Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:26 PM
Paul E Ester (952 posts)
Mother shot dead holding infant daughter at Idaho pit-bull breeding pot farmLast edited Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:26 PM - Edit history (1)
The two-month-old girl was discovered unharmed along with the bodies of her mother and two other men. Marijuana worth approximately $95K was also discovered at the crime scene.
Two men and a mother with her baby daughter still in her arms were found shot dead at an alleged pot and pit bull breeding farm in rural Idaho, police say.
The bodies of Yavette Chivon Carter, 27, her boyfriend Trent Jon Christensen, 32, and his dad Brent Christensen, 61, were all discovered at the Holbrook property on Friday. Cops say a man coming to pick up a dog at around 1 p.m. saw a two-year-old girl sitting on the front steps. Walking inside, he found the trio of corpses - and the two-month-old baby still being cradled by her mom. Cops say 70 pit bulls, believed to be involved in a dog fighting ring, were chained up in the back yard. Marijuana worth around $95,000 was also discovered. Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mother-shot-dead-holding-infant-daughter-idaho-pit-bull-breeding-farm-police-article-1.1310492#ixzz2PticVc6y
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Paul E Ester | Apr 2013 | OP |
Orrex | Apr 2013 | #1 | |
Drale | Apr 2013 | #2 | |
MineralMan | Apr 2013 | #3 | |
Orrex | Apr 2013 | #8 | |
MineralMan | Apr 2013 | #11 | |
FSogol | Apr 2013 | #13 | |
Mojorabbit | Apr 2013 | #28 | |
snooper2 | Apr 2013 | #12 | |
B2G | Apr 2013 | #4 | |
Larrylarry | Apr 2013 | #5 | |
Orrex | Apr 2013 | #10 | |
Orrex | Apr 2013 | #6 | |
msanthrope | Apr 2013 | #15 | |
pipoman | Apr 2013 | #18 | |
bluedigger | Apr 2013 | #7 | |
Wait Wut | Apr 2013 | #9 | |
HappyMe | Apr 2013 | #14 | |
TrogL | Apr 2013 | #20 | |
Atman | Apr 2013 | #26 | |
pipoman | Apr 2013 | #16 | |
Initech | Apr 2013 | #17 | |
Orrex | Apr 2013 | #19 | |
Eleanors38 | Apr 2013 | #30 | |
pintobean | Apr 2013 | #39 | |
Fla_Democrat | Apr 2013 | #31 | |
randome | Apr 2013 | #21 | |
Atman | Apr 2013 | #27 | |
Orrex | Apr 2013 | #34 | |
NickB79 | Apr 2013 | #22 | |
RC | Apr 2013 | #23 | |
Orrex | Apr 2013 | #25 | |
RC | Apr 2013 | #29 | |
Orrex | Apr 2013 | #32 | |
RC | Apr 2013 | #36 | |
Orrex | Apr 2013 | #38 | |
lame54 | Apr 2013 | #24 | |
Poll_Blind | Apr 2013 | #33 | |
Dash87 | Apr 2013 | #35 | |
JNelson6563 | Apr 2013 | #37 |
Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:33 PM
Orrex (61,099 posts)
1. F'ed up story
Curious that no one ever breaks up a Chocolate Lab dogfighting ring.
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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:33 PM
Drale (7,932 posts)
2. This is the media biased I've been talking about
What does it add to the story that it was a Pit-Bull breading farm? Its meant to make you instantly think well these people were bad. I am no doubt they were because they are most likely using a puppy farm to breed dogs and that's bad but by saying it was a Pit-Bull farm they furthering the association between Pits and bad people.
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Response to Drale (Reply #2)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:37 PM
MineralMan (143,650 posts)
3. Perhaps the dogs they were breeding actually were pit bulls.
Then, it would be part of a story, wouldn't it? I suspect that is the case here.
On the other hand, I've never tried "breaded" pit bull from a pit bull "breading" farm. Does it taste like chicken? ![]() |
Response to MineralMan (Reply #3)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:42 PM
Orrex (61,099 posts)
8. Some people claim that breaded pit bulls are very tough
But their advocates insist that they're just as tender as any other animal when properly prepared.
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Response to Orrex (Reply #8)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:44 PM
MineralMan (143,650 posts)
11. Well, I've always figured that breading was just a way
to hide crummy meat, anyhow.
"How would you like your chicken-fried steak, sir?" "Uh, on someone else's plate, thanks." |
Response to MineralMan (Reply #11)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:47 PM
FSogol (42,654 posts)
13. They call it "Country-Fried" Pit Bull around here.
![]() Wouldn't pit bulls object to being breaded? I hear they are quite strong. |
Response to FSogol (Reply #13)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 08:45 AM
Mojorabbit (16,020 posts)
28. They really object to cornflake breading. Just saying...nt
Response to Orrex (Reply #8)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:45 PM
snooper2 (30,151 posts)
12. I thought that depends on whether they get beat or not?
Response to Drale (Reply #2)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:38 PM
B2G (9,766 posts)
4. Gee, I don't know...maybe it was the 70 pit bulls and the fighting ring...
or 100 grand of pot.
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Response to Drale (Reply #2)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:38 PM
Larrylarry (76 posts)
5. I guess your post is confusing me
What the hell are you trying to say ?
There are three corpses and you're worried that the pitbull is being painted in a bad way ? |
Response to Larrylarry (Reply #5)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:44 PM
Orrex (61,099 posts)
10. What the hell is your problem?
No one is claiming that the pitbulls pulled the trigger.
Jeez! |
Response to Drale (Reply #2)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:38 PM
Orrex (61,099 posts)
6. Are there a lot of pot-n-puppy farms out there?
Heck, for all I know there might be thousands of them.
But I suspect that the police have information beyond what is given in the article that might incline them to draw conclusions about the purpose of the breeding area. |
Response to Drale (Reply #2)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:51 PM
msanthrope (37,549 posts)
15. Is the pit bull breading cornflake-based? nt
Response to Drale (Reply #2)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:23 PM
pipoman (16,038 posts)
18. I think it's interesting since pit bulls are the
dog most prone to kill people AND guns are the most used murder weapon...
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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:41 PM
bluedigger (16,635 posts)
7. This story has something for everyone.
Pick your ox to gore.
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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:44 PM
Wait Wut (8,492 posts)
9. Glad the kids are okay.
Would rather the scum family stood in front of a judge instead of being shot. Either way, the majority of those dogs, if not all, will die.
Hopefully, those kids will have a better chance at life. |
Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 02:48 PM
HappyMe (20,277 posts)
14. Guns! Pit bull fighting! Olive Garden!
This is fucking sad.
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Response to HappyMe (Reply #14)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:35 PM
TrogL (32,687 posts)
20. Was anybody circumcised?
(Jury, I'm kidding)
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Response to TrogL (Reply #20)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 08:42 AM
Atman (31,464 posts)
26. That's a sexist comment!
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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:20 PM
pipoman (16,038 posts)
16. Finally a legitimate thread about both guns AND Pitbulls!
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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:20 PM
Initech (91,817 posts)
17. If we ever legalize pot shit like this wouldn't happen.
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Response to Initech (Reply #17)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:31 PM
Orrex (61,099 posts)
19. Everybody could use some more pot shit.
Response to Orrex (Reply #19)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 08:50 AM
Eleanors38 (18,318 posts)
30. Had mine last night. And the pot, too.
Response to Orrex (Reply #19)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:43 AM
pintobean (18,101 posts)
39. Labrador is much better than Pit Bull
Response to Initech (Reply #17)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 08:52 AM
Fla_Democrat (2,353 posts)
31. If they were killed over pot
why was it still there?
![]() Cops say 70 pit bulls, believed to be involved in a dog fighting ring, were chained up in the back yard. Marijuana worth around $95,000 was also discovered. What if there was originally 80 pit bulls, and who ever did the killings took the champions, or the breeders? What if, and stay with me here, what if there are only 70 dogs... and a rival breeder decided to off the people, and then step in after the dust has settled to give the animals a good home? Huh, huh? They wouldn't have to worry about someone recognizing the dogs at their place.. "Hey, isn't that Christensen's prized pooch?" They could obtain the dogs legally via 'adoption', remove a rival breeder, and no one is the wiser. I would focus on who steps up and offers to take the dogs in. ![]() ![]() |
Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:42 PM
randome (34,845 posts)
21. There's nothing more dangerous than a pit bull high on weed.
Response to randome (Reply #21)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 08:43 AM
Atman (31,464 posts)
27. Wouldn't a stoned pit bull be more mellow?
Medicinal marijuana for pit bulls! Now!
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Response to Atman (Reply #27)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:01 AM
Orrex (61,099 posts)
34. They're all mellow by their very nature
Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know pitbulls it's the owners not the dogs it's the training not the owners but in any case it definitely absolutely positively isn't the dogs because they're sweet and would never hurt anyone and I know a pitbull that's the sweetest dog ever and more dachshunds than pitbulls bite people so maybe the dachshunds need a bong hit and WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM WITH PITBULLS ANYWAY?????!?!?!?
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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 03:45 PM
NickB79 (16,881 posts)
22. Christ, I thought this was a joke post
Someone stirring the shit, so to speak.
God damn. |
Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 04:29 PM
RC (25,592 posts)
23. Three people are dead, but you'd never tell from the replies what the story is about
A mother dead, with a 2 month old still in her arms and 2 year old and all I read is about pit bulls and Marijuana! What the hell is this place, FR?
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Response to RC (Reply #23)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 08:33 AM
Orrex (61,099 posts)
25. Two men were killed as well. Why do you omit them from your sermon?
Response to Orrex (Reply #25)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 08:48 AM
RC (25,592 posts)
29. Sermon? Really?
The men were not holding babies when they died.
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Response to RC (Reply #29)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 08:54 AM
Orrex (61,099 posts)
32. So you only urge compassion for murder victims who die while holding babies.
Got it.
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Response to Orrex (Reply #32)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:17 AM
RC (25,592 posts)
36. Don't be putting words in my mouth.
The rest of the thread and your posts, are centered on the dogs. Why do you think the dogs were more important than 3 dead people?
POST #1 F'ed up story Curious that no one ever breaks up a Chocolate Lab dogfighting ring. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022636033#post1 POST #8 Some people claim that breaded pit bulls are very tough But their advocates insist that they're just as tender as any other animal when properly prepared. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022636033#post8 POST #10 What the hell is your problem? No one is claiming that the pitbulls pulled the trigger. Jeez! http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022636033#post10 POST #6 Are there a lot of pot-n-puppy farms out there? Heck, for all I know there might be thousands of them. But I suspect that the police have information beyond what is given in the article that might incline them to draw conclusions about the purpose of the breeding area. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022636033#post6 Your posts are all about the dogs, as if the story were about them, instead of 3 dead people. What the hell is wrong with you? |
Response to RC (Reply #36)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:40 AM
Orrex (61,099 posts)
38. The dogs play into the circumstances of their deaths, as does the pot
It is appropriate to discuss those circumstances, since it's apparent that the police seem to think that they're significant.
I posted about the pitbulls because they are relevant, given the persistent and mysterious sentiment at DU that these dogs are no more dangerous than other breeds. To wit, the three dead people didn't have 70 chocolate labs chained up in the back yard. These are three people who participated in a violent and dangerous business, and death is not uncommon in that business. It is unfortunate that the woman was killed. It is also unfortunate that the two men were killed. Would your reaction have been different if one of the men had died while holding the baby instead? |
Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 04:51 PM
lame54 (32,595 posts)
24. Sounds like that 2 year old has a chance now
Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 08:56 AM
Poll_Blind (23,864 posts)
33. I hope to someday move to the planet where nobody shoots mothers holding babies. nt
PB
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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:10 AM
Dash87 (3,220 posts)
35. I'm sorry they were killed, but they were horrible people.
It's no surprise that filth attracts filth. Anyone that fights dogs / roosters / other animals is a monster.
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Response to Paul E Ester (Original post)
Tue Apr 9, 2013, 09:30 AM
JNelson6563 (28,147 posts)
37. Strange story.
I feel sorry for the two little ones.
Three dead? The pot and dogs (assets) were left behind? Something doesn't add up here. I wonder if we'll ever hear the story of what this was really about. I hope they catch the twisted person/people who did this. Cold blooded murder. Doesn't get much colder than killing a mother cradling a baby. Julie |