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YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:58 PM Apr 2013

I was wrong...

I was among those who speculated that homegrown right-wing extremists might have been responsible for the horrific events in Boston.

Looks like I was wrong. At any rate, I hope Mr. Tsarnaev is brought to justice soon.

Crazy world we live in...

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I was wrong... (Original Post) YoungDemCA Apr 2013 OP
Recursion is here to laugh at you, apparently. nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #1
Me too. I have a right to speculate. Lint Head Apr 2013 #2
I don't think speculation should have been a problem. FrodosPet Apr 2013 #25
I agree. Lint Head Apr 2013 #26
I was wrong, too. I felt there would be no religious or political reasons, just a couple of gateley Apr 2013 #3
My first thought was a right-wing nut, too. City Lights Apr 2013 #4
You know, to most of us it doesn't matter who is wrong or right. randome Apr 2013 #5
What do you mean? They are rightwing extremists with guns/bullets/bombs/grenades graham4anything Apr 2013 #6
And there's nothing to indicate that they learned their hate and stuff on the internet. premium Apr 2013 #11
That is the point. Does the OP have inside information on the motive? graham4anything Apr 2013 #13
They are Islamic terrorists. premium Apr 2013 #15
Eh. Being Islamic and being a terrorist does not necessarily equate to 'Islamic terrorist'. randome Apr 2013 #17
Alright, premium Apr 2013 #19
WTF??? I have been watching all day, have not seen this. Are you watching Fox? graham4anything Apr 2013 #20
Nope, premium Apr 2013 #24
I was wrong too... sarisataka Apr 2013 #7
See how easy that is, everyone who jumped to conclusions? Dreamer Tatum Apr 2013 #8
it doesn't matter Enrique Apr 2013 #9
I speculated it was internal nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #10
I'm going to alert on this thread - no one on the intertubes hedgehog Apr 2013 #12
A lot of people speculated, including myself... kentuck Apr 2013 #14
Religious extremists are usually considered right wing. Even if the religion is Islam. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2013 #16
Speculation is fine deutsey Apr 2013 #18
It does appear to be home grown BainsBane Apr 2013 #21
K&R RZM Apr 2013 #22
I was wrong too. Amaril Apr 2013 #23

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
25. I don't think speculation should have been a problem.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:52 PM
Apr 2013

I think the biggest problem was people who refused to consider other possibilities, or worse, who were cheerleading for a particular group to be responsible because of the political benefit derived.

gateley

(62,683 posts)
3. I was wrong, too. I felt there would be no religious or political reasons, just a couple of
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:00 PM
Apr 2013

young guys who just felt like doing it.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
5. You know, to most of us it doesn't matter who is wrong or right.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:02 PM
Apr 2013

If any of you feel the need to equate wrong with the need to apologize, I say you should not bother.

There is a difference between 'being wrong' and 'doing wrong'. If you didn't wrong anyone on DU, no apology should be necessary.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
6. What do you mean? They are rightwing extremists with guns/bullets/bombs/grenades
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:06 PM
Apr 2013

most likely learned their hate and stuff on the internet as there is nothing to indicate anything else

fame seekers imho

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
11. And there's nothing to indicate that they learned their hate and stuff on the internet.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:24 PM
Apr 2013
 

premium

(3,731 posts)
15. They are Islamic terrorists.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:30 PM
Apr 2013

Their social media are filled with radical islamic material and postings.
No inside info, it's been all over the news.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. Eh. Being Islamic and being a terrorist does not necessarily equate to 'Islamic terrorist'.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:34 PM
Apr 2013

Was Timothy McVeigh a Christian? Would that make him a 'Christian terrorist'?

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
19. Alright,
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:37 PM
Apr 2013

They are terrorists who happen to be of the Islamic faith.
Better?

In no way am I blaming the Islamic faith for what these 2 terrorists did.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
7. I was wrong too...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:14 PM
Apr 2013

I claimed no one who was posting 110% sure it was a white male teabagger etc. would ever say they were mistaken

You proved ME wrong and I salute you

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
9. it doesn't matter
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:20 PM
Apr 2013

hopefully you didn't express your speculation in an obnoxious manner and insist you were right and everyone else was an idiot. Which most people don't, and so guessing wrong is no big deal.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. I speculated it was internal
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:23 PM
Apr 2013

It was. I just did not go so far as to say militias...even if highly suggestive.

It's still internal. It's the nightmare that the FBI has speculated for years, but it's still internal

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
12. I'm going to alert on this thread - no one on the intertubes
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:25 PM
Apr 2013

ever admits to making a mistake, so there's something fishy here!

kentuck

(115,407 posts)
14. A lot of people speculated, including myself...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:26 PM
Apr 2013

Here is my first read on it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2680125

But I changed my opinions as others explained their reasonings. I don't think you have to apologize to anyone on DU?

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
18. Speculation is fine
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:37 PM
Apr 2013

as long as you keep in mind that's all it is. We're human beings, not Vulcans, and are hard-wired to create meaning out of the chaos around us.

Just don't believe everything you think.

BainsBane

(57,757 posts)
21. It does appear to be home grown
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:39 PM
Apr 2013

rather than an international plot. The guys are immigrants, but it doesn't appear to have an international organization, which makes it domestic terrorism in my mind.

Amaril

(1,267 posts)
23. I was wrong too.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:44 PM
Apr 2013

There were things that -- in my opinion -- pointed to a right-wing extremist (the last mile of the race was being run in honor of Sandy Hook & the parents have been wonderfully outspoken advocates for stricter gun laws -- and we've all heard / read the nasty things that have been coming out of the far-right fringe in reference to them). I didn't post that thought here, but I did pop off with it to someone IRL that I knew better than to say it to (right-wing co-worker. I normally keep my opinions on such matters to myself around this person because there is no such thing as a "reasonable" discussion of differing opinions with her and I know that -- it just kind of slipped out because it had been percolating in my head all day). She, of course, flew off the handle and even went so far as to post something on FB later about "liberals who take their marching orders from CNN should be ashamed of themselves" (I didn't respond because I don't watch CNN, so I figured must have been talking about someone else. ).

She's not here today, so I haven't had a chance to admit I was wrong, but I probably will when I see her next. Yes, she will gloat and feel she won a minor victory, but I believe in living my life a certain way which includes owning it when I'm wrong. No, she would not do the same were our roles reversed, but I don't have to live inside her heart (or with her conscience).

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