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In law enforcement there is a concept known as good cop/bad cop. It is used to get suspects to talk about what they know. Generally two cops go into a room to interview a suspect. The good cop is calm, friendly, offers a cup of coffee or cigarette. The bad cop is angry, in your face, threatening, perhaps even roughing up the suspect a bit. These two cops alternate their questioning of the suspect, and in the end, battered, emotionally shattered, the suspect finally talks. Which cop gets what he wants? Why the good cop, of course.
That is how this entire country is being played by the rich and the elite, and the political parties are acting as their cops. The Republicans are, of course, the bad cops, violent nasty critters who rough us up and scream in our face. The Democrats are friendly, promising change, are kind and gentle. Yet in the end, it is the Democrats who are getting the deed done. NAFTA, welfare reform, striking down Glass Steagal, insuring never ending war in Afghanistan, increasing the surveillance state, shredding public education, and now slashing Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
If a 'Pug had come out with this attack on the most vulnerable among us, there would be rioting in the streets. But since it was a Democrat, sure, there is some protest, but many others are accepting of it, because it is the good cop, the reasonable cop, the oh so sensible cop that is doing the slashing.
Meanwhile, the rich and elite laugh all the way to the bank as their political tools get done what they want them to get done. The rest of us, we just get played. Don't you think it is past time to put a stop to good cop/bad cop in this country?
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ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Meanwhile, the rich and elite laugh all the way to the bank"
...the President's budget is going to make the rich "laugh all the way to the bank"
President Obama's Tax Proposals in his Fiscal 2014 Budget Plan
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022659823
MadHound
(34,179 posts)Is going to cause them much distress, you have absolutely no clue about the virtually unlimited options the rich have of sheltering their money away from the taxman.
"Sure it will, if you think that those faux tax cuts and closing of loopholes"
...increasing income taxes on the rich, the estate tax and corporate taxes, taxing hedge fund managers, and charging banks a fee are not real? If the President didn't propose these he'd be attack for protecting the one percent.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)Tax loopholes have been closed before, and you know what happens, the rich pay their teams for accountants to find ways to protect their money, offshore tax havens, various other foreign accounts, tax free investments, the list if almost endless.
Seniors and the poor don't have this wealth of options available to them. When their SS benefits get cut, they suffer.
That is the sad reality of this situation, even if you don't want to admit it.
"You know, there have been tax hikes on the rich before, Tax loopholes have been closed before, and you know what happens, the rich pay their teams for accountants to find ways to protect their money, offshore tax havens, various other foreign accounts, tax free investments, the list if almost endless. "
...you object to more?
What about the proposals that benefit the poor and middle class?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022659823
Do you object to those too?
MadHound
(34,179 posts)That is what is happening there. But you know that, you just don't want to admit it.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Giving with one hand, taking away with the other"
...absolute nonsense. The proposals that tax the rich and benefit the poor and middle class should be supported, that is unless you believe these should be rejected.
MadHound
(34,179 posts)Benefits, like SS, Medicare and Medicaid, that are being slashed for the poor and middle class.
Frankly I think this whole budget should be shit canned and something truly progressive take its place.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Taxes the rich can get around with ease"
What was all the fuss about taxing the rich, increasing estate taxes and taxing hedge fund mangers if they "can get around" them.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022659823
MadHound
(34,179 posts)For raising a few taxes, closing a few loopholes, all of which the rich can get around with ease?
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"So, you think that cutting SS, Medicare and Medicaid is a good exchange"
...not. Do you think the proposals that tax the rich and benefit the poor and middle class should be rejected?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022659823
This is a more than $3.8 trillion budget that Congress has to approve. They should be pushed to reject the chained CPI and pass the other proposals.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)"benefit the poor and middle class."
But keep pimping Obama's Wall St/Turd Way budget here on the boards. Somebody out there might be stupid enough to believe your spiel.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)
yodermon
(6,153 posts)and the Rich won't pay their taxes, (so why bother taxing them)
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Until we finally say, enough is enough, nothing will change and the elite will continue to rob us blind.
SamKnause
(14,887 posts)I agree and have been pointing this out for quite sometime.
Dylan Ratigan shouted it from the rooftops.
Lindsay
(3,276 posts)that has occurred to me as well.
Both parties are essentially on the same side, and the majority of the people are looked on as the perps. Feeling like a criminal for just wanting to live your life is not a good place to be...but obviously it's working for those in power.
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)He is not. This is what the man IS.
Public education's destruction is entirely on his watch--not Bush's, NCLB notwithstanding.
And he wants to destroy the Great Society and New Deal to bail out his Wall Street backers for having ruined the economy.
http://www.salon.com/2013/04/11/obamas_entitlement_plan_was_four_years_in_the_making/
Just four days before his inauguration in January 2009, a Washington Post headline blared, “Obama Pledges Entitlement Reform,” and detailed “a wide-ranging 70 minute interview with Washington Post reporters and editors,” in which the president-elect endorsed efforts by congressional Republicans, and “the Blue Dog Coalition of fiscally conservative Democrats,” to cut Social Security and Medicare. A small group of progressives were disturbed at what their friends in Congress were leaking to them about Obama’s commitment to doing this, and a few blog posts were issued to ring alarm bells publicly about it.
People here can deny it all they want, but truth is truth.
In 2016, if we still have a country, I expect another puppet to be picked for the Democratic nomination.
It's all a win-win for the financial elites in this country, while it is a lose-lose for everybody else.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Him bringing it up reflects just how much the party has changed since Clinton moved it to the right.
Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)That's who locked the post in question. 
Sid
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)No EarlG is obviously not a worshipper ...as much as you would like to accuse me of calling him that.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Sid
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)SidDithers
(44,333 posts)You said you were going to do it here, and damn the consequences:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022659329#post18
And instead, you went running to ATA, to ask permission.
So much for having the courage of your convictions.
Sid
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts) Flying Squirrel
(3,041 posts)And I've already posted two OP's in the past which were both hidden. I did not say I was going to post another OP, that's you putting words into my mouth. You said this:
Have the courage of your convictions, and say what you think is important to you.
Go for it.
Sid
To which I replied, "I will do so, and if I'm banned as a result I just may do as you suggest and start Liberal Underground."
Meaning that I plan to have the courage of my convictions and say what I think is important to me - not that I plan to post yet another OP which will obviously be hidden or locked. Not all problems do well with the head-on approach, and I actually do have enough intelligence to know when it's time to stop beating my head against a brick wall and start tapping at it strategically with a ball peen hammer.
P.S.: Yes, you're a shit-stirrer who doesn't have a dog in this fight. Don't bother talking any more to me, you're on Ignore.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Bad cop, worse cop.
Dustlawyer
(10,539 posts)stupidicus
(2,570 posts)every since the DLC blazed a trail through the "middle" of the two forks in the ideological road back in the Clinton years.
Sadly that trail has been migrating slowly to the right for about as long, shifting what is effectively the ideological center line and what is to be expected from those residing politically on it.
That's why some of us lefties are characterized as "extreme", despite being much farther from the cliff at the left end of the ideological spectrum than the modern rightwingnut, which has one foot over their end.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Hell,...most can't name the Vice President.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)I see you have already engaged with one of the worst of the sycophants upthread. Keep fighting the good, we need you.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)
zeemike
(18,998 posts)That they both work for the same people....with law enforcement is should be obvious...but with politics the employer is the 1% who stay in the background and let the myth that the good cop is looking out for you stand.
But putting a stop to it is going to be hard, because some of us still don't get the fact that we are being gamed and they do indeed "laugh all the way to the bank"...because they know that fools are easily separated from their money.
valerief
(53,235 posts)SidDithers
(44,333 posts)More, no difference between parties, don't vote for Democrats bullshit.
Why don't you just come out and say it, Madhound. Why do you keep skirting around the issue, parsing your words and using hints and innuendo?
It seems like you're willing to compromise your principles in order to not jeopardize your membership at DU. 
Sid
MadHound
(34,179 posts)I dislike people who advocate destructive political positions for this country who won't suffer the consequences of those positions, since they don't live in this country.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)Principles before party, right? Only for you, it seems to be posting privileges before principles.
Sid
MadHound
(34,179 posts)You're just shit stirring because you don't live in this country, and nothing that you advocate for us will effect you. Talk about cowardly.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)afraid to clearly spell it out for fear of being tombstoned.
That would be you.
Sid
MadHound
(34,179 posts)What are you doing, and saying, about politics up in Canada? Nothing, because for you, up there, it's real. Again, it is the cowardly move.
SidDithers
(44,333 posts)and 'I'm not saying don't vote for Dems, but the parties are the same, and voting the same way won't change anything, so use your vote wisely in 2014 and 2016, but I'm not saying don't vote for Dems, no not saying that at all. * nudge nudge wink wink *'
Cowardly is trying to push an agenda while hiding behind innuendo and obfuscation. Courage is speaking plainly.
Sid
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