin Bieber's name tattoo'd will look silly when one is an adult

[Maine-ah]

23. so anecdotal evidence

is now a "nationwide epidemic" - and the only thing that was obvious about it relating to underage was the article that was posted - the commentary you posted was not.

It's not legal for underage kids to get tattoos. Nor is it legal for them to get pierced with out parental permission.

roll around laughing all you want...but so far you have nothing to back up your claims -

[Maine-ah]

29. I have no problem with the article.

The article doesn't mention anything about piercing or tattoo infections. You're the one who brought that up - there's no confusion on my end.

[Cal Carpenter]

33. You mistake uninformed opinion as fact

as well as garbled nonsense for logical debate.

[graham4anything]

38. edited the oriignal post as of course, the followups were a distractions to hide the OP

edited as such-
this is a great first step. These should really be banned totally for underage, as should tatoos and ear piercings for that matter are akin to the gun and bullet issue for adults.
But skin cancer is on the rise, and the types gotten by tanning salons are some of the deadliest.

[hobbit709]

27. How many times are you going to bring up the George Bailey routine?

you seem to apply that every time someone doubts you.

[premium]

32. You said that infections from tatoos and piercings were a national epidemic,

and when called on to provide proof, you come up with this George Bailey crap?

So, now I'll ask you, do you have any proof that infections from tatoos and piercings is a national epidemic?
And please, without going off on a tangent.
Just a simple yes or no, if yes, then please provide a link.
Thanks.

[graham4anything]

35. It's an opinion. Stop barking orders and sighttracking with minutia and citations

That is the #1 tactic of the NRA
the constant minutia, splitting of words

BTW, so, you are saying and are you saying that George Bailey should jump?

It would of course have changed the whole movie, but then Capra had a dark side I suppose.

[Cal Carpenter]

36. It's not an opinion, it is a falsehood

"I don't like ear piercings" = OPINION

"Ear piercings are dangerous to teens on an epidemic level" = FALSEHOOD

Btw, George Bailey is a fictional character, just want to make sure you are clear on that.

[premium]

37. You didn't write it as an opinion,

you stated it as fact.

I could care less about George Bailey and does George Baily, or for that matter, guns, bullets, the NRA, have to do with this thread?

[Cal Carpenter]

12. Please tell me more about this nationwide epidemic

re: tattoos and piercings.

With links.


I won't hold my breath.

Thanks.

[MineralMan]

14. You sorta stepped in it, there.

Yes, tanning for minors should be either banned or require parents to be there and full disclosure of risks.

Tattoos are already highly regulated for minors, and prohibited in many places.

However, ear piercings? Really? Infections an epidemic? I don't think so.

[graham4anything]

15. Google ear infections kids and 894,000 plus come up including this one-

http://www.aboutkidshealth.ca/En/HealthAZ/ConditionsandDiseases/SkinHairandNailDisorders/Pages/Pierced-Ear-Infection.aspx

Causes of pierced ear infections
The most common cause of pierced ear infections is the introduction of germs, found on the surface of the skin, into the piercing site. This can happen when unsterile equipment is used during the piercing, or if the piercing is not cleaned regularly at home. Also, touching the new piercing with dirty fingers or sharing earrings can lead to an infection.

Other causes of pierced ear infections may include:
earrings clasped too tightly
a piece of the earring becoming embedded in the earlobe
an allergic reaction to inexpensive earrings made with nickel
An allergic reaction (contact dermatitis) to nickel is common among children and teenagers. Signs of an allergic reaction to nickel may include dry, itchy skin, rash, or blisters. Skin irritated by an allergic reaction to nickel is more likely to become infected so make sure your child’s initial earrings are made from 14-karat gold or stainless steel

[Cal Carpenter]

16. Google monkey butt and you get 6.6 million hits

This does not constitute scientific research.

And your link is just an info page from a Canadian health site. It doesn't even have statistics on it.

It has nothing to do with this alleged 'nationwide epidemic' you claim exists.

[graham4anything]

17. It's immaterial. Guns kill, so do bullets, so do 1560 calorie soda and Twinkies.

I applaud the Democratic NJ people who passed the law, but it did not go far enough.

but 10% of something is better than 100% of nothing, and it will be a nationwide model to stop guns in the streets applied forward.

[Cal Carpenter]

18. Guns? Wait, I thought this was about tanning

and ear piercings.

And tattoos.

So where is evidence of this nationwide tattoo and ear piercing infection epidemic?

[graham4anything]

19. Everything is about the future banning of guns and bullets from the street. Everything

You do realize that don't you?

The best way to get QRS is to make sure you get ABC and the I's dotted and the T's crossed.

Which is why the NRA fights so hard to prevent anything, because they are sharp cookies.

And can read the handwriting Bart Simpson is writing on the wall
ABC=QRS
ABC=QRS

remember what Bing Crosby said "Everybody has an agenda".
and #6 said "That would be telling"

indeed.

[Cal Carpenter]

21. So, tanning and ear piercing laws are really a way to get guns

and bullets off the streets?

I think I forgot to put the LSD in my coffee this morning.

[Maine-ah]

25. ^^^^

[Fla_Democrat]

22. I musta missed the NRA's blast against

tanning salon restrictions. I guess the email spam filter is working.







On a side note.. is anyone taking bets... how can I get in on the action.








Oh, post script.. did Bing Crosby say he was due beer and travel money?

[premium]

34. Wow, you're just....................................

all over the place.
If I read you right, you say banning tatoos and piercings is the way to get guns and bullets off the streets?

Words fail me.

[graham4anything]

39. edited post.

[Tree-Hugger]

24. Right

That's because ear infections are one of the most common illnesses in children. However, many of these 800,000 plus links deal with otitis media, which is what one normally thinks of when discussing ear infections in children. Otitis media is not the same as an infection from piercing. Not even close.

As for the link you quote, it is merely explaining how an infection may occur from a piercing in the ear. It does not give any rates to back up your claim of a nationwide piercing infection epidemic.

[alcibiades_mystery]

20. As Jersey goes on (Gym) Tan (Laundry), so goes the nation

[Fumesucker]

28. Yet another piece of performance art

You are becoming one of the most entertaining posters on DU.

[The Straight Story]

31. You remember the Random Thoughts poster?

[Fumesucker]

42. :-)

[The Straight Story]

43. Well played, forgot about that pic

But oh so appropriate