Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

bigtree

(94,649 posts)
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 10:40 AM Dec 2011

Let's get the Feinstein DPGA right. It makes Congress expressly authorize detentions

. . . like the 1971 Non-Detention Act intended. Read these two essays from Steve Vladeck at Lawfare together and carefully . . .


The NDAA and the Due Process Guarantee Act of 2011

With the ink barely dry on the Senate’s passage of the NDAA, Senator Feinstein yesterday introduced on behalf of herself and 13 Senate colleagues (including Republican Senators Lee, Kirk, and Paul) the “Due Process Guarantee Act of 2011.” The title is a bit of a misnomer; what the bill really does is amend the Non-Detention Act (which requires statutory authorization for the detention of U.S. citizens) by adding what would be new 18 U.S.C. § 4001(b):

An authorization to use military force, a declaration of war, or any similar authority shall not authorize the detention without charge or trial of a citizen or lawful permanent resident of the United States apprehended in the United States, unless an Act of Congress expressly authorizes such detention.

. . . I think this legislation would provide a promising solution to the clear statement issue–and a far more meaningful safeguard against abuses of governmental detention authority than anything in the NDAA. Reasonable people will surely disagree about the circumstances in which the government should legally be able to detain U.S. citizens and LPRs without charges–that’s another matter. But it strikes me that the only reason to oppose requiring Congress to speak clearly when it intends to authorize such detention (and to thereby force the difficult constitutional questions that such detention raises) is if one honestly believes both that (1) Congress would provide express authorization (hardly a given, methinks); and (2) as such, we’re better off leaving things ambiguous–and therefore ultimately up to the courts. And for those, like me, who think that there already is a clear statement requirement, the “DPGA” would merely codify that understanding…

read: http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/12/the-ndaa-and-the-due-process-guarantee-act-of-2011/


The Problematic NDAA: On Clear Statements and Non-Battlefield Detention

____ I’m not at all convinced that the conference version of the NDAA is substantially better than the House or Senate version (or that either is better than nothing)… In this post, I’ll start with the question of non-battlefield detention authority. Bobby has already flagged how the conference version of the NDAA does nothing to resolve the ambiguity concerning whether Congress has authorized the detention of citizens everywhere and non-citizens initially arrested within the territorial United States. But how that ambiguity cuts probably depends on an entirely separate question, and one on which there’s been surprisingly little public debate (and on which the NDAA is itself totally silent): Must Congress provide a clear statement when it seeks to authorize such detention? That, to me, is most of the ballgame here.

To my mind, the most specific arguments for why a clear statement is necessary are statutory. Thus, Congress in the 1971 Non-Detention Act provided that “No citizen shall be imprisoned or otherwise detained by the United States except pursuant to an Act of Congress.” Although Hamdi held the AUMF (Authorization for Use of Military Force), which contains no such clear statement, to satisfy the NDA, that was in the hyper-specific context of individuals picked up on the battlefield in Afghanistan. The Second Circuit in Padilla specifically held that the NDA requires “clear” congressional authorization (which the AUMF didn’t provide) for citizens picked up within the territorial United States. And even though the Fourth Circuit subsequently reached the opposite result in Padilla’s case, its analysis turned entirely on the (disputed) claims that “Padilla associated with forces hostile to the United States in Afghanistan,” and, “like Hamdi, Padilla took up arms against United States forces in that country in the same way and to the same extent as did Hamdi.” In short, no decision before 9/11 or since supports the notion that the NDA can be satisfied without a clear statement for citizens who don’t fit those exceptional facts, including citizens picked up outside the U.S. but not in the context of active military operations.

With regard to non-citizens, there is, of course, no Non-Detention Act. But we often forget about section 412 of the USA PATRIOT Act, which provides for the mandatory detention of non-citizens within the territorial United States who the Attorney General certifies are suspected of various terrorist activities or “engaged in any other activity that endangers the national security of the United States.” Indeed, the substantive sweep of section 412 is astounding; the only reason why it hasn’t been used since 9/11 is because of its procedural and temporal restraints. In her original panel opinion in al-Marri, Judge Motz explained that section 412 “establishes a specific method for the Government to detain aliens affiliated with terrorist organizations, who the Government believes have come to the United States to endanger our national security, conduct espionage and sabotage, use force and violence to overthrow the government, engage in terrorist activity, or even who are believed likely to engage in any terrorist activity.” In light of such specific authorization (and the constraints on detention contained therein), Judge Motz concluded that the AUMF was insufficiently clear authority for the detention of non-citizens within the territorial United States. The en banc Fourth Circuit subsequently disagreed, albeit on exceedingly narrow grounds, and in a decision that was itself vacated by the Supreme Court.

One might also divine clear statement rules from some combination of the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments, although my own inclination is that the statutory arguments are on firmer footing. But either way, the relevant point is that, although neither the Second Circuit’s analysis in Padilla nor the Fourth Circuit panel’s analysis in al-Marri are still good law, there’s no law in the other direction either. And that’s why the NDAA is, in my view, so dangerous on this issue; supporters of virtually every position can claim that the NDAA, by preserving the status quo, preserves their view. It might be far safer for Congress to specify what the statutes already suggest–i.e., that status quo or no status quo, it takes a clear legislative statement to hold individuals picked up in non-battlefield situations without criminal charges. But until and unless we settle the clear statement issue, this conversation is just going to keep going in circles, and anyone who thinks the NDAA resolves it one way or the other is selling something.

read: http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/12/the-problematic-ndaa-on-clear-statements-and-non-battlefield-detention/


I'm still learning on this issue, but the Feinstein DPGA is more than just a band-aid to a bad bill, it's an attempt to make Congress responsible for the detentions as the 1971 Non-Detention Act intended, and to resolve the question of who's detaining and holding these people prisoner and under what authority. I don't expect it to find much traction with the same legislature which has just passed the question, ultimately, back to the courts - - but I suppose we'll see.

2 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Let's get the Feinstein DPGA right. It makes Congress expressly authorize detentions (Original Post) bigtree Dec 2011 OP
Has this bill passed? I have seen a couple of posters saying Autumn Dec 2011 #1
she had two amendments to the NDAA bigtree Dec 2011 #2

Autumn

(49,019 posts)
1. Has this bill passed? I have seen a couple of posters saying
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 10:47 AM
Dec 2011

that the NDAA is not a problem because her bill fixed it.

bigtree

(94,649 posts)
2. she had two amendments to the NDAA
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 10:58 AM
Dec 2011

one failed, one was adopted, I believe. (could have the details wrong on that)

That's the 'fix' you're talking about . . .

After a Feinstein amendment, language was added that "nothing in this section shall be construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are captured or arrested in the United States."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/14/MNG41MBV4K.DTL


The DPGA is a free-standing bill she's introducing.

http://www.emptywheel.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/111215-Feinstein-Due-Process.pdf

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Let's get the Feinstein D...