Suspected Boston Marathon bombers lived in "squalid, ramshackle" apartment

[HiPointDem]

mmm -- i don't know that i'd use those words, but here's the pictures, for those who claimed the kids were 'living large':

Photos snapped by the Daily News show the unit in a Cambridge, Mass., building in disarray with clothes piled everywhere and a half-eaten meal left on the table. The apartment also had a makeshift plywood door.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1323037.1366501373!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/usa.jpg

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1323036.1366501436!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/usa.jpg

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1323043.1366501740!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image-1-1323043.jpg

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1323042.1366501566!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/image-1-1323042.jpg

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-marathon-bombers-lived-squalid-ramshackle-apartment-article-1.1323047

more at link...

this seems to be the same 'third-floor apartment' where the family had lived together earlier. the mother earned money by doing private facials:

The first few years the third-floor apartment was often crowded with her two sons, now identified as the alleged Boston Bombers, and her two daughters, one of whom was around my age. It was definitely not a glamorous place to get a facial, as the “spa” was set up in her living room, and during these years the family expanded. The staircase was crowded with their shoes, the house filled with noises of arguing, cooking, etc. She would often apologize for this. Her daughters and Dzhokhar, the younger son, always struck me as perfectly nice and normal kids about my age. As far as I knew the daughters also attended Rindge (the local public high school) along with their brother. She gave a damn good facial, often working on my skin for two or three hours, and this is why my sister, mom and I continued to go back to her home for years.

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/21/the_tsarnaevs_and_me/


it doesn't sound like a very expansive lifestyle.

[Recursion]

1. Bah. Check out their neighbors in Lower Allston

That is some squalid and ramshackle right there...

[HiPointDem]

2. i don't think it's particularly squalid looking either, except for how messy they were and the

plywood door.

but it's not the ritz, either. and if that's where their mother was living with two sons, two daughters and a son-in-law & child before, giving facials in the living room, it seems like it would be a bit crowded and kind of subsistency...

[marshall]

20. For two guys who never had a job, it looks great!

Still, they could have taken more time to tidy up.

[HiPointDem]

21. they've had jobs.

[marshall]

43. Like what?

I mean legal jobs.

[MADem]

61. The younger kid worked for a bit as a lifeguard in summer and was fired because

he didn't show up for work.

Big Bro called himself a "driver" on his marriage license.


What was he driving?

He wasn't working. Neither was his brother.

At least not at anything legal.

IMO.

[MADem]

3. They lived like pigs.

Paint and a replacement door and the landlord can get a bundle for that place--it's walk-friendly and close to mass transit:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/410-Norfolk-St-Cambridge-MA-02139/56428019_zpid/

People who aren't from the area don't understand that it's very expensive to rent even what looks like a "crappy" apartment. Hit the classifieds and have a look at median rents in Cambridge. And "Tam's" wife was not living at this apartment, so he had another place where rent needed to be paid, as well.

No one seems able to explain how a guy with no income--save his wife's paycheck as a home health aide--was able to afford rent in two places, cars, 22K tuition and board for his brother (not on scholarship--he'd flunked seven or eight classes), gym memberships, expensive clothing, etc. To say nothing of pressure cookers costing a hundred and fifty bucks each at Williams Sonoma by the half dozen, and all of the other materials they used to make PC/Pipe bombs.

You're "living large" when your income doesn't match your assets. Who was funding this guy with no damn job?

[HiPointDem]

4. Yes, it would be interesting to know how much income they had and where it came from. Strange

that the media show so little interest in this question.

However, this is not 'living large,' even if they don't seem to have income to support it.


the wife *was* living in that apartment, per this:


The FBI would like to speak to Katherine Russell Tsarnaev, seen here leaving the Cambridge house where she lived with husband Tamerlan Tsarnaev, her lawyer says.



Her lawyer, Amato DeLuca, told The Associated Press he was trying to work out the details of an interview. His client, he said, worked up to 80 hours a week as a home health aide while Tamerlan watched their daughter. He said she didn't have any suspicions he might be plotting something.

He said she last saw her husband at home on Thursday morning, hours before he and his younger brother allegedly executed a campus police officer, pulled off the carjacking, and led police on a wild bomb-tossing chase that ended in a 200-bullet gun battle.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/22/17860373-officials-hospitalized-bombing-suspect-says-he-and-brother-acted-alone-motivated-by-religion?lite


and apparently the younger boy worked some:

An aquatic coordinator at Harvard University told CNN that Dzhokhar was hired as a lifeguard for the university's pool about two and a half years ago.

http://www.businessinsider.com/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-2013-4

[MADem]

9. If she lived in that "pigsty" I doubt it was as "squalid"

as the NYDN made it out to be. What kind of mother would allow a child to live in that kind of "squalor" particularly someone who came from a very nice neighborhood in North Kingstown RI?

When the FBI tosses a place, too, it can often look "squalid" after they are done.

Other sources say she wasn't living at that address. Some say she was living with her parents or in another location.

It defies credulity that this American bride didn't "notice" that her husband had purchased a half dozen or more pressure cookers--high end ones, too, that cost a hundred and fifty bucks each.

She didn't notice the pipe bombs laying around that the FBI found when they tossed the place? Or the guns they used in the shootout in Watertown? The bullets for those guns? Is it just me that thinks 'cough-horseshit-cough' that she's trying to play the "clueless" card? If she lived there, she couldn't possibly be clueless. If she didn't live there, that's more likely.

Her parents are selling their house--they just put it on the market on Friday. It makes me wonder why they want to disappear, after living there for fourteen years and having ties to the community and jobs (dad/doctor; mom/nurse) --perhaps they know that information will come out that implicates their daughter, and they will need the money from the sale for her defense... or perhaps they are just humiliated by the association.

There are huge pieces of this picture that are still missing. The money piece is the biggest of all.


If we are going to use NYDN as a cite, they also aver that the children were radicalized by the shoplifting mother, who invited a fundamentalist cleric to the home to indoctrinate the two young men.

Tamerlan was investigated by the FBI two years ago only because "he loved Islam," she said. He "didn't do anything bad."
But their uncle Ruslan Tsarni said the mother was a bad influence on her sons, and introduced them to Islamic fundametalism by inviting a hardline cleric to give inflammatory lessons at the family's kitchen table.
"My brother lost control of it (his family) a long time ago. The mother was very influential. She says they would share everything with her, she had a very strong infuence over them. She was controlling," he was quoted as saying in the Daily Mail Online site.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/tamerlan-tsarnaev-words-mother-love-article-1.1324117#ixzz2RHFGdpF6

I do know that the younger kid was fired from that lifeguard job for not showing up. A lifeguard job won't pay 22K per annum for a UMASS Dartmouth education, though--and he has flunked seven or eight courses, so he's not a scholarship kid.

There are huge gaps in the income stream here. It just doesn't add up.

[HiPointDem]

10. lots of sources say lots of things. but there's a picture of her in front of the apt, supposedly

returning for some belongings and a cat.

there are a lot of things that don't add up.

the media seems to have little interest in adding them.

[MADem]

18. I think they're afraid of "rampant" speculation.

I find it interesting that

1. Katherine the wife has "lawyered up;"

2. Her parents have put their nearly half million dollar home (they've lived there fourteen years) on the market just this past Friday.

3. The Feds want to have a conversation with the wife.

[sofa king]

70. There's no lab in the home.

From my own perspective, that looks like a house with two dudes living in it, being about as unkempt and careless as one would expect two guys living together to be. Less messy than I am, I should add.

So then, we should expect to find the place strewn with bomb-making materials or associated evidence, like empty gunpowder bags, disassembled fireworks, brad nail packages never thrown away, soldering guns and so on. They did it all in a week and much of their mess appears much older than that.

We're talking about two guys who ran an operation in the midst of thousands of cameras and yet failed--totally, in the case of the younger one--to conceal their identities.

I wouldn't expect them to clean up at home, either. So where was their work-space?

Perhaps that is one of the questions investigators have for the wife....

And yes, it also appears to me as if the two were living large. I can think of a lot of "heavy lifting" that a boxer could do off the books, all of it criminal in nature, most of it requiring a wealthier criminal willing to pay. So who is that guy?

[MADem]

74. I thought I read that the FBI found seven pipe bombs in the house.

They supposedly found BBs and some other affiliated materials in Young Brother's dorm room.

Here in MA they showed footage of the Feebs going and searching a shed down the street from their house, where "Pa" used to fix cars. They took some stuff out. Don't know if it is useful or not, though.

I am also very curious to know who "Tony Soprano" is in this case--if there was a Tony bossing these two around.

This is a curious case, mostly for the huge gaps in the story. I find it fascinating for that reason. I am massively p-o'd at these two jerks for messing with our "f-ing" city (to quote Big Papi), but the case is holding my interest.

I hope they fill in all these blanks!

[sofa king]

75. I stand corrected, then.

It doesn't look as if the bomb-making was terribly complicated or would take up much space, so cleanup might have been a matter of taking out the trash.

Perhaps they made a special effort to pull off that trick. If so, it's about the only operational security that they took, aside from keeping their plan among themselves long enough to pull it off.

[Bluenorthwest]

36. It is really not the media's job to add them up. We have DOJ and the Commonwealth of

MA to do the adding, thanks. The media can then report what has been learned.

[HiPointDem]

48. there's this thing we used to have called 'investigative reporting'.

[graham4anything]

34. What angle are you playing on this thread?

[Fumesucker]

5. There's plywood in a window as well

And if the door and a window are that messed up there's likely to be other things wrong with the apartment too. It could cost a great deal of money to get that place up to code. Places where rents are that high tend to have other costs to match on things like contractors to renovate buildings.

[MADem]

7. Apartments are scarce in that town.

I have a friend who owns a couple of triple deckers in Cambridge and she does very well. She does do a good job maintaining them, though but she gets top dollar. She doesn't have a vacancy problem.

Someone will rent that joint with a new door and a glazier to come in and replace the broken window glass, and they will pay plenty, too.

[Katashi_itto]

12. Not who...it not a dark op. They were funding themselves through either,

helping with a chop and shop, hence all the nice cars, or drug mules. Everything I've read makes me think thats what they were up too.

[MADem]

13. Chop shop....interesting theory!! nt

[Katashi_itto]

14. It makes sense. Dads a mechanic, all the constant fancy cars....family seems steeped in illegalitie

[HiPointDem]

15. what constant fancy cars?

[Katashi_itto]

17. From what I read, the guys kept having different cars.

[jberryhill]

27. I used to know guys like that

One guy in particular that I knew in college. Never had a steady job, but he'd find decent used cars with minor problems, drive them for a while and either fix or conceal the problems, and flip them.

Lots of "for sale by owner" folks on eBay who pick up cars at auction and turn them around.

[Gormy Cuss]

46. That plywood door suggests to me that it was an illegal apartment split.

IOW, legally it wasn't a separate unit but someone divided it for more revenue.
Zillow says the building was sold in 1998 for 32K -- that isn't possible for a market rate sale unless it was condemned. In 1992 while still subject to rent control it sold for 180K. In '98 a building that size in that neighborhood would have sold somewhere north of 350K. I wonder what the deal was with the ownership transfer.

[MADem]

55. Totally possible if it was a family-to-family sale.

No condemnation needed.

It frequently happens that a family member will give-sell a building to another family member, and make them take out a mortgage of a minor amount to build up the credit of the purchasing family member. They collect ten grand a month in rent, they pay a grand in mortgage--or less.

I don't think there was any condemnation happening--I think there might have been family business happening, though.

[Gormy Cuss]

56. Right, not a market rate sale. n/t

[NotThisTime]

47. That squalid apartment probably costs 3 grand a month if it has 2 bedrooms

It isn't a cheap area, the fact young men live like slobs doesn't surprise me...

[MADem]

54. Twenty three hundred, anyway--they are on the 3rd floor!

We don't know if the FBI broke the door and replaced it with a piece of plywood, either.

There are no pictures of the actual interior of the house, save for the pic of the kitchen table with the plate of food, taken through a hole in the door.

All other pics are of the outside hall and what they could get without going "inside" the place--if they were in there, they surely would have gotten bedroom and living room shots.

I am wondering how many units are in this place, too...

[dsc]

52. the cookers wouldn't cost 150 if they were on sale

I got one from macy's for only 35 but it was on black friday.

[MADem]

53. Same brand? Same size?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-21/boston-bombing-hinders-spanish-cooker-maker-s-cash-quest.html

Fagor Group, which manufactured at least one of the pressure cookers used to house the bombs, is contending with the publicity just as it seeks financing, said a person with knowledge of the company’s situation. Fagor needs about 60 million euros ($78 million) immediately to pay down debt and is struggling because of Spain’s credit crisis, the person said, declining to be identified because the negotiations are private.

Based in the town of Mondragon in Spain’s Basque region, Fagor sells about 200,000 cookers a year in the U.S., with a market share of about 40 percent, according to Elena Goirizelaia, a spokeswoman for the company’s domestic appliances unit. Of those, some 50,000 had the same six-liter capacity as the ones used to make the bombs. The average Fagor cooker costs about $140.

...The fact that the bombs were made with Fagor cookers shouldn’t affect the reputation of the brand “even though nobody really wants to get involved in anything negative like that,” according to Victor Conde, a professor of marketing at Nebrija University in Madrid....

[Mojorabbit]

64. You can get them cheaper.

http://www.amazon.com/Fagor-Splendid-6-Quart-Pressure-Cooker/dp/B0000717AU
I paid even less than that onsale for mine.

[MADem]

67. I thought the cops said they used this type

http://www.zappos.com/fagor-futuro-6-qt-pressure-cooker-stainless-steel?si1409346=&channel=126&mr:referralID=NA&mr:trackingCode=B6E426E1-9788-E111-BFFC-001B21BCB944

No handle, side locks. Pricey.

I could be mistaken, but that's what they were showing on TV.

[Mojorabbit]

71. If so then that model IS more expensive.

It goes on sale alot but unless they were waiting for that to happen they probably did pay a buck twenty or so for them.

[dsc]

76. Not sure mine is 6 liters

and I think the brand is different too.

[MADem]

77. I don't know for a fact, but I thought I read (I've

read so much crap it all blends together) that they bought the high-end, stainless steel ones by that manufacturer because when they break apart when used as a bomb, they make very effective shards--much better than the aluminum versions.

[dsc]

79. mine is aluminum

[MADem]

80. I think they shatter sooner, so the stainless steel ones do better

at "containing" the energy before it finally fails. More bang for their sick buck, I guess.

I'm waiting to see if Mamma gets arrested tomorrow. Apparently she skipped out on her OCT court date for felony shoplifting last June, and the police have said they've got handcuffs with her name on 'em. Hope her (ex) husband brought enough money for bail...!

And since she's a flight risk....well....!

Also, the latest on their money situation is that they were getting WELFARE payments in addition to the "off the books" money they were getting from this-n-that. The GOP are freaking and peaking over that, of course...~!

[JI7]

6. it just looks like they didn't clean up

[Quantess]

8. Young men who don't clean up after themselves,

living a decent looking flat. Not bad for being unemployed students. But what about the fancy cars, and all the other things?

[HiPointDem]

11. what fancy cars?

[snooper2]

22. The ones that they brought to the auto mechanic across the way from where they lived

He gave interviews, you should have all this data by now


He also talked about their friends, they all brought their nice cars there, (over years), always dressed in nice clothes, talked about going out to clubs--

[HiPointDem]

23. link?

[snooper2]

24. sure

[maddezmom]

25. Link

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/04/mechanic_suspect_was_in_rush_for_car_day_after_bombing

[maddezmom]

16. Wow, looks disgusting. I don't believe his wife and daughter lived there

recently.

[Gin]

38. Me either.....no signs that mother and child lived there according to article...

She may have gone there but not to live.....boy....this story is full of twists and turns..

The 2 guys were slobs......but....maybe the cops tossed the place and made it worse....

Still..no window? Maybe one of thier practices blew it out....

[a kennedy]

39. Could this be from AFTER the police ransacked the place??

Just curious, I've seen enough cop movies and TV shows that the police sure don't handle people's stuff with kid gloves when searching apartments or homes.

[maddezmom]

40. Sure, but the floor in the dinette pic looks like it hasn't been mopped in months.

[a kennedy]

41. ugh, right......that's bad. eom

[marshall]

19. When all your money goes to buying bomb equipment...

There isn't much left for decorations and luxuries.

[liberalmuse]

26. It looks like two guys lived there.

Not exactly squalid.

[jberryhill]

28. Single young men living in a dirty apartment?

Who ever heard of such a thing.

[Bluenorthwest]

33. Except the single one lived in a dorm, the other was married with a child.

Wife and kid live in the 'burbs with her folk. So not single men living there. One single man who actually lived in dorm. A married man who actually lived with his in laws.

[maddezmom]

42. In the wife's statement from her attorneys, it says she lived there

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/23/updates-in-the-aftermath-of-the-boston-marathon/
Public Statement on Behalf of Katherine Russell:
Our firm is representing Katherine Russell and she has asked us to make a short statement. As you know from news reports, Katie married her husband in June of 2010. Since then, she has been living in Cambridge, raising her child and working long hours, caring for people in their homes who are unable to care for themselves. Katie grew up in Rhode Island and has always remained close to her parents and sisters here, as well as her extended family. She is fortunate to have the support of her loving family now, as they, too, struggle to come to terms with these events and the deep sorrow we all feel following the events of last week. Meanwhile, she is doing everything she can to assist with the investigation.

The injuries and loss of life — to people who came to celebrate a race and a holiday — has caused profound distress and sorrow to Katie and her family. The reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. As a mother, a sister, a daughter, a wife, Katie deeply mourns the pain and loss to innocent victims — students, law enforcement, families and our community. In the aftermath of this tragedy, she, her daughter and her family are trying to come to terms with these events.

Thank you.

[Bluenorthwest]

29. The younger one had a dorm room where he seems to have lived even after the bombing

so 'they' did not live in this place, between them they had this, the dorm, the in-laws place where the 'wife' actually lives. She may have married a murderer, but I still doubt she was raising a child in such a messy place.
The OP needs to shop Craigslist for Cambridge and get an idea of the rents. This position that it's all free and easy to have cars and travel abroad and homes and dorms and classes and clothing from magazines just does not make sense.
I think these guys were professional criminals. Chop shoppy, low level dealer type smarm.

[MADem]

57. +1,000 - Big bro listed himself as a "driver" on his marriage

license. I wonder what he was driving--drugs or money?

To me, he gives off the vibe of a Russian Christopher Moltisanti of Sopranos fame. A petit-capo....an enforcer.

[graham4anything]

30. Or just another college type dorm room. Anyone know any kids that pick up after themselves?

[Enrique]

31. omg a half-eaten meal left on the table

[KoKo]

32. Interesting the DN article doesn't mention bombmaking equipment

From the article:

Athletic gear, including boxing gloves, skis, numerous sneakers and a basketball, was found inside the Tsarnaev brothers’ Cambridge apartment. Nothing overtly menacing was found. The door of their unit was made of makeshift plywood.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/boston-marathon-bombers-lived-squalid-ramshackle-apartment-article-1.1323047#ixzz2RJnzbIJ5

[HiPointDem]

59. yes, so one wonders where they kept the powder or whatever.

[KoKo]

78. Agree...so many "hanging threads" with these two. Why didn't their Apartment

reveal much MORE than it did? Surely there were "sniffing dogs, fingerprint teams and forensic bomb experts to detect powder..for pipe bombs, the original Pressure Cooker Bomb and so much more!

How could there be no evidence of any of that from this report?

[Rex]

35. Looks like a pigpen

Which can be normal for two young men living in a house.

[maddezmom]

37. Most recently Dzhokhar Tsarnaev lived in a dorm

Last edited Tue Apr 23, 2013, 05:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Supposedly this is where Tamerlan, his wife and child lived. however I believe she was living in RI with her parents. She went to the house to pick up her cat and other items, but that does not mean she was really living there.

On edit: looks like the wife did live there

Public Statement on Behalf of Katherine Russell:
Our firm is representing Katherine Russell and she has asked us to make a short statement. As you know from news reports, Katie married her husband in June of 2010. Since then, she has been living in Cambridge, raising her child and working long hours, caring for people in their homes who are unable to care for themselves. Katie grew up in Rhode Island and has always remained close to her parents and sisters here, as well as her extended family. She is fortunate to have the support of her loving family now, as they, too, struggle to come to terms with these events and the deep sorrow we all feel following the events of last week. Meanwhile, she is doing everything she can to assist with the investigation.

The injuries and loss of life — to people who came to celebrate a race and a holiday — has caused profound distress and sorrow to Katie and her family. The reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. As a mother, a sister, a daughter, a wife, Katie deeply mourns the pain and loss to innocent victims — students, law enforcement, families and our community. In the aftermath of this tragedy, she, her daughter and her family are trying to come to terms with these events.

Thank you.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/23/updates-in-the-aftermath-of-the-boston-marathon/

[MADem]

60. Lawyers do lie....

I "lived" in MA for several decades, paid taxes to my fair Commonwealth, and never set foot in the joint. It was my "home of record."

If she actually lived in that apartment, she really has some 'splainin' to do.

She couldn't have missed all that bomb making. It defies credulity.

And why does she need a lawyer? Why are her parents selling their house (just put on the market last Friday)? Will she need an expensive defense?

Something stinks. The FBI wants to talk to her, and she's lawyered up. Like Gomer says, surprise, surprize!

And last off, what is this "Katie" shit? I guess Katerina--which she adopted as her "new" name when she got married--isn't cutting it anymore. Gotta tug at those heartstrings.

How long before she loses the hijab and says "He made me do it?"

And maybe he did.

Time will reveal all...

[geomon666]

44. Geez, looks cleaner than my place

*runs to clean in shame*

[Matariki]

45. I thought that was the point, that they suddenly had money in contrast to their normal circumstances

specifically re the $900 shoes just before the bombing. But whatever. I'm sure the FBI is all over their finances and purchases and all of us wanna-be internet sleuths can speculate til we're bored.

[Fawke Em]

49. Anyone notice the pressure cooker in photo 4?

Looking in through the kitchen...

[flamingdem]

50. They actually used that one

to make rice

[Fawke Em]

51. Wow.

[HiPointDem]

58. that's a big pressure cooker. it seems too big for the backpacks they carried, actually -- i mean

it seems like it would stick out more than the pictures show.

[MADem]

62. That looks like an electric rice cooker to me, not a pressure cooker. nt

[HiPointDem]

63. they don't all look alike. could be either. to me it looks most like the 1st pressure cooker

pictured at the link below.

pressure cookers:

http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=pressure+cooker&oq=pressure+cooker&gs_l=hp.3..0j0i3j0l8.1288.6092.1.6505.15.11.0.4.4.0.295.2136.0j7j4.11.0...0.0...1c.1.11.hp.m96MNSw4LOg&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45580626,d.cGE&fp=b1abc50c9856b45a&biw=1024&bih=607

rice cookers:

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&q=rice+cooker&oq=rice+cooker&gs_l=serp.3..0i7l4j0l2j0i7l4.45605.46139.1.46389.4.4.0.0.0.1.194.683.0j4.4.0...0.0...1c.1.11.serp.QuIk5x-bcEo&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&fp=b1abc50c9856b45a&biw=1024&bih=607

[MADem]

66. Who knows, but the brand they used was the

hundred and forty buck "Fagor," according to police/media reports.



Maybe they used an electric rice cooker-ish looking one for variety--we'll have to get that detail from Little Brother, I guess.

[HiPointDem]

68. this fagor model looks much like the one on the chair.

http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/public/HvzhpFbexwWg9LiYU9Xjns6WYIOWoyODy1IMaA3tqNIqh5mE4Xwin_yBA1kOAoMDLfIZMSuCntqvrpPbq8I8Ct8zWfdJJjFrUJRFDkOzi5DX7OWHfrbUEJ5yGfFT-bfavoDIT4apJJs2f-m6CgGlX3w1hAFzGGDwYVSB2G5QT2y5uSmXdPE=s220-c

it's 6 quarts, the same as the one in your picture.

[MADem]

69. That one is electric, I think--but it could be; anything's possible.

I rule nothing out.

I will say, the twisted lid of the Boylston Street bomb looked like the one in the image I provided, not the other one--but who knows?

The Boston Police, the FBI, etc., they know...but not us schmucks...yet, anyway.

[Mojorabbit]

72. It might be an electric pressure cooker

I have one for when I am too ill to watch the stove top one.
http://www.fagoramerica.com/appliances/small_appliances/specialty_cooking/electric_multi_cooker

[MADem]

73. Entirely possible. nt

[Mojorabbit]

65. I thought the same thing. Mine is that size and it is pretty big. nt