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Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:56 AM Apr 2013

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Unrec. How is this different from Alex Jones complaining that the police closed the sidewalk FSogol Apr 2013 #1
Buy a dictionary. Look up "different" (eom) cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #2
Agree. Although there's at least one other "person of interest" (or have they gateley Apr 2013 #3
They bombed the marathon and killed people, they tossed IED's out of their car... cynatnite Apr 2013 #4
They tossed IED's out of their car? Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #18
Probably save some lives due to a lack of traffic accidents Fumesucker Apr 2013 #5
maybe, just maybe this has something to do with law enforcement and catching the person they're afte KittyWampus Apr 2013 #8
Eh, I was in Atlanta for the Olympic Park bombing, actually at the park the day before Fumesucker Apr 2013 #16
No you didn't shut it down for Rudolph. former9thward Apr 2013 #22
It wasn't Rudolph that destroyed Jewell, that was the FBI and the M$M Fumesucker Apr 2013 #26
You let Rudolph stroll out of the city. former9thward Apr 2013 #27
The FBI again was in charge of that, I had nothing to do with it Fumesucker Apr 2013 #34
Trashing your thread and any others like it. Marrah_G Apr 2013 #6
It doesn't concern you that the bombers may have planted other bombs to cover their escape? Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #7
Another keyboard expert sharp_stick Apr 2013 #9
Ha ha ha! I have that same problem with my water bill, so I'll wait beside you for the answer...nt MADem Apr 2013 #13
This year I got my neighbors numbers sharp_stick Apr 2013 #19
It's very annoying, isn't it? We have that "new system" too and it sucks. nt MADem Apr 2013 #20
LOL! +1 distantearlywarning Apr 2013 #29
If you're such an expert in law enforcement, why aren't you in charge? randome Apr 2013 #10
Well, you want to call the On Scene Commander and give him the benefit of your expertise. MADem Apr 2013 #11
What are your qualifications in the matter? nt pintobean Apr 2013 #12
This is the new era of terrorism. Baitball Blogger Apr 2013 #14
No. The reasons against out number the reasons for by a large margin. nt ladjf Apr 2013 #15
DU Bullshit Hyperbole at its worst. emulatorloo Apr 2013 #17
Hindsight may very well prove me wrong Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #21
Can you name a single activity that should take precedence over securing ecstatic Apr 2013 #23
Another fucking expert opens their fucking gob. WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #24
Like you never offered an opinion G_j Apr 2013 #28
Derp Derp Derpy Derp WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #31
Thanks for the shining example G_j Apr 2013 #35
Derp Derp Derp WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #36
there is no lock down in Boston. No martial law. but carry on with your hysterics. cali Apr 2013 #25
and carry on G_j Apr 2013 #33
Let me guess leftynyc Apr 2013 #30
What the hell? HappyMe Apr 2013 #32

FSogol

(47,659 posts)
1. Unrec. How is this different from Alex Jones complaining that the police closed the sidewalk
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:58 AM
Apr 2013

to do their investigation?

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
2. Buy a dictionary. Look up "different" (eom)
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:59 AM
Apr 2013

gateley

(62,683 posts)
3. Agree. Although there's at least one other "person of interest" (or have they
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:00 PM
Apr 2013

rescinded that now?) there's not an army of them.

A couple of people couldn't be everywhere at once. Odds are low he's going to target more people. I think he's probably focused on not getting caught.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
4. They bombed the marathon and killed people, they tossed IED's out of their car...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:00 PM
Apr 2013

They killed a cop, robbed a store. They have a history of bomb-making. They obviously have reason to believe that there are more bombs out there.

Over-reaction? No, I don't think so.

Baitball Blogger

(52,686 posts)
18. They tossed IED's out of their car?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:11 PM
Apr 2013

Did they go off?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
5. Probably save some lives due to a lack of traffic accidents
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:01 PM
Apr 2013

I agree with you though, the whole idea of shutting down an entire city for one fugitive is just ludicrous.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
8. maybe, just maybe this has something to do with law enforcement and catching the person they're afte
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:04 PM
Apr 2013

and keeping others safe.

Meanwhile, if something went awry you'd be whinging about who they should have warned people.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. Eh, I was in Atlanta for the Olympic Park bombing, actually at the park the day before
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

We didn't shut down the damn metro area of several million people for Eric Rudolph.

It's a ridiculous overreaction.





former9thward

(33,424 posts)
22. No you didn't shut it down for Rudolph.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:18 PM
Apr 2013

You let him stroll out of Atlanta while destroying the life of an innocent man, Richard Jewell.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
26. It wasn't Rudolph that destroyed Jewell, that was the FBI and the M$M
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:23 PM
Apr 2013

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
27. You let Rudolph stroll out of the city.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:23 PM
Apr 2013

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
34. The FBI again was in charge of that, I had nothing to do with it
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:30 PM
Apr 2013

And these guys could have been long gone from Boston if they had but just driven off.

Hell, I have relatives that lived through the Blitz in London, they damn sure didn't shut down London for German bombers overhead or V1 and V2 flying bombs either.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
6. Trashing your thread and any others like it.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:02 PM
Apr 2013

You have no fucking idea what you are talking about.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,996 posts)
7. It doesn't concern you that the bombers may have planted other bombs to cover their escape?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:04 PM
Apr 2013

Really?

Let's all go frolic outside to express our freedom and not say a WORD if several planted explosives go off and kill and maim even more people, shall we?

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
9. Another keyboard expert
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:05 PM
Apr 2013

opining on areas of his expertise, too bad you're not in charge of everything.

Maybe you could figure out why my fucking water meter doesn't match the bill when you get a chance.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. Ha ha ha! I have that same problem with my water bill, so I'll wait beside you for the answer...nt
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:08 PM
Apr 2013

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
19. This year I got my neighbors numbers
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:16 PM
Apr 2013

and he got the numbers from the guy across the street. They have a new system that's supposed to electronically send the number to the car when it drives by.

Doesn't work too well yet.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. It's very annoying, isn't it? We have that "new system" too and it sucks. nt
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:18 PM
Apr 2013

distantearlywarning

(4,475 posts)
29. LOL! +1
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:25 PM
Apr 2013
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. If you're such an expert in law enforcement, why aren't you in charge?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:06 PM
Apr 2013

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. Well, you want to call the On Scene Commander and give him the benefit of your expertise.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:06 PM
Apr 2013

I'm sure he'll take your advice under careful consideration.

As for those of us who are in the area, we want this little shit caught before he kills anyone else.

 

pintobean

(18,101 posts)
12. What are your qualifications in the matter? nt
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:06 PM
Apr 2013

Baitball Blogger

(52,686 posts)
14. This is the new era of terrorism.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

When you have terrorists who can detonate bombs with a cell phone call, it means they can have a long-range effect until they are caught.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
15. No. The reasons against out number the reasons for by a large margin. nt
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
17. DU Bullshit Hyperbole at its worst.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:10 PM
Apr 2013

Thanks for the textbook example.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
21. Hindsight may very well prove me wrong
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:18 PM
Apr 2013

but I'd like to play devil's advocate here.

My understanding is that there are 5 or more locations of interest right now, in part because the bombers are known to have had many IEDs and possible accomplices. This isn't contained to a tiny area and there are multiple bombs involved. There are concerned about more explosives in a couple houses or apartments connected to the suspects, vehicles, etc.

As of yet, I haven't really heard of any problems of people being arrested for being in the streets, or heads bashed in, or military being called in 'to keep order' (although they do seem to be getting into the search now), or any other signs of real abuse of power.

Additionally, it is surely not martial law, which has a specific definition which is very different from this situation, even given the 'shelter-in-place' orders.

It may be an over-reaction, there may some over-reaching. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if more innocent people get hurt at some point in this process because of all this.

In hindsight, it may have been over the top to close all public transportation and schools in the city and surrounding towns. I don't know. But I don't think it is necessarily due to abuse of authority in the way you are positing. The militarization of police in general is scary. Our rights are vulnerable in general in this country. I just don't know that this is the case we need to worry about. It ain't N.O. after Katrina. Now THAT was an example of martial law and abuse of authority.

I feel the need to use a disclaimer I used earlier today: I am NOT a cop apologist/defender. I err on the side of 'cops are pigs'. So I am sort of amazed I find myself posting these sorts of things today...and as I said at the beginning, hindsight could prove me wrong and make me feel more naive than I have since I was a kid, LOL.

ecstatic

(35,131 posts)
23. Can you name a single activity that should take precedence over securing
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:20 PM
Apr 2013

an unhinged kid who has guns and bombs (and maybe has info on future planned attacks)? Unless it's a medical emergency, enjoy the day off FFS.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
24. Another fucking expert opens their fucking gob.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:21 PM
Apr 2013

"Better to stay silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt." - Mark Twain

G_j

(40,570 posts)
28. Like you never offered an opinion
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:25 PM
Apr 2013

on a situation you weren't directly involved
in?

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
31. Derp Derp Derpy Derp
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:26 PM
Apr 2013

is all I hear from you.

G_j

(40,570 posts)
35. Thanks for the shining example
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:30 PM
Apr 2013

of how have a civil conversation.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
36. Derp Derp Derp
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:30 PM
Apr 2013
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
25. there is no lock down in Boston. No martial law. but carry on with your hysterics.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:22 PM
Apr 2013

wouldn't want to interfere with your righteous crap.

G_j

(40,570 posts)
33. and carry on
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:29 PM
Apr 2013

with your determination to state your opinion in a less than civil manner. Does anyone even know how to carry on a conversation any more?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
30. Let me guess
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:26 PM
Apr 2013

You're NOWHERE NEAR Boston? And what training do you have in catching terrorists?

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
32. What the hell?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:27 PM
Apr 2013

So it would be better to let all and sundry come and go at will. That way, if that guy has more bombs, grenades and guns, more people can die.

It isn't 'marshal law' either. It's 'shelter in place'.

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