Thu May 2, 2013, 11:36 AM
ProSense (116,464 posts)
Can someone post a list of the corporate Democrats who need to be primaried in 2014.
Also, please provide the names of potential challengers.
Focusing on Republican obstruction is obfuscation, ignoring that some Democrats are partly to blame. Thanks in advance.
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ProSense | May 2013 | OP |
AnotherMcIntosh | May 2013 | #1 | |
ProSense | May 2013 | #2 | |
AnotherMcIntosh | May 2013 | #3 | |
ProSense | May 2013 | #4 | |
dreamnightwind | May 2013 | #6 | |
AnotherMcIntosh | May 2013 | #9 | |
dreamnightwind | May 2013 | #10 | |
AnotherMcIntosh | May 2013 | #11 | |
dreamnightwind | May 2013 | #21 | |
MineralMan | May 2013 | #13 | |
AnotherMcIntosh | May 2013 | #15 | |
MineralMan | May 2013 | #16 | |
brooklynite | May 2013 | #17 | |
AnotherMcIntosh | May 2013 | #20 | |
ProSense | May 2013 | #5 | |
dreamnightwind | May 2013 | #7 | |
backscatter712 | May 2013 | #8 | |
ProSense | May 2013 | #12 | |
brooklynite | May 2013 | #19 | |
JoePhilly | May 2013 | #14 | |
HappyMe | May 2013 | #18 |
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:48 AM
AnotherMcIntosh (11,064 posts)
1. Here's an idea. Why don't you solicit or post a list of those who should not be primaried.
Here's my list of those who deserve our support and should not be primaried:
Arizona Raúl Grijalva (AZ-3, Tucson) Ed Pastor (AZ-7, Phoenix) California Jared Huffman (CA-2, San Rafael) George Miller (CA-11, Richmond) Barbara Lee (CA-13, Oakland) Michael Honda (CA-17, San Jose) Sam Farr (CA-20, Monterey) Judy Chu (CA-27, El Monte) Henry Waxman (CA-33, Los Angeles) Xavier Becerra (CA-34, Los Angeles) Karen Bass (CA-37, Baldwin Hills) Linda Sánchez (CA-38, Lakewood) Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-40, Los Angeles) Mark Takano (CA-41, Riverside) Maxine Waters (CA-43, Inglewood) Janice Hahn (CA-44, San Pedro) Colorado Jared Polis (CO-2, Boulder, Fort Collins) Connecticut Rosa DeLauro (CT-3, New Haven) Florida Corrine Brown (FL-5, Jacksonville) Alan Grayson (FL-9, Orlando) Lois Frankel (FL-22, West Palm Beach) Georgia John Lewis (GA-5, Atlanta) Illinois Luis Gutiérrez (IL-4, Chicago) Danny Davis (IL-7, Chicago) Jan Schakowsky (IL-9, Chicago) Indiana André Carson (IN-7, Indianapolis) Iowa Dave Loebsack (IA-2, Cedar Rapids) Maine Chellie Pingree (ME-1, North Haven) Maryland Donna Edwards (MD-4, Fort Washington) Elijah Cummings (MD-7, Baltimore) Massachusetts Jim McGovern (MA-2, Worcester) Joseph P. Kennedy III (MA-4, Newton) Ed Markey (MA-5, Malden) John Tierney (MA-6, Salem) Mike Capuano (MA-7, Boston) Michigan John Conyers (MI-13, Detroit) Minnesota Keith Ellison (MN-5, Minneapolis) Rick Nolan (MN-8, Crosby) Mississippi Bennie Thompson (MS-2, Bolton) Missouri William Lacy Clay, Jr. (MO-1, St. Louis) Emanuel Cleaver (MO-5, Kansas City) New Hampshire Ann McLane Kuster (NH-2, Hopkinton) New Jersey Frank Pallone (NJ-6, Long Branch) Rush Holt (NJ-12, Hopewell Township) New Mexico Ben R. Luján (NM-3, Santa Fe) New York Nydia Velázquez (NY-7, Brooklyn) Hakeem Jeffries (NY-8, Brooklyn) Yvette Clarke (NY-9, Brooklyn) Jerrold Nadler (NY-10, Manhattan) Carolyn Maloney (NY-12, Manhattan) Charles Rangel (NY-13, Harlem) José Serrano (NY-15, Bronx) Louise Slaughter (NY-25, Rochester) North Carolina Mel Watt (NC-12, Charlotte) Ohio Marcy Kaptur (OH-9, Toledo) Marcia Fudge (OH-11, Warrensville Heights) Oregon Earl Blumenauer (OR-3, Portland) Suzanne Bonamici (OR-1, Beaverton) Peter DeFazio (OR-4, Eugene) Pennsylvania Chaka Fattah (PA-2, Philadelphia) Matt Cartwright (PA-17, Scranton, Wilkes-Barre, Pottsville) Rhode Island David Cicilline (RI-1, Providence) Tennessee Steve Cohen (TN-9, Memphis) Texas Sheila Jackson Lee (TX-18, Houston) Eddie Bernice Johnson (TX-30, Dallas) Vermont Peter Welch (VT-At Large) Virginia Jim Moran (VA-8, Alexandria) Washington Jim McDermott (WA-7, Seattle) Wisconsin Mark Pocan (WI-2, Madison) Gwen Moore (WI-4, Milwaukee) |
Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #1)
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:54 AM
ProSense (116,464 posts)
2. Are any of those Reps on this list
Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll117.xml No, I think posting the list of those needing to be primaried is better. Pick the top ten. |
Response to ProSense (Reply #2)
Thu May 2, 2013, 11:57 AM
AnotherMcIntosh (11,064 posts)
3. My recommendation: primary all those who are not liberals or progressives.
Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #3)
Thu May 2, 2013, 12:00 PM
ProSense (116,464 posts)
4. So you can't name them?
You posted a list of people who shouldn't be primaried.
Did you check to see if any of them voted for CISPA? |
Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #1)
Thu May 2, 2013, 06:54 PM
dreamnightwind (4,775 posts)
6. Huffman should not be on that list
He is more conservative and corporate than most people in this district. He will be primaried, too. No way will a Republican win this district, so no reason not to go for it. This district should be, for the House, what Vermont is for the Senate with Bernie Sanders. I support Norman Solomon in this district.
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Response to dreamnightwind (Reply #6)
Thu May 2, 2013, 08:51 PM
AnotherMcIntosh (11,064 posts)
9. Unless I'm mistaken, Rep Jared Huffman has not voted a single time with the conservatives.
In contrast, he co-sponsored the Fair Minimum Wage Bill of 2013 (H.R. 1010) to increase the minimum wage so that it would increase from $7.25 per hour to $10.10 per hour over the next two years. The Bill would also automatically adjust the minimum wage to automatically increase to keep pace with inflation.
Sounds alright to me. |
Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #9)
Fri May 3, 2013, 03:37 AM
dreamnightwind (4,775 posts)
10. Let the voters decide
rather than you. That's what the primaries are for.
Huffman doesn't suck, but we can actually do better here, and should. What's the risk? Do you live here? Off the top of my head, Huffman wouldn't sign the Grayson petition about not supporting any entitlement cuts. That isn't real high on my list, though, I can understand reasons not to sign such a thing. There were more substantial issues in the last primary, and there will be again next time. If you live here, you can vote for Huffman, just please don't discourage the primary process. What are your criteria for who does not need to be primaried? If we're not enabling a Republican, I say let the primaries sort it out. |
Response to dreamnightwind (Reply #10)
Fri May 3, 2013, 07:42 AM
AnotherMcIntosh (11,064 posts)
11. Of course the voters are going to decide. Did you really think that an anonymous DU poster would?
If so, that's the rudest and stupidest thing that I've read this morning.
The OP solicited comments. I provided mine. You say, "Let the voters decide rather than you." I never claimed to be deciding whether Huffman nor anyone else would be elected. I do know that he is a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. It is clear that you are trying to suppress votes for this particular progressive Democrat. If you don't like me saying something good about Congressman Huffman, too bad. |
Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #11)
Fri May 3, 2013, 03:31 PM
dreamnightwind (4,775 posts)
21. Wow
It's you who are trying to suppress what will be a very interesting primary. The Dem who gets the most votes will win this district, not much question about that, so suppressing votes for Huffman is a ruse. Good grief.
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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #1)
Fri May 3, 2013, 07:56 AM
MineralMan (136,655 posts)
13. You left out Betty McCollum MN CD-4
What are your criteria for this list, if I may ask?
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #13)
Fri May 3, 2013, 08:12 AM
AnotherMcIntosh (11,064 posts)
15. Is she a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus?
Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #15)
Fri May 3, 2013, 08:14 AM
MineralMan (136,655 posts)
16. I don't know, but her positions are progressive.
Look at her voting record.
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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #1)
Fri May 3, 2013, 08:19 AM
brooklynite (68,669 posts)
17. So, it's okay to be a political hack as long as you reliably vote Democratic?
Yvette Clarke is probably one of the least productive members of Congress (I was in her district until 2010). She has a low attendance rate and develops no legislation on her own. Her district could do far better without any risk of a Republican winning.
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #17)
Fri May 3, 2013, 08:32 AM
AnotherMcIntosh (11,064 posts)
20. Low attendance rate? Develops no legislation on her own?
Maybe she's being groomed to be the next president.
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Response to ProSense (Original post)
Thu May 2, 2013, 12:20 PM
ProSense (116,464 posts)
5. Wait, is the
anti-corporate Democrats meme just talk or are people seeking action?
Here's a list that should help determine who should be primaried. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022787209 |
Response to ProSense (Reply #5)
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:02 PM
dreamnightwind (4,775 posts)
7. Why base it on CISPA?
Reprehensible as it is, there are plenty of other issues to use. An index that looks at a number of issues, and at campaign funding sources, would be a better measure.
And I'm confused. I always took you as being a supporter of the corporate Democrats. Are you sincere here, or just playing a game? If you're sincere, welcome. No good reason to limit House primaries to 10, as you suggested, that looks like game playing to me. |
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:06 PM
backscatter712 (26,304 posts)
8. Top of my list: Mark Pryor. n/t
Response to backscatter712 (Reply #8)
Fri May 3, 2013, 07:54 AM
ProSense (116,464 posts)
12. That would be great!
I'm surprised at how few people are naming names. Pryor is at the top of my list, followed by Hagan, Landrieu and Warner.
Sometimes it appears that all the talk about "corporate Democrats" is really cover to bash Obama, who just won re-election in a landslide. No one ever talks about specific Democrats who need to go in real terms backed up by action. It's all noise. |
Response to ProSense (Reply #12)
Fri May 3, 2013, 08:28 AM
brooklynite (68,669 posts)
19. Landrieu and Hagen just (courageously) voted in favor of the gun bill.
Both supported the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
Both supported ACA Both supported repeal of DADT But, if you can't have 100% progressive values, much better to have a Republican... |
Response to ProSense (Original post)
Fri May 3, 2013, 07:56 AM
JoePhilly (27,787 posts)
14. Given the amount of screaming that goes on here at DU ... you should
receive multiple LONG lists of names.
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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #14)
Fri May 3, 2013, 08:21 AM
HappyMe (20,277 posts)
18. Yeah, this thread should have
at least 70 replies.
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