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Gold is plummeting... Glenn Beck likely on suicide watch... (Original Post) scheming daemons Apr 2013 OP
He's the consummate con artist. Do you really think he keeps his wealth in gold? baldguy Apr 2013 #1
exactly n2doc Apr 2013 #17
pretty sure Ron Paul does rurallib Apr 2013 #19
Yes, but he is also a true believer siligut Apr 2013 #67
Link? nt Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #2
See below Benton D Struckcheon Apr 2013 #3
Thanks! nt Xipe Totec Apr 2013 #24
Don't tease me please malaise Apr 2013 #4
Likely a good sign for the dollar! nt Poll_Blind Apr 2013 #5
Yeah, it's up against all commodities right now Recursion Apr 2013 #13
Surprisingly not DFW Apr 2013 #27
*I'd* watch that. Richardo Apr 2013 #6
Glenn Beck and other right wing sufrommich Apr 2013 #7
+1 nt Javaman Apr 2013 #15
Some of the LW hosts have the commercials, too.... Wounded Bear Apr 2013 #60
He made his money lying to the stupid right wingers. Hoyt Apr 2013 #8
Gun Futures! How novel. nt Lucky Luciano Apr 2013 #21
LOL, He convinced his listeners to buy gold when the price was at an all-time high. FSogol Apr 2013 #40
Exactly- those of us who bought it cheap, years ago BeHereNow Apr 2013 #69
Well, it will be interesting to see how much panic is out there. MineralMan Apr 2013 #9
I've been saying for over a year that the only bubble out there was the Gold Bubble 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #10
Oil is way down too; this is currency in general deflating Recursion Apr 2013 #11
Not gas at the pump, wtf? xtraxritical Apr 2013 #48
There's very little relation. Recursion Apr 2013 #53
I listen to progressive radio Helen Reddy Apr 2013 #12
Why, has Beck been advocating buying gold? Auntie Bush Apr 2013 #14
Filing in my "Crying 'wolf' only works for a while.' Folder yellowcanine Apr 2013 #16
Anyone who has been buying gold the past 5 years gets what they deserve. cbdo2007 Apr 2013 #18
Well they have made a lot of money. former9thward Apr 2013 #57
Hmmmmmm....I sold some old sterling silver last week....Great timing. I wonder if I got screwed Armstead Apr 2013 #20
silve is down over 2.50/oz just today. rdking647 Apr 2013 #23
Selfishly, I'm wondering about last Wednesday and Thursday...Not that I sold very much Armstead Apr 2013 #25
im looking at buying some rdking647 Apr 2013 #22
Absolute evidence that GREED totally drives the economy Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #26
i dont think thats the cause rdking647 Apr 2013 #31
Agreed Kelvin Mace Apr 2013 #36
It's gone up so much BainsBane Apr 2013 #28
Prices and losses as of today 1-Old-Man Apr 2013 #29
I've noted changes in the gold advertisements. Ready4Change Apr 2013 #30
Gold is up about 450% since 2000. The DJIA is up around 25%. DesMoinesDem Apr 2013 #32
Gold plunging is actually a really bad sign for the global economy. reformist2 Apr 2013 #33
Makes no sense, Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #37
George Soros bet on gold as well, but recently changed his mind. reformist2 Apr 2013 #42
Well that could be a clue right there, no? sofa king Apr 2013 #52
Yes and the banks are using that cash to invest for themselves, they aren't lending it siligut Apr 2013 #38
The right-wing nutters are not what moved gold up so much. It's mostly big speculators globally. reformist2 Apr 2013 #43
Yes, China's gold futures slumped siligut Apr 2013 #44
It's a symptom, not a cause. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #49
The value of gold is mostly tied to the strength of the US dollar. DCBob Apr 2013 #61
Oh wow, gold is *not* a left wing vs. right wing thing! reformist2 Apr 2013 #64
you are right.. DCBob Apr 2013 #66
FReeper post: God is Making Gold Crash to Test Your Faith Loup Garou Apr 2013 #34
Yep, this looks like "capitulation". nt bemildred Apr 2013 #35
Now if... DirtyDawg Apr 2013 #39
Odd...I hear Schultz and Goldman shilling for gold, too. Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #41
Randi Rhodes and Thom Hartmann have done ads for gold too. A sponsor's a sponsor, I guess. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #45
yeah so dads freaking out about now PatrynXX Apr 2013 #46
Beck flogs Gold to a bunch of heavily-armed preppers. formercia Apr 2013 #47
Stocks will be next magic59 Apr 2013 #50
My advice to the suicide watch: Turbineguy Apr 2013 #51
Beck didn't sell gold, he sold overpriced gold coins JPZenger Apr 2013 #54
So happy to see it going down. It really was a bubble, unless efhmc Apr 2013 #55
Beck may have a genuine emotional reaction... Orsino Apr 2013 #56
Precious metals prices have been falling for the past 6 months. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #58
Wow, its down below $1400 DCBob Apr 2013 #59
Hah! Maybe the Cons can eat their gold HomeboyHombre Apr 2013 #62
Why would beck be on suicide watch? You don't think HE puts his money... JHB Apr 2013 #63
Is it a causal link in a larger financial correction? Bosonic Apr 2013 #65
Still 2X what I paid for it whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #68
Gold, like crude oil and every single stock and bond is RIGGED, it's a fact just1voice Apr 2013 #70

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
17. exactly
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:37 AM
Apr 2013

Only the rubes get fleeced. Next up-"Gold / Silver represent an incredible buying opportunity!"

siligut

(12,272 posts)
67. Yes, but he is also a true believer
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:30 PM
Apr 2013

That way he can really put his heart into it. I would bet Glenn has some gold stashed back in his magic underwear drawer.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
13. Yeah, it's up against all commodities right now
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:32 AM
Apr 2013

Oil is sinking too. Good times for people who buy stuff. Less good times for people who own stuff.

DFW

(60,182 posts)
27. Surprisingly not
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:17 AM
Apr 2013

The euro is still above $1.30, close to $1.31, at four week highs. Go figure.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
7. Glenn Beck and other right wing
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:22 AM
Apr 2013

radio hosts make their money shilling gold,not actually investing in it.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. He made his money lying to the stupid right wingers.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:26 AM
Apr 2013

If gold drops for awhile, the dumbasses will just put more into guns.

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
40. LOL, He convinced his listeners to buy gold when the price was at an all-time high.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:11 AM
Apr 2013


But, they'll blame the gubermint!

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
69. Exactly- those of us who bought it cheap, years ago
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:47 PM
Apr 2013

Know this is all manipulation of the masses.
I've lost nothing. Quite the opposite.
BHN

MineralMan

(151,263 posts)
9. Well, it will be interesting to see how much panic is out there.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:28 AM
Apr 2013

The only gold I'm holding is the stuff in my wife's jewelry box and a cheap-ass wedding ring on my finger, and she's definitely not selling.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
10. I've been saying for over a year that the only bubble out there was the Gold Bubble
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:31 AM
Apr 2013

and that sonObitch is going to pop.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
11. Oil is way down too; this is currency in general deflating
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:31 AM
Apr 2013

I think every commodity is pretty low right now.

 

Helen Reddy

(998 posts)
12. I listen to progressive radio
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:32 AM
Apr 2013

out of Wisconsin as well as Chicago.

Not only is it boobs like Beck pimpin' gold, but I have heard Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartman as well as Big Eddie doing paid advertisments for gold.

The money must be good to do these ads.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
14. Why, has Beck been advocating buying gold?
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:34 AM
Apr 2013

I hope he and all his minions have put ALL their money in gold which will roll right down the roof and into the gutter.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
57. Well they have made a lot of money.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:11 PM
Apr 2013

I have traded in and out of gold for many years. Made quite a bit.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
20. Hmmmmmm....I sold some old sterling silver last week....Great timing. I wonder if I got screwed
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:57 AM
Apr 2013
 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
25. Selfishly, I'm wondering about last Wednesday and Thursday...Not that I sold very much
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:10 AM
Apr 2013

I was just selling a few pieces of old sterling flatware for a little bit of extra cash on a whim....But still i'm thinking "Just my luck"

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
22. im looking at buying some
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:58 AM
Apr 2013

but strictly for a short term trade to take advantage of panic... certainly not as an investment

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
26. Absolute evidence that GREED totally drives the economy
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:13 AM
Apr 2013

The panic selling is supposedly the result of China reporting 7.7% growth instead of the expected 8%. Only is a completely insane world can a a 7.7% economic expansion be considered "bad news".

This is also evidence that capitalism is pretty much a sanctified Ponzi scheme as practiced.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
31. i dont think thats the cause
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:24 AM
Apr 2013

i think its margin calls. people bought gold on margin. the collapse caught them off guard and they have to sell out. droping the price more and causing more margin calls.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
36. Agreed
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:40 AM
Apr 2013

Yet another reason to NEVER buy on margin.

But the economic news from China is also causing other howls of anguish from various financial idiots.

Ready4Change

(6,736 posts)
30. I've noted changes in the gold advertisements.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:24 AM
Apr 2013

For a few years we've all seen those adds requesting to buy your gold. Within the last 6 months I've noticed them being mixed with OTHER adds offering to SELL you gold. If I had investing in gold, I would have already sold mine about 3 months ago.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
33. Gold plunging is actually a really bad sign for the global economy.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:31 AM
Apr 2013

The entire recovery was based on this idea called "reflation" - like it or not, the idea was that the banks had to be made flush with cash in order to revive the economy. Rising gold prices were a sign that was working. Falling gold prices are a sign it's failing.

Baitball Blogger

(52,344 posts)
37. Makes no sense,
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 10:48 AM
Apr 2013

Since the right-wingers were hording gold because they thought it would be a more reliable form of currency once the economy crashed.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
52. Well that could be a clue right there, no?
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:00 PM
Apr 2013

The big guys are always smart enough to step out of something before it crashes, and whether it was there or not before, their movement creates inertia in the direction of a crash because of the volumes they unload.

There is also going to be a large movement away from the US dollar in petroleum purchases later this year, if I recall correctly. I wonder if there is a direct relationship between that and what is going on here.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
38. Yes and the banks are using that cash to invest for themselves, they aren't lending it
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:05 AM
Apr 2013

The post above yours, says "Gold is up about 450% since 2000. The DJIA is up around 25%", looks about right to me and indicates gold was in a bubble, due to the RW pump. I wouldn't take it as an overall indicator of the economy.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
43. The right-wing nutters are not what moved gold up so much. It's mostly big speculators globally.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:16 AM
Apr 2013

siligut

(12,272 posts)
44. Yes, China's gold futures slumped
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:31 AM
Apr 2013
Gold Tumbles
Cosco Shipping fell 3.9 percent to 3.49 yuan, the lowest close since Dec. 6. The company reported a first-quarter loss of 45.1 million yuan, ($7.29 million), compared with a profit of 3.8 million yuan a year earlier.
Zijin Mining, China’s largest gold producer, dropped 5.6 percent to 3.20 yuan. Zhongjin Gold Co. (600489), the third biggest, slumped 6.7 percent to 12.93 yuan. Bullion for June delivery on the Shanghai Futures Exchange slumped by the 5 percent daily exchange limit. Spot gold fell 6.2 percent to $1,483 an ounce last week, the biggest drop since December 2011.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-15/china-s-stocks-decline-before-growth-industrial-output-data.html?cmpid=yhoo


China's poor showing has a good deal to do with our day-to-day showing in the market, gold isn't alone in its descent, though it is a stand-out.

Speculators take social data into account as well, I am sure you know that. Though they aren't hiding gold under their beds and in their bunkers the way the RW nutters are.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,996 posts)
49. It's a symptom, not a cause.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:48 AM
Apr 2013

China and India are not growing like planned, so their gold purchases are expected to slow, which means the forward supply of gold will
rise. Investors are unsure if the price will rise, so they are taking profits now.

It's really very simple if you take politics out of it.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
61. The value of gold is mostly tied to the strength of the US dollar.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:20 PM
Apr 2013

and to the gloom and doom idiots who think gold will save their arses when the shit hits the fan.

 

DirtyDawg

(802 posts)
39. Now if...
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:06 AM
Apr 2013

...the bottom would just fall out of the effin gun market - in other words if those damned AR -15s or Bushmasters, or whatever, were to all of a sudden not be worth a bucket of warm spit, all would be right with the world. Maybe if a 100% excise tax could be levied on their purchase it might put a hurt on em...as if.

SunSeeker

(58,282 posts)
45. Randi Rhodes and Thom Hartmann have done ads for gold too. A sponsor's a sponsor, I guess. nt
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:35 AM
Apr 2013

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
46. yeah so dads freaking out about now
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:37 AM
Apr 2013

ie oh well ammo is worth more than gold anyway so time to stock up..

formercia

(18,479 posts)
47. Beck flogs Gold to a bunch of heavily-armed preppers.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 11:44 AM
Apr 2013

Gold falls.

What could possibly happen next?


Beck buys a Class VI armored limo?

Spends all of his days in the Bunker?

Grows eyes in the back of his head?

Time will tell....

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
54. Beck didn't sell gold, he sold overpriced gold coins
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:09 PM
Apr 2013

If Beck had gotten his listeners to buy gold at market prices over the last several years, it wouldn't have been so bad during most of the period. However, he didn't. Instead, he was selling gold coins that were way over-priced. Even if gold prices went up, his listeners would have been ripped off.

efhmc

(16,656 posts)
55. So happy to see it going down. It really was a bubble, unless
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

you wear it. Then it is pretty.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
56. Beck may have a genuine emotional reaction...
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

...but it will not be seen or heard in public.

Dawson Leery

(19,568 posts)
58. Precious metals prices have been falling for the past 6 months.
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:16 PM
Apr 2013

The PM market is one of the most volatile markets around.

I am not sorry to see the Beck cultists lose their shirt.

On the other side, the dollar is gaining strength.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
59. Wow, its down below $1400
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:16 PM
Apr 2013

Cant remember the last time it was that low. Great to see the gold loving cons sweat it!

JHB

(38,211 posts)
63. Why would beck be on suicide watch? You don't think HE puts his money...
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 12:23 PM
Apr 2013

...into that, do you? He's just a salesman.

Why would someone who really believes in gold-hoarding take actions that would drive up the price?

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
70. Gold, like crude oil and every single stock and bond is RIGGED, it's a fact
Mon Apr 15, 2013, 01:29 PM
Apr 2013

There are 6 big banks that run the markets and they run the markets via corruption on top of corruption. They have full government support, "laws" that enable them to play both sides of any market and soulless criminals running everything they do.

Anyone who thinks they is some actual free market still remaining is just as dumb as any "freeper".

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