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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDzhokhar Tsarnaev is
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an angry young man | |
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a Muslim extremist carrying out the agenda of Al Quaeda | |
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the victim of his domineering older brother | |
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all of the above | |
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protesting the wrongful policies of the US in a criminal manner | |
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pure evil | |
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basically a good kid who got caught up in something really bad | |
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some combination of the above | |
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OTHER | |
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a complete mystery to me | |
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Taverner
(55,476 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)I will be curious to know his attitude and what it will be.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)As the investigation continues, we will know more in the weeks ahead.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Choices are either overly sympathetic or crudely simplistic and reductive.
I vote "murderer."
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)WheelWalker
(8,989 posts)Journeyman
(15,084 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Fuck him. He's not a sympathetic figure. He's not an impressionable kid. He's an adult who, with malice aforethought, left a pressure cooker bomb filled with ball bearings in an unsuspecting crowd of families.
Fuck him.
Sid
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Which is probably a safe assumption, but an assumption nonetheless.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Actually talked about the bombing while they worked out at the same time in the weight room the night of the bombing. He showed nothing. Just said, yeah, he couldn't believe it happened. Small talk.
The other kid was interviewed. I read it yesterday. Either NYT or Boston Globe. He said that was what upset him most was that he showed no emotion about it. Nothing. It creeped him out thinking about it.
And that's when I knew, too.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)And there is a lot in his history that makes him a sympathetic figure. Nobody thought ill of him... nobody who knew him believed he would do this. His brother, they knew was an asshole.
So the fact that he did this truly horrible thing is kind of incomprehensible. Its not easy to make sense of his behavior.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)once it's put all together. But start with my post above. The fact that he can still be sociable and personable after he bombed Boston is chilling.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)and there's the media case. I think a lot of things will be projected onto him, as with the Newtown killer.
But with this guy it will be even more so because he is alive and there will be a defense.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)There's no 'murderer' vibe that people give off--the worst serial killers are often incredibly charming.
Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)Fuck both of them, huh!
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)on. It doesn't matter a hill of beans what drove the brothers Tsarnaev to bomb the marathon. HaNutty, Lush Rimjob, and Glenn BecKKK will all use him as an example to sell intolerance and xenophobia to the rubes who listen to that nonsense.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)try to prevent this stuff in the future.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)is covering somebody's house with tp or sneaking into the liquor cabinet or shoplifting.
Bombs go way past that.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Remember when you were 19? You were invincible - and life was JUST like it was in the movies...
Take that to another level...and you've got the Tsarnev Brothers
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)He's going to be cast as a character in all sorts of yarns. But at the end of the day, we seem to have a 19 year old kid - and yeah, sure, legally an adult - who is not some complex figure standing astride the course of history for any great ideal or cause.
IMHO a "cause" is really secondary to people who do this dumb shit, even if they don't believe that themselves. The "cause" is just an excuse to do something they are inclined to do because they can do it.
It's like the VERY SMALL NUMBER of psychos who enlist in the military in the hope it will give them an excuse to shoot at people. Although typically those sorts of nuts get filtered out.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)I'm sure the facts will come out at trial, or he will take a plea deal and we'll never know.
I've known some young men who have done really stupid criminal things when they were his age, up to and including murder, motivation unknown. Nineteen seems to be a difficult age.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)--very sick. Way beyond "angry."
flamingdem
(39,381 posts)Anyone who selected that needs to get a brain and redo their selection. Thank-you.
dkf
(37,305 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)What he was before doesn't matter to me. I don't care if he was a "good kid." I don't care how many people are shocked he could do such a thing. All this boohoo sympathy for a monster is grotesque.
CountAllVotes
(20,897 posts)It is a heinous sin and it is unforgivable. He is indeed pure EVIL as well as a lying SOB!
We the people will likely never know the truth, never!
Bucky
(54,314 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)guilty. No sympathy at all.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)It's a point system. His age and level of cooperation might not spare him. Trust me, that's why he's talking. He'd give up his mama if his mama were involved.