WH's Jay Carney GETS HIT On Social Security CUTS In President's Budget

[Segami]

"....This is not the President's ideal budget proposal,...it is a budget proposal that represents a ' good faith, compromise position ', that reflects the offer he made to the Speaker Of The House, that was 'widely seen as a compromise good faith effort' that met Republicans half way, and it ' reflected the People's Will ' that we address these challenges in a way thats ' balanced & fair '...."

[enlightenment]

1. "Reflected the People's Will"?

Which people?

[neverforget]

16. Pete Petersen, Erskine Bowles, Alan Simpson, etc.

Third Way Democrats and Republicans.

[enlightenment]

18. Of course -

what was I thinking . . .?

I did enjoy listening to how Jay's voice started going shrill as he moved into "bullshit: phase 2" of his answer.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

51. Yea, he's going to have to practice a little more on that.

I'll bet that there's some at the White House that like to play poker with him.

[Comrade_McKenzie]

23. 47% of the country and a majority of seniors that voted for Romney. nt

[NCTraveler]

52. Please provide a poll showing that 47% of the country...

and a majority of seniors want cuts to Social Security. You cannot. Those two items are not connected with the cutting of Social Security at all.

[Jack Rabbit]

38. The artificial persons

Did the asshole who said "corporations are people" win after all?

[bobduca]

45. "The Important People"

You know, the owners of this country, the plutocratic third-way liars.

[Autumn]

2. "reflected the People's Will"

sure it does, the 1%.

[JaneyVee]

3. Balanced and fair? Like Bill Gates splitting a dinner bill 50/50 with his janitor?

[randome]

4. Ha! Good one!

[Buns_of_Fire]

10. At least he didn't phrase it "fair and balanced". nt

[NCarolinawoman]

11. HA!

[byeya]

5. "reflected the people's will"..We the People call BS on this flack

[HereSince1628]

6. Obama said he was done compromising with himself?

This pragmatism thang is getting beyond dysfunctional.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

7. Not this people.

is right.

[winter is coming]

8. Good faith?

[NCarolinawoman]

9. "Fair and Balanced"?

Talking points from FAUX news?! He actually WENT there?

Figures!

[Curmudgeoness]

12. What "People's will"? Which "People"? nt

[freshwest]

13. The GOP won't vote for it, so Obama takes the heat to give them cover to break their tax pledge?

at Boehner refusing to read the bill and Rand promising to filibuster bills that haven't been proposed yet...

[rhett o rick]

14. Sorry grandma, Pres Obama says that if you eat cat food, it's part of a "balanced approach...."

that all Americans want.

The question: "why is the president proposing to cut SS and Medicare?"

The answer: "it's not what he wants."

Cut SS at the peril of the Democratic Party.

Time to draw the line in the sand.

[JDPriestly]

21. The rank-and-file Republicans don't want this either.

On Social Security it is the vast majority of Americans v. a tiny minority of hedge-fund and trust-fund greedy people.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

31. What if my wife doesn't like cat food? I can't even convince her to take cod liver oil.

[ballardgirl]

34. Cat Food

I just read an article in Popular Science saying that our pets' food is actually more nutritious than much of what people eat.

[rhett o rick]

42. Some may be, some comes from China with posion in it. You tell your grandma it's ok to eat. nm

[LeftInTX]

41. I knew someone who used to eat canned dog food

He couldn't read English and he thought it was delicious - LOL He served it to a friend and the friend told him what it was.

[Marr]

15. 'This president refuses to do *great* harm to Social Security'.

He just wants to give it a good nick in an artery. Let it bleed out slowly.

[snappyturtle]

17. He's drowning at sea and flailing to get a hold on anything that floats! nt

[JDPriestly]

19. Carney's response is pure baloney.

Seniors who rely on Social Security are already living on very little. Those who don't rely on it pay the same taxes as everyone else, in many cases more because they don't get things like child care credits, deductions for housing loans (even if they are paying a mortgage, they have most likely paid it down to the point where they don't pay much interest as the percentage of each payment that goes to pay interest decreases over time).

Social Security pays rock bottom -- just enough to live, just enough to cover your expenses.

It cannot be cut without working hardship on American families as seniors are forced to beg from their kids to get by.

Social Security and Medicare cannot be cut.

And where in the world is the focus on jobs. Why not revamp our tax and bankruptcy codes to encourage businesses to create jobs and protect workers.

Why include Social Security in discussions about balancing the budget? It has nothing to do with balancing the budget.

Obama is way, way wrong on this.

[DJ13]

35. An excellent summary

It deserves its own thread.

[Bluenorthwest]

56. Very excellent post.

nt

[bhikkhu]

20. ...could've seen that one coming!

I just hope there is an actual plan in place to transition from the opening proposal into something more functional, that doesn't involve chained cpi.

[zeemike]

22. Notice how he played off of Bad Cop.

Look over at Bad Cop...he wants to take it ALL right away....be thankful for Good Cop cause he is all that stands between you and Bad Cop.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

24. NOOO it does NOT reflect "the people's will" and it is NOT "balanced & fair" - AND

there should be NO COMPROMISING using/with Social Security. PERIOD. E V E R.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

25. This reflects my will:

Kiss my fucking ass, you lying sack of shit. So now they're saying whatever they please like the Chimpy Administration?

[cantbeserious]

26. The Obama Administration Degenerates To That Of Bush II - Do What We Say Or Else

eom

[pangaia]

27. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIi

I couldn't even listen to all that crap.
How can that guy stand there a vomit out all the gobble dee gook? How? he gets paid well.

Next question... " Why do you smell like you just shit your pants."
Answer.. "Well, i feel it was the best choice and a fair compromise for all you here and all Americans watching, between walking off stage to go take a shit, and taking my pants off in front of you and taking a shit right here."

[Bluenorthwest]

57. Jay gets paid $172,000 a year of taxpayer money to fill his pants on TV like that.

He insisted on the very top WH pay.

[pangaia]

59. Hummm. I might be willing to do it for a little less... :>))

[dgauss]

28. I'm really sick of the line "No one gets 100% of what they want."

Who's expecting to get 100% of what they want? I think most people on the left understand that we'll get very little of what we want from this political system.

Not wanting to lose even more than we have over the last 30 years is not the same thing as wanting to get 100%.

[Segami]

29. I smell bullshit!

[peacebird]

30. +1000

[MotherPetrie]

32. What a slippery weasel (apologies to weasels)

[brentspeak]

33. It sure reflects George Will's people

But sure as hell doesn't reflect "the People's will".

Carney, you're a tool.

[paleotn]

36. I do miss the days....

when SS was the REAL 3rd rail of American politics. Back then, even the mainstream media would have gawked at Carney's statement like he was out of his F'n mind.

[Jack Rabbit]

37. In other words . . . here we go again

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Since there is no longer any such thing as a reasonable person in the Republican Party, our Democratic President has taken it upon himself to (once again) negotiate with himself, compromising with a reasonable Republican who is actually nothing more than a figment of his imagination.

I thought he was through with that nonsense. I voted for somebody who said he was through with that nonsense.

He didn't get anything in return for this behavior during his entire first term.

[Segami]

44. I guess he's not quite through yet.

Its deja vu all over again.

[TheKentuckian]

39. Really Jay? Double talking piece of shit motherfucker.

[Iwillnevergiveup]

40. Before this week is out

I wonder how many more American citizens are going to have new blood pressure medication prescribed. Me included.

[rhett o rick]

43. Pres Obama is a lame duck. He can do what his conscience dictates. Apparently his

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conscience tells him to ignore the 99%.

[Demo_Chris]

58. That was his goal during his first four years as well

[DeSwiss]

46. K&R

"Every government is run by liars and nothing they say should be believed." ~I.F. Stone

[forestpath]

47. Fucking snake oil salesman. I hope they KEEP hitting him on it.

[bobduca]

48. Thank god its "balanced and fair" and not "fair and balanced" close one!

[progressoid]

49. I can't click on that video,

I've had my daily requirement of bullshit already.

[OregonBlue]

50. I voted for a Democratic president, not a Republican. If I wanted this shit, I could have voted

for Romney.

[City Lights]

53. republicans LOST, why is he trying to meet them half-way?

One doesn't start negotiations giving away 50% of one's position.

[fredamae]

54. Best Corporate Sales Rep Money

can buy! Wow! What isn't stated says a Lot.

[Rex]

55. 'Good faith, compromise position'? Yeah we all know that one.