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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 08:24 PM Apr 2013

Well... It Was Nice While It Lasted...

FAA Implements Flight Restrictions over Mayflower Oil Spill
By: KARK 4 News
Updated: April 3, 2013

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MAYFLOWER, AR -- The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has placed flight restrictions on the airspace over the Mayflower oil spill.

According to FAA.gov, no pilots are to operate any aircraft over the area listing "Hazards" as the type of restriction.

The restrictions were issued shortly after 2:00 Monday afternoon, and are effective "until further notice," according to the website.

Click here to see details of the notice: http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_3_8699.html

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Link: http://arkansasmatters.com/fulltext?nxd_id=650762




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Well... It Was Nice While It Lasted... (Original Post) WillyT Apr 2013 OP
And people wonder, with a straight face, why we need Anonymous and Wikileaks!? villager Apr 2013 #1
Damn straight. pacalo Apr 2013 #4
+1,000 n/t malaise Apr 2013 #11
Great Point! n-t Logical Apr 2013 #19
Yes, you have wonder why they wonder. Imagine if we had an actual news sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #21
Some only pretend to wonder, prefering instead the status quo. Kurovski Apr 2013 #37
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2013 #39
Time to pull out that well-worn Newest Reality Apr 2013 #2
Wow. It's 1984, and I'm young again! Squinch Apr 2013 #3
Only below 1000 ft. MineralMan Apr 2013 #5
Oil execs exempt of course. Not that they'd give a shit. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #6
Not Quite Accurate... Pilotguy Apr 2013 #7
And there may be legitimate reasons for flyovers during the cleanup. randome Apr 2013 #8
"We Know That"... Barely WillyT Apr 2013 #9
You think they won't have helicopters ferrying cleanup equipment in and out? randome Apr 2013 #14
Excellent point..........people here would be pissed to know that no pilot may operate an aircraft.. George II Apr 2013 #26
OFGS! Can this be FUCKING TRUE? I thought this was BUSH Stuff! KoKo Apr 2013 #10
"OFGS!" for sure....no, this isn't bush stuff, it's ROUTINE FAA stuff, and has been for decades..... George II Apr 2013 #27
Uh, no. intheflow Apr 2013 #33
Read up on FAA regulations.... George II Apr 2013 #34
mobile control tower? When they are CLOSING towers across the nation? CBGLuthier Apr 2013 #36
Meh. progressoid Apr 2013 #12
The Protect Corporate Interests administration rides to the rescue yet again. forestpath Apr 2013 #13
What does "corporate interests" have to do with it? George II Apr 2013 #28
Good ... then there will be no obstacles zbdent Apr 2013 #15
So, if 1,000 feet doesn't really prevent info acquisition, why else might the FAA have done this?nt patrice Apr 2013 #16
To clear airspace for cleanup choppers. X_Digger Apr 2013 #29
Thanks. nt patrice Apr 2013 #32
1000 feet is the limit in MANY areas of the country.................no ulterior motive. George II Apr 2013 #30
Thanks. nt patrice Apr 2013 #31
FAA. Cleita Apr 2013 #17
Move along nothing to see here!!!!! Initech Apr 2013 #18
The "hazard" being reduction of Exxon's quarterly bottom line if too many proles see what's happenin Volaris Apr 2013 #20
RC Helicopters with cameras SCVDem Apr 2013 #22
Still loving this change I can believe in. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #23
Who owns the affected areas? JDPriestly Apr 2013 #24
Acme Personal Drones, Inc. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2013 #25
sounds like government cover for the oil fuckers to me spanone Apr 2013 #35
For your SAFETY, of course Blue Owl Apr 2013 #38

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
21. Yes, you have wonder why they wonder. Imagine if we had an actual news
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 10:02 PM
Apr 2013

media? How difficult it would be for Corporations to do what they do and get away with it.

THEY understood that so they bought the media!

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. Time to pull out that well-worn
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 08:27 PM
Apr 2013

cliche once again: Move along folks! There's nothing to see here.

Pilotguy

(438 posts)
7. Not Quite Accurate...
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 08:34 PM
Apr 2013

The TFR or Temporary Flight Restriction says no pilot may operate an aircraft over the area described from the surface to 1,000 feet AGL (Above Ground Level). That's very different than implying pilots may not operate aircraft over the area.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. And there may be legitimate reasons for flyovers during the cleanup.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 08:38 PM
Apr 2013

With camera technology today, a thousand feet is nothing. We can still get good pictures. Not that we need any more. It's a fucking mess there, we already know that.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. You think they won't have helicopters ferrying cleanup equipment in and out?
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 09:16 PM
Apr 2013

It's reasonable to think so, which makes it prudent to restrict commercial airspace from the area.

And if you think I trust Exxon in any of this, you would be mistaken. I actually don't think this neighborhood will be able to recover. A good time to rescind all those tax breaks these companies get.

George II

(67,782 posts)
26. Excellent point..........people here would be pissed to know that no pilot may operate an aircraft..
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:08 PM
Apr 2013

............below 1000 feet over ANY populated area or some other locations in the country. This includes Manhattan, the Statue of Liberty, the White House, etc.

Much ado about nothing, too bad people here are so eager to be negative............as the saying goes, "ignorance is bliss", one wonders why so many DUers are so miserable.

George II

(67,782 posts)
27. "OFGS!" for sure....no, this isn't bush stuff, it's ROUTINE FAA stuff, and has been for decades.....
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:10 PM
Apr 2013

.....1000 feet is the lower limit for LOTS of areas of the country. It's for SAFETY reasons, no more and no less.

Obviously you've never flown an aircraft.

intheflow

(30,207 posts)
33. Uh, no.
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 12:20 AM
Apr 2013

This is media suppression. If air space is safe for flight before a ground disaster, it's safe after. The FAA is part of the government, they could set up a mobile air traffic control on site to assure there were no disasters. It's SOP in war zones. This has far more to do with protecting Exxon than protecting private citizens.

George II

(67,782 posts)
34. Read up on FAA regulations....
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 08:55 AM
Apr 2013

....it has nothing to do with "media suppression". The lower level of flight permissible over populated areas and areas that are going though unusual circumstances is 1000 feet, has been since at least the early 1970s when I first took my flying lessons.

To characterize it as anything other is uninformed and ignorant, plain and simple.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
36. mobile control tower? When they are CLOSING towers across the nation?
Thu Apr 4, 2013, 09:10 AM
Apr 2013

They do not need a mobile control tower. They issued this restriction because that is how the air system works. Pilots are instructed where they can and can not fly and what altitudes they can do so in.

This has nothing to do with media suppression as anyone can fly over the area above 1,000 feet.

progressoid

(53,265 posts)
12. Meh.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 09:00 PM
Apr 2013

I've done aerial photography at over 1500 ft. It's not the best scenario, but it's doable. Certainly, one would rather shoot at 500ft (the usual limit for "non congested" areas, but 1000 ft isn't so bad. For a lot of cities, the limit is 1000 feet anyway.

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. What does "corporate interests" have to do with it?
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:12 PM
Apr 2013

That's just a well-worn catchphrase of ignorance.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
15. Good ... then there will be no obstacles
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 09:22 PM
Apr 2013

for my unmanned recon drone taking pictures ...

patrice

(47,992 posts)
16. So, if 1,000 feet doesn't really prevent info acquisition, why else might the FAA have done this?nt
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 09:28 PM
Apr 2013

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
29. To clear airspace for cleanup choppers.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:12 PM
Apr 2013

The same reason cops use their cars and road flares to keep traffic away from a car wreck.

George II

(67,782 posts)
30. 1000 feet is the limit in MANY areas of the country.................no ulterior motive.
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 11:13 PM
Apr 2013

Volaris

(11,743 posts)
20. The "hazard" being reduction of Exxon's quarterly bottom line if too many proles see what's happenin
Wed Apr 3, 2013, 09:56 PM
Apr 2013
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