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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 03:52 PM Apr 2013

Obama Budget Plans on Replacing USDA Poultry Inspectors with Industry Self Regulation - RealNews

Obama Budget Plans on Replacing USDA Poultry Inspectors with Industry Self Regulation
Tony Corbo: Plan will put our food supply at risk in a move that will increase profits of poultry producers and save only 90 million dollars over three years

RealNews
April 11, 13



Transcript at Link: http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=10052




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Obama Budget Plans on Replacing USDA Poultry Inspectors with Industry Self Regulation - RealNews (Original Post) WillyT Apr 2013 OP
is this for real? self-regulation is the reason there are more and more food poisoning and food HiPointDem Apr 2013 #1
Now, now, there is no money for governmental inspection of the food supply when the indepat Apr 2013 #12
Don't they understand that the producers Ilsa Apr 2013 #2
wow. That's pretty messed up. limpyhobbler Apr 2013 #3
not surprised Marrah_G Apr 2013 #4
We need MORE food regulation not less. If true, another move in the wrong direction, another cave on point Apr 2013 #5
Might be time to make the change I've contemplated and become Vegan. n/t Laurian Apr 2013 #6
Self regulation worked great for Wall Street! What could go wrong? Divernan Apr 2013 #7
Self-regulation is an oxymoron. LuvNewcastle Apr 2013 #8
What could possibly go wrong? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2013 #9
Someone will be along shortly to tell you why it's a great idea I mean it's Obama and he has a plan Arcanetrance Apr 2013 #10
They'll be along to tell what you are reading isn't really what you are reading at all. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2013 #28
lol, no shit. Marr Apr 2013 #39
I'll be buying organic... diane in sf Apr 2013 #11
"IF" you can determine what is organic! glinda Apr 2013 #13
This has worked so well in the past, Progressive dog Apr 2013 #14
Chicken SamKnause Apr 2013 #15
who has had food poisoning? MFM008 Apr 2013 #16
1st you're afraid you'll die; then you're afraid you won't. Divernan Apr 2013 #31
Another proposal that will kill people Broward Apr 2013 #17
Like St. Ronnie said, government is not the solution to our problem. jsr Apr 2013 #18
And a big rec to The Real News dreamnightwind Apr 2013 #19
"A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican" Zorra Apr 2013 #20
K&R. nt gateley Apr 2013 #21
And somewhere in the proposal Nite Owl Apr 2013 #22
WTF x 2! Omaha Steve Apr 2013 #23
Just in time for the next bird flu. n/t winter is coming Apr 2013 #24
k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Apr 2013 #25
Speechless. AzDar Apr 2013 #26
Yummmmm. Barbecued toficken all summer long... DreamGypsy Apr 2013 #27
Cuts $30 mil./year to public health-adds $260 mil/yr. poultry industry profits. Divernan Apr 2013 #29
The news keeps getting worse Liberalynn Apr 2013 #30
See, this will be a free hand of the market thingy! djean111 Apr 2013 #32
OK, we're dead. defacto7 Apr 2013 #33
He sure didn't waste any time after being re-elected to drop the facade. forestpath Apr 2013 #34
It's like ProSense Apr 2013 #35
My new standard for gaging actions by the WH is DJ13 Apr 2013 #36
Specifically, what would Ronald Reagan do? jsr Apr 2013 #45
He really believes an industry that corrupt can be trusted betterdemsonly Apr 2013 #37
So they're having the industry do the assembly line inspections... randome Apr 2013 #38
I Think I'll Go With These Guys... WillyT Apr 2013 #41
I assume the politicians and the 1% will have some alternate, well-inspected system Marr Apr 2013 #40
Well, that's one way to get people to choose less costly alternatives (nt) Babel_17 Apr 2013 #42
Yeah, a nice bowl of lead-tainted rice. WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #44
There's a new one every day. woo me with science Apr 2013 #43
aren't you shocked, woo? Skittles Apr 2013 #46
I would need to lick the transformer at our power company woo me with science Apr 2013 #48
What!? That is terrible. Quantess Apr 2013 #47
 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
1. is this for real? self-regulation is the reason there are more and more food poisoning and food
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 03:55 PM
Apr 2013

adulteration cases in the us.

it's been a big failure.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
12. Now, now, there is no money for governmental inspection of the food supply when the
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:35 PM
Apr 2013

the likes of der mittens need to keep their favored 'carried interest' provision to play like their earned income/pension is capital gains. This is the new government acting in the public interest and promoting the general welfare.

Ilsa

(64,562 posts)
2. Don't they understand that the producers
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:01 PM
Apr 2013

will just do a cost-benefit analysis and that people will die from lack of regulation?

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
4. not surprised
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:06 PM
Apr 2013

Nothing that comes out of Washington surprises me any more....from either party.

on point

(2,506 posts)
5. We need MORE food regulation not less. If true, another move in the wrong direction, another cave
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:09 PM
Apr 2013

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
7. Self regulation worked great for Wall Street! What could go wrong?
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:16 PM
Apr 2013

So can we hoi polloi monitor our own parking times, drug use, PAYING TAXES? Hey, I'll calculate how much I SHOULD pay and the US Govt can take my word for it... After all, I am as honest and altruistic as any multimillion dollar corporate body, right? Meanwhile, time to switch to the other white meat.

Next, Obama can get rid of the mine safety inspectors, the operations safety inspectors for air carriers, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission nuclear plant inspectors, etc., etc., Come to think of it, why not just cut to the chase and get rid of the whole food and drug administration. We know what a sterling record Big Pharma has.

Tom Rinaldo

(23,193 posts)
9. What could possibly go wrong?
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:19 PM
Apr 2013

The private sector is always more efficient than the government, don't you know. Why I am sure they can clear 10,000 chickens of any cause for alarm in just the blink of an eye. Those government inspectors might actually try to examine them, which is so old school.

Arcanetrance

(2,670 posts)
10. Someone will be along shortly to tell you why it's a great idea I mean it's Obama and he has a plan
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 04:27 PM
Apr 2013

And we should trust him 100% all that happy horseshit

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
39. lol, no shit.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 09:53 PM
Apr 2013

I doubt that particular disciple will be making an appearance on this one.

Progressive dog

(7,612 posts)
14. This has worked so well in the past,
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 05:04 PM
Apr 2013

why don't we just get rid of all government inspections? No one will cheat just to make more money.

SamKnause

(14,945 posts)
15. Chicken
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 05:10 PM
Apr 2013

This 'good cop/ bad cop' is working out great for the right.

The left is getting shit on from every direction.

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
19. And a big rec to The Real News
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 05:34 PM
Apr 2013

I love The Real News. I subscribe to their Youtube channel. They do excellent reporting and analysis, can't say enough about them.

Self-inspection, it's come to that, eh? Chickens and turkeys will be given hand-mirrors, useless since they have no hands, this plan will never work! Someone tell Obama!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
20. "A Day in the Life of Joe Middle-Class Republican"
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 05:45 PM
Apr 2013

Joe gets up at 6:00am to prepare his morning coffee. He fills his pot full of good clean drinking water because some liberal fought for minimum water quality standards. He takes his daily medication with his first swallow of coffee. His medications are safe to take because some liberal fought to insure their safety and work as advertised.
---
Joe takes his morning shower reaching for his shampoo; His bottle is properly labeled with every ingredient and the amount of its contents because some liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some tree hugging liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government subsidized ride to work; it saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees. You see, some liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
----
Joe is home from work, he plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive to dads; his car is among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. He was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers Home Administration because bankers didn’t want to make rural loans. The house didn’t have electric until some big government liberal stuck his nose where it didn’t belong and demanded rural electrification. (Those rural Republican’s would still be sitting in the dark)

He is happy to see his dad who is now retired. His dad lives on Social Security and his union pension because some liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn’t have to. After his visit with dad he gets back in his car for the ride home.

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/thom-hartmann-day-life-joe-middle-class-re

So many of the great things we liberals have done for America are under attack, not just by republicans but by austerity minded, privatizing, deregulating neo-liberals!

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
27. Yummmmm. Barbecued toficken all summer long...
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 07:22 PM
Apr 2013

...and that golden brown stuffed tofurkey on Thanksgiving.

Better fed than dead.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
29. Cuts $30 mil./year to public health-adds $260 mil/yr. poultry industry profits.
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 07:28 PM
Apr 2013

For the Obama administration, this is a no-brainer. Will the White House start raising organic chickens next to their PR vegetable garden? You know, for the White House kitchen?

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=10052

" In President Obama's budget presented on Wednesday, one of the provisions calls for cutting back on food inspection, particularly of poultry, cutting back federal inspectors. Now joining us to talk about why this matters is Tony Corbo. He's a senior lobbyist for the food campaign at Food and Water Watch. He's responsible for food-related legislative regulatory issues that come before Congress and the executive branch.

"What brought this whole regulation about, this proposed regulation, is the fact that Obama two years ago issued an executive order asking the federal government agencies to look at regulations that could be eliminated and to have industry weigh in as to which regulations they consider to be onerous or redundant. And, of course, the poultry industry stepped up to the plate and said, we want fewer inspectors in these plants.
"What's wrong with that is that having USDA inspectors in these plants provides an unbiased view of what is going on in those plants from a food safety standpoint, from a sanitation standpoint. And so what the administration is proposing is to turn over a major proportion of the inspection duties over to the companies, where the company employees will be doing the jobs of the USDA inspectors. There'll be a token USDA inspection force left in these plants.


Read the whole article at the link and you'll think twice about purchasing raw chicken anywhere. We're looking at a trillion dollar deficit, and this change, while greatly endangering public health, will save $30 million a year, BUT allow the poultry industry to gain $260 million a year by reducing health regulations and increasing production. The token USDA inspector left in a plant will have 175 chickens per minute whizzing by on a conveyor belt.

And here's the real kicker. The article details that the government has been running a pilot program with the self-inspecting for several years.
When the administration proposed their regulation, they had a report doing an evaluation of these pilot plants. And it showed the last two years of data that they collected, that the pilot plants had actually higher salmonella rates than the conventionally inspected plants. And lo and behold, just this past month--USDA does a monthly report on the testing that the government does in these plants to test to see if the salmonella rates are either high or low, and two of the pilot plants showed up as failing the salmonella test.

So here's the ultimate irony. The administration keeps on going around and saying that this new model, this new inspection model is going to be able to reduce salmonella, and yet all of the evidence points the other way.
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
32. See, this will be a free hand of the market thingy!
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 07:37 PM
Apr 2013

If enough people sicken or die, and other people find out about it, and can figure out which chicken not to buy, then that chicken seller will go out of business. Easy peasy!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
35. It's like
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 09:25 PM
Apr 2013

"Obama Budget Plans on Replacing USDA Poultry Inspectors with Industry Self Regulation"

...deja vu: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002529000#post23

Weaknesses in Meat and Poultry Inspection Pilot Should Be Addressed Before Implementation
http://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-02-59

President's Budget Reflects Proposed Implementation of Flawed Poultry Rule
http://www.foodwhistleblower.org/blog/28-2013/521-presidents-budget-reflects-proposed-implementation-of-flawed-poultry-rule

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
36. My new standard for gaging actions by the WH is
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 09:28 PM
Apr 2013

What would a conservative administration do?

That eliminates a lot of the surprise.

 

betterdemsonly

(1,967 posts)
37. He really believes an industry that corrupt can be trusted
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 09:38 PM
Apr 2013

to police itself. Of coarse he allowed the banks to do it too and look where that has gotten. Guess he is trying to destroy the legacy of Teddy Roosevelt too! I can not believe what a reactionary bullshitter he is.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
38. So they're having the industry do the assembly line inspections...
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 09:44 PM
Apr 2013

...while the inspectors continue inspecting other areas of the plant. That doesn't sound as sinister as some SO BADLY want to believe.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
40. I assume the politicians and the 1% will have some alternate, well-inspected system
Sat Apr 13, 2013, 09:55 PM
Apr 2013

for themselves.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
48. I would need to lick the transformer at our power company
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:20 AM
Apr 2013

to be shocked anymore.

But, damn, I am angry. And so, so sad.

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