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Mass

(27,315 posts)
Thu May 2, 2013, 06:51 PM May 2013

New Pollster finds close race between Markey and Gomez.

Emerson College Polling Society finds a close race between Markey and Gomez, with Markey up by 6.

http://emersoncollegepollingsociety.com/ECPS_PR_5.2.pdf

Before people start panicking, a few things.

First, because I had never heard of them and I pretty much know all major MA polling firm, I looked at whom they are. They are brand new. So, we have no idea whether they are any good or not.

Second, the press release does not give any indication of where those people interviewed live. Given the differences between the different parts of MA, le make up of the sample matter. Also, the poll deals with registered voters. During a special election where people do not vote in the first place? Really?

So, while I hope the Markey campaign is serious (and it seems they are), I will wait to hear about well-known posters (Massinc, PPP, Suffolk) before I worry.

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New Pollster finds close race between Markey and Gomez. (Original Post) Mass May 2013 OP
If Markey wins I will congratulate him, if Markey loses, I will say I told you so. graham4anything May 2013 #1
If he loses, I will blame Democrats who spent more time whining than campaigning. Mass May 2013 #4
It reminds me of the Mondale campaign for the Wellstone seat.Markey should be ahead by 25 graham4anything May 2013 #6
He may be 25 points ahead. Given this pollster has no track record, this may be like Lynch poll last Mass May 2013 #7
Yup. I am always wary of pollsters from out of nowhere wanting to strike first graham4anything May 2013 #8
I wouldn't put it past republicans to lie, that party is good at lying these days. nt bluestate10 May 2013 #15
I don't expect Markey to run the type of incompetent campaign that Martha Coakley ran. bluestate10 May 2013 #14
What concerns me is Americans love affair with war, and they will be skewed not on still_one May 2013 #2
We' ll see. We need Democrats to show up and vote. If they do, we' ll win. Mass May 2013 #5
I agree, but when Scott brown won in Mass that really lost still_one May 2013 #9
Scott Brown won because the entire Democratic party was absent at the bar. Mass May 2013 #10
Martha Coakley ran an enormously incompetent campaign. She didn't get out and campaign, bluestate10 May 2013 #16
Interesting. Emerson is in the middle of Boston, elleng May 2013 #3
Women will come out in force for Markey. I predict a Markey win. smirkymonkey May 2013 #11
RAchel Maddow has said Gomez sounds really bad when speaking JI7 May 2013 #12
Markey can't take Gomez for granted. Gomez is a clumsy speaker, but if Markey comes bluestate10 May 2013 #17
i agree, hopefully the Dems learned after Scott Brown won what JI7 May 2013 #19
Is Markey running ads and campaigning where asked to? Dawson Leery May 2013 #20
they might be weighting results for expected off-year turnout 0rganism May 2013 #13
The election is a special election, it isn't an off year election. I was one of the people that bluestate10 May 2013 #18
I read in a local MA paper that Latinos here are torn graywarrior May 2013 #21
Um about this poll. Warren Stupidity May 2013 #22
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
6. It reminds me of the Mondale campaign for the Wellstone seat.Markey should be ahead by 25
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:08 PM
May 2013

He is going to have to be wide awake and not take it for granted, one of those polls showed alot of the state don't even know who he is even after decades.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
7. He may be 25 points ahead. Given this pollster has no track record, this may be like Lynch poll last
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:10 PM
May 2013

week. Or not.

Anyway, we' ll know soon, as PPP is polling tomorrow. And they have a track record, contrarily to Emerson.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
8. Yup. I am always wary of pollsters from out of nowhere wanting to strike first
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:13 PM
May 2013

as we all know now, pollsters are attempting to drive the polls these days and not report it.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
14. I don't expect Markey to run the type of incompetent campaign that Martha Coakley ran.
Thu May 2, 2013, 08:48 PM
May 2013

But having said that, Markey had better take Gomez seriously. Markey got north of 250,000 vote in the primary, Lynch got north of 175,000 votes. The republican vote was north of 150,000. Lynch voters tend to be from the more conservative strain of Massachusetts democrat, many of those people could vote for Gomez if Lynch doesn't come out strong for Markey. Expect turncoats like Ray Flynn to support Gomez outright or give mealy mouthed platitude to bipartisanship, whatever that means.

still_one

(92,150 posts)
2. What concerns me is Americans love affair with war, and they will be skewed not on
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:01 PM
May 2013

qualifications but "navy seal"

Mass

(27,315 posts)
10. Scott Brown won because the entire Democratic party was absent at the bar.
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:16 PM
May 2013

Not only the candidate, but the state party (who misspelled MA in an ad), the DSCC, the DNC, ... Nobody thought we could lose.

Hopefully, we learned our lesson.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
16. Martha Coakley ran an enormously incompetent campaign. She didn't get out and campaign,
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:00 PM
May 2013

she didn't bring in competent advisers early, she let Scott Brown's phone banks absolutely dominate calls to people's homes. A case in point, I was at home on a snowy day and got a call at Noon for a Coakley rally 20 miles away that was to take place at 2pm. That phone call was the first and only notice that I got about the rally. Markey should run the type of campaign the Deval Patrick ran during the 2010 election, Patrick blanketed the state and spoke to any group that invited him. Patrick has a clear message that he constantly drove home, and Patrick had competent field people that got the democratic base fired up.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
3. Interesting. Emerson is in the middle of Boston,
Thu May 2, 2013, 07:03 PM
May 2013

was a pretty liberal college (my mother attended,) and Norman Lear is an alum.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. Women will come out in force for Markey. I predict a Markey win.
Thu May 2, 2013, 08:12 PM
May 2013

I don't trust Gomez. I don't trust any Republicans. I don't think most MA voters are that easily fooled.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
12. RAchel Maddow has said Gomez sounds really bad when speaking
Thu May 2, 2013, 08:19 PM
May 2013

so i'm guessing any closeness in the race would go away after people see a debate.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
17. Markey can't take Gomez for granted. Gomez is a clumsy speaker, but if Markey comes
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:04 PM
May 2013

off as dismissive, that will help Gomez. Markey must re-state what Gomez says with empathy, the proceed to rip Gomez's guts of with sharp analysis that punch holes in Gomez's arguments.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
19. i agree, hopefully the Dems learned after Scott Brown won what
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:08 PM
May 2013

should have been an easy win if only the Dem had campaigned .

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
20. Is Markey running ads and campaigning where asked to?
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:10 PM
May 2013

Coakley did not do so. It was all she had to do to win.

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
13. they might be weighting results for expected off-year turnout
Thu May 2, 2013, 08:24 PM
May 2013

which invariably favors Republicans because Democrats apparently haven't figured out that elections happen every 2 years.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
18. The election is a special election, it isn't an off year election. I was one of the people that
Thu May 2, 2013, 09:07 PM
May 2013

didn't want this election. But now that we have it, I am in the fight to help the democrat win.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
22. Um about this poll.
Thu May 2, 2013, 10:28 PM
May 2013

Emerson College Polling Society is a student organization at Emerson College dedicated to formulating, administering, and analyzing public opinion polls. The results and analysis of this release are the sole views of Emerson College Polling Society and do not reflect the views of Emerson College as a whole.


I'd hold off on the mass (pun intended) suicide until a few somewhat more professional polls have chimed in.
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