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Taverner

(55,476 posts)
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:40 PM Apr 2013

I want to know why they did it

What they they expect to accomplish?

"Some people just like to watch the world burn" you say

Yes, but there is always something behind that desire

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I want to know why they did it (Original Post) Taverner Apr 2013 OP
I want to know too. LeftofObama Apr 2013 #1
+1 Electric Monk Apr 2013 #18
me too TeamPooka Apr 2013 #19
Well clearly you are a bigot then because trying to suss out motives, rationales and background riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #2
the religion/ethnicity/race dipsydoodle Apr 2013 #5
I totally disagree. If Tamarlan became radicalized on the Chechen issue for example riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #9
Also, people trying to get in touch with a culture they don't fully understand are prime targets... Barack_America Apr 2013 #15
True that. Another example where knowing the religion for example of a particular terrorist matters riderinthestorm Apr 2013 #16
my working theory right now is they watched xXx too many times snooper2 Apr 2013 #3
You forgot..."while smoking dope and listening to rap." Zorra Apr 2013 #13
Didnt the eldest brother say he did not have... SummerSnow Apr 2013 #4
Terrorists, IMO, want the attention. TDale313 Apr 2013 #6
didn't the uncle say they were losers ? JI7 Apr 2013 #7
Closely related to that are questions about the dynamic between the brothers Animal Chin Apr 2013 #8
That's why I want this guy caught alive. geomon666 Apr 2013 #10
I think it's critical we find out, lest this incident repeat itself. Barack_America Apr 2013 #11
This incident will repeat itself ..... oldhippie Apr 2013 #14
It is important we know if this can help it from ever happening again. avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #12
We know at least one of them was a sociopath. applegrove Apr 2013 #17
Uncle Ruslan said it best meow2u3 Apr 2013 #20

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
5. the religion/ethnicity/race
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:47 PM
Apr 2013

of the perps has sfa to do with why they did it which is the subject of the OP.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
9. I totally disagree. If Tamarlan became radicalized on the Chechen issue for example
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:54 PM
Apr 2013

even to a small extent, it will have dire consequences and real ramifications. Putin will seize upon it to club the Chechens even harder for example. It may not even be his "primary" motivation but it will certainly have consequences.

I believe that kind of stuff matters and saying it doesn't is naive. You participate in the LBN threads on say Syria - historic grudges play out in nasty, unexpected ways. Trying to ascertain the motives/race/ethnicity/religion - Sunni or Shia especially - of militants and their terrorist attacks is paramount to understanding.



Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
15. Also, people trying to get in touch with a culture they don't fully understand are prime targets...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:07 PM
Apr 2013

...for radicals. For example, the popularity of the IRA amongst ethnic Irish in this country (as I notice your avatar-this too is my heritage--my grandmother, daughter of Irish parents, who had never been to Ireland herself, would talk of longing to shoot an Englishman

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
16. True that. Another example where knowing the religion for example of a particular terrorist matters
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:13 PM
Apr 2013

as well as their ethnicity, culture etc. in order to fully understand motives.

FWIW, I am an Irish citizen. I won't derail this thread with my views about the "troubles" but they do inform my perspective on stuff like this (and I happen to know dipsydoodle is English - heh).

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
4. Didnt the eldest brother say he did not have...
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:46 PM
Apr 2013

any American friends? That there are no values? Oh and that he couldn't relate to Americans. He was angry with America. Stupid way to deal with that anger.

TDale313

(7,822 posts)
6. Terrorists, IMO, want the attention.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:47 PM
Apr 2013

For a cause, payback for a perceived injustice, to tell the world "fu, I won't be ignored" And sadly, they get it.

JI7

(93,617 posts)
7. didn't the uncle say they were losers ?
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:50 PM
Apr 2013

people deal with things differently. some people take things out on others if they for whatever reason don't get what they want, fail etc.

there are people like Malala in Pakistan who was shot and her focus is on continuing to get an education and help other girls do the same.

and then there are people who want to hurt others over things like taking too long in drive through at mcdonalds , or some personal rejection.

Animal Chin

(175 posts)
8. Closely related to that are questions about the dynamic between the brothers
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:52 PM
Apr 2013

Was Suspect 1 the leader and Suspect 2 the follower? 7 years is a pretty big age difference between brothers...was Suspect 1 a father figure to Suspect 2? Or were they equals in this, both driven by the same sick ideology/malice?

I had the same questions around Columbine...I can understand (but not really) how one loner (Cho, Lanza) can go off his rocker and do something like this, but it's interesting to me when two or more coordinate to do it. How do they come up with the idea? Does one propose it and the other goes along? What's that conversation like? Are they really both into it 100% or is the non-Alpha just going along with it?

geomon666

(7,519 posts)
10. That's why I want this guy caught alive.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:55 PM
Apr 2013

That's the only way you're going to get any real answers.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
11. I think it's critical we find out, lest this incident repeat itself.
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 03:58 PM
Apr 2013

How did we lose these kids? Was this an issue of a dysfunctional family life combined with the pressure of being immigrants? Was there something more? Like you, I have to know, if for no other reason than I am raising a young son myself and shudder to think of such hatred entering his heart.

 

oldhippie

(3,249 posts)
14. This incident will repeat itself .....
Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:06 PM
Apr 2013

... many times, often, and all over the world. All the reasons you cited, and many more. Human nature does not change. You can't catch everybody all the time.

Of this I am sure.

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