How about this for anti-gun/bullet fans to do-(who have a little spending money)-

[graham4anything]

Why don't all anti-gun, anti-NRA anti-bullet people with a bit of money to spend, instead of giving it to a group, why not in each district, go in and buy up all the bullets, which, according to reports, are in limited stock. (only those with NO guns should be involved.)

Obviously not for guns one doesn't have, but to remove it from the market altogether.
A gun is no good without a bullet, and with the government buying some, and Bloomberg buying some, we could limit the entire flow of bullets for a long time.

As for what to do with the bullets, I am sure one could go and have someone eliminate them from the market place and street.

This would surely effect the gun buyers if they couldn't get bullets.

After all, how much is a box of bullets?

[pintobean]

1. Be safe, g4a. Buy blanks.

[loli phabay]

3. lol, i would be okay for about fifty years if i only shot once a month and curtailed

My .40 cal practice sessions. Though if the posters plan came to fruition i could make some seriou cash selling rounds.

[Cali_Democrat]

2. What a bizarre suggestion. n/t

[NightWatcher]

4. wow, this is a colossally stupid idea

Lets waste money buying up a product that will only be replinished in a few days. In the meantime, we'll have boxes of ammo sitting around the house just waiting to get into trouble. Then I'm sure someone will throw them in the garbage where the compactor mechanism from the truck will crush...causing some of the shells to go off and possibly wound a garbage worker or other nearby innocent. What a way to waste money, by giving it to retailers of weapons and the bullet industry.

But hey, it's just another in a very long line of stupid posts.

[graham4anything]

5. not if its organized by the Mayors against guns, and immediately disposed of by police

I would figure it was like in the days of 45 singles.
Each place had a finite number, costing a finite dollar.

All it took to sell out and become the #1 record was enough people in all the places that sell them.

And then the stores would have none.

It would be a great marketing campaign to get rid of guns and bullets.

Of course, police and camera crews would record every moment.

and it would be completely harmless as no one would actually keep the bullets they are buying
they would immediately be destroyed by police and other proper law enforcement.

There are only x number of gun sellers in the USA.

Simple dollars could buy them out.
(While the big guys like Bloomberg buy the manufacturing plants.)

Simple business 101.

Then do like Jerry Brown in California and work your way down.

And, anyone in any town causes any trouble trying to stop it, arrest them, and take their guns/bullets away with no one able to get in or out of the area with any bullets on them.

[loli phabay]

7. wow your last part sounds kinda scarey if thats how you really think

Not sure if you are for real or just playing a part but you scare me way more than the vast majority of gun owners.

[graham4anything]

9. Guns are WMDs, the NRA a terror org, people who finance it are financing terror

as the other post about gunnies wanting to march with loaded rifles to DC (where that is not allowed), these are actual rightwing extremists with paranoid conspiracy theory thoughts,like the coward of OkCity was, like the Waco people were, like all the others.

Time to treat it as such.

after all, they are using guns to overthrow the government it seems. That is treason.

[loli phabay]

12. erm okay please can i go home as you scare me.

[graham4anything]

15. you don't need to reply on this or any anti-gun thread. 1000s of other threads each day

one can always defend/ or rail against, the march on Washington that that terrorist is planning on doing that can be found on a different thread

[loli phabay]

21. you still scare me, you seem to believe that what you believe should be achieved no matter the cost

If anything like ubc is to come then there needs to be compromise and dialogue from both sides.

[graham4anything]

25. Get rid of all bullets, then everyone can keep their guns. How's that for compromise?

after all bullets are not in the 2nd whatsoever. No mention at all.

With no bullets, one doesn't even need to reinterpret the 2nd.

Then collectors can hang them on the wall and look at the now rendered obsolete gun as a curio.

[loli phabay]

28. okay but you and i will be long dead before any rounds i have are unfireable

Plus its not hard to make them you know.

[derby378]

32. Or you could simply move to the UK

Saves you the trouble of a cheesy "reinterpretation" of our nation's laws. Plus, there's the Chunnel so you can visit France.

[X_Digger]

92. He's a caricature. We're having our collective legs pulled.

I'm sure when he eventually outs himself, someone at that other site will stand up and laugh loudly about how they fooled so many for so long.

[LAGC]

103. Yup.

And quite a few are going to have egg on their face for getting suckered in by him, time and time again...

[NightWatcher]

11. "if anyone causes trouble, arrest them and take their guns?" Um, you couldnt do that

Nor would most gun stores allow anyone to bring a camera crew with them as they attempted to buy anything.

But you go right ahead and waste a few hundred million dollars by giving it to the bullet makers who will use that money to increase production and put more stock right back on the shelves.

You, nor anyone, could attempt to Buy Out all the guns and ammo to keep them off the street.

You go ahead and try that and I'll be laughing my ass off when you make the evening news.

[graham4anything]

18. One can buy all the LEGAL ones. (Only criminals would have illegal, correct???

[Union Scribe]

76. Go for it. And yes, please do have a camera rolling

when you enact this master plan. And be sure to upload it so we can all see.

[pipoman]

106. LOL..suspending the constitution again I see..

The last time other idiots tried to buy up everything didn't end so well..LOL

The Hunt Brothers and their Attempt to Corner the Silver Market

http://www.traderslog.com/hunt-brothers-silver/

[DrDan]

6. feed the corporations who feed on killing . . . hmmmmmm . . . I think not

[EOTE]

8. Is this like... performance art or something?

This can not possibly be a serious suggestion.

[loli phabay]

10. i think its almost like one of those psych test things someone is doing for college

And they just collate our answers to see how we react to craziness. I cant figure the poster out any other way.

[derby378]

14. Well, he's now saying that guns are WMDs...

I think he needs a mug of hot chocolate and a puppy.

[Cali_Democrat]

19. I'm leaning more toward a right winger posing as a progressive.

Trying to make DU look crazy.

[loli phabay]

26. honestly i dont think it makes du as a whole look crazy as enough people actually discuss this stuf

But some of his ideas definetly wear the crazy shoes.

[X_Digger]

93. +1

Extreme caricature, on multiple subjects, not just guns.

[EOTE]

31. Whatever he/she is, I hope it's exposed with the quickness.

This kind of tom-foolery really can tarnish a site's image.

[loli phabay]

37. me and you disagreed on something earlier but i took what you said without thinking your nuts

This poster i have no idea if there is something not right or as you say its a setup.

[EOTE]

39. It's one of the two.

And while we disagree, I know you're not a troll. This one I'm not nearly as certain of that.

[loli phabay]

44. it might be a clever ploy to get both sides to agree when presented by the wacky side

That scares both of us, it may just be genius at work.

[graham4anything]

13. It's the same as when Springsteen tickets go on sale. X number of tickets, all sold out in minutes

same concept

guns/bullets are just widgets like concert tickets
x number manufactured
x number possible to manufacture in a year
x number available for sale

get rid of them, there are no more.

simple biz second grade level like bubble gum.

[loli phabay]

16. you do realize that people reload their own and others like myself have shitloads

Enough to last for years if needed, plus as others have said business would just fill the vacuum. You would be buying ammo every day for the rest of your life.

[graham4anything]

22. Why need them at all?Certainly one doesn't need all of those for home invasion protection

Why not collect stamps or soda bottle caps?

[EOTE]

27. Why not attempt to add something even somewhat worthwhile to the conversation?

Instead of incredibly asinine suggestions that are either utterly impossible or entirely counter productive?

[loli phabay]

34. well some people shoot a lot especially competative shooters, i shoot weekly sometimes more

And i burn a lot of ammo practicing.

[graham4anything]

52. you don't need real bullets for that. You can use blanks.

[loli phabay]

54. erm you realise that blanks dont feel the same as rounds nor do they show you placement

[Duckhunter935]

55. This can not be real

[Union Scribe]

77. I know, right?

It's brilliant if it's fake

[loli phabay]

81. as i said its genius on a level with bing hitler.

[pipi_k]

68. We tried that at my house...

Shooting at cans across the yard...no bullets.

Having someone bang a spoon on a tuna fish can to simulate a hit was a bit weird.

But the guy who had to run out to the cans in the yard and hammer holes in the cans with a big nail (fake bullet holes) complained, and the "shooters" really got pissed when the guy making the holes in the cans refused to nail them dead center.

All in all, it was an ugly day.

[premium]

107. Why is what someone collects any of your business?

This has got to be, by far, the most bizarre, inane suggestion.
You can't be for real, c'mon, admit it, you're just funning us, right?

[pintobean]

23. simple biz second grade level

You stepped in the bubble gum. Springsteen can switch to a larger venue and/or add shows.

[EOTE]

24. It's exactly the same! Only your suggestion is far more likely to bring about the end of civilizati

Do you understand anything about supply and demand? Do you know that this would simply enrich ammunition manufacturers and create much more of them? Are you truly this insanely uninformed or is this some kind of joke?

[graham4anything]

29. No. There is a finite number. All it takes is the $$$ needed to get rid of the bullets.

Then keep your guns.

Someone like Bloomberg could do this with just petty cash and get Warren Buffet and others to join in.

(and add some signing statements too)

You see, the pen is mightier than the sword, another cliche that is true.

[EOTE]

36. Yes, there's a finite number, and that number is several orders of magnitudes more than trillions.

And I'm quite sure your brain is not capable of comprehending that number. So what you want to do is provide ammo companies with several trillions of dollars and create magnitudes of order MORE ammo companies. That is well beyond stupid, I really can't describe the insanity of your suggestion. And just so you know, no one is buying your little game, whatever that game for you is.

[graham4anything]

46. well, it would be done the day after the manufacturing plants are all bought.

Just takes a little $$$ to buy the owners out. After all, they are in it for the money and would probably be happy to sell as the gun industry soon will be gone anyhow.
Again, simple biz 101. A biz takeover like Walmart took over all the mom and pops.

Like 8 tracks and Betamax, rendered obsolete

[EOTE]

56. Great. Then we'd just have to pay ridiculous sums of money to keep the ammo manufacturers for life.

Then of course we'd need to make ammo illegal because if not other plants would just pop up in their place. Of course you'd know that if you had more than a single functioning brain cell. Not saying you don't, I assume you know such things, I'm just wondering why you'd continue to press on this insane issue if you do.

[graham4anything]

59. Why so scared if the idea is silly? anyhow, back later, gotta go.

[EOTE]

60. Listen, I'm not scared of you. I'm ridiculing you. Do you understand the difference?

The only thing that scares me in that deranged mind of yours is how the idiocy you spew contributes negatively to this site. Do you understand that? Of course not.

[Travis_0004]

65. First off, bullets are already tough to come by.

Also, when tickets for springsteen go on sale, once they are gone, they really are gone. Bullets will be back in stock as soon as the next truck arrives.

Plus, what are you going to do with the bullets you buy?

[pipi_k]

73. Hmmm...I wonder if

concert tickets are finite because concert venues can only contain X number of people.

Why would ticket sellers sell a million tickets to a Springsteen concert when the venue can only hold 25,000 people?


That issue is not even comparable to the gun/bullets issue.

[Capt. Obvious]

17. Performance art

exactly right. Not just this thread though.

[Capt. Obvious]

20. Are we buying 80 or 20 bullets?

[graham4anything]

33. This would be a full 100. All. Buy em then shut them down. Simple. Occupy the bullets.

[Drummerboy2277]

62. Your proposal while very thought provoking..

Is not based in the reality we live in... Unfortunately if we all did as you say ( not a bad idea in itself) we would ll be broke... Let me explain why.... Even if what the gun nuts are saying is true about homeland security buying over a billion rounds at a time..... Have you noticed what the price of the death projectiles is... I just looked online to see what these wmds cost.. For a box of 9 mm they are almost 25.00 and some are more.. Nw that's a lot of money... But even if we all could afford say a box or two a day and did indeed OCCUPY the ammo how long could we financially sustain it.... It would make the sale of ammo so profitable that you would see another hundred manufactures pop up in a year or two time to get our money..... But if if if we even were able to keep up and keep it off the shelves so the nuts can't get it..... What about what these nuts have stockpiled already.... I know I have heard of people stockpiling millions of rounds... So while I give you an A for effort, your plan is totally unreachable..

[graham4anything]

82. are you saying those people are not hard working honest people,

but have sinister ulterior motives?

ah, now you see the point.

an honest person will not under any circumstance turn into a criminal over a hobby.

however, a rightwing extremist looking to overthrow the government is nothing more than a terrorist in a sleeper cell then. Laying dormant til the plan is hatched, so that they appear to be honest hard working person.

then, if this is true, I was 100% correct all along.

[NightWatcher]

30. Why not buy all the liquor in the store, then there will be no more DUI's or drunk drivers?

I want some of what you've been smoking

[graham4anything]

35. ah, the classic NRA switch to a different subject. What page in the soundbyte book is that on?

[EOTE]

38. Says the one attempting to discredit common sense gun legislation by proposing insane and counter

productive solutions.

[graham4anything]

50. If it's so insane, why bother commenting against it? No, this idea scares the NRA in its simplicity.

the whole gun industry (legal that is) is a sleight of hand.

And remember, legal is the key word.
What would all those LEGAL gun holders do? After all, they are NOT criminals, they are LEGAL
and why would someone not a criminal become one?
They would not fight it.

(and any that would resort to illegal tactics, well, I am sure everyone here is for arresting those that commit illegal crimes, no???

[EOTE]

53. Because you are attempting to discredit an entire site with your looniness.

It's one insane suggestion after another ad nauseum. Everyone here can see through your ploy yet you continue unashamed. Is this really how you get your rocks off?

[graham4anything]

57. yada yada. Be seeing you later, gotta run some errands and buy a lottery ticket.

[EOTE]

58. Don't forget your brain salve. You'll be needing extra. nt

[DrDan]

69. is one of your errands to buy bullets? or is this stupid idea just for the rest of us?

[NoGOPZone]

97. Are you going to buy all the lottery tickets?

I hear that worked for Voltaire.

[kudzu22]

111. Maybe you should buy ALL the lottery tickets

No more dashed hopes and state-sponsored gambling.

[NightWatcher]

40. what color is the sky on your planet?

Your idea is utterly ridiculous and unattainable. More than 15 billion rounds are produced a year. Do you have a few billion dollars to spend every few months to keep "buying them out"?

Then what about the waste of a few billion rounds of ammo, the lead, the heavy metals....?

You are suffering from a delusion if you think you can simply buy all the ammo on the shelves, it cant happen.

[Cali_Democrat]

41. Let's by up all the weapons of war from defense contractors including supplies for maintenance

No more wars.

[Cali_Democrat]

42. Let's buy all the cocaine in the world

No more drug overdoses from people doing blow. No more people going to jail for their coke habit.

[Union Scribe]

79. Oh I thought you meant...

so that we could understand the OP

[Cali_Democrat]

43. Let's buy up all the cars in the world

No more car accidents.

[Cali_Democrat]

45. Let's buy up all the beaches and pools in the worldl

and bar everyone from using them.

No more drowning.

[NightWatcher]

48. Let's buy up all the Xanax in the world

And offer a few of them to......

[Cali_Democrat]

64. Still may not be enough. n/t

[Cali_Democrat]

47. Let's buy up all the cigarettes in the world

Reduce lung cancer deaths tremendously.

[Cali_Democrat]

49. Let's buy up all all the fast food garbage in the world

No more obesity.

[Cali_Democrat]

51. Let's buy up all the knives in the world

No more stabbing deaths.

[graham4anything]

61. Never say something can't be done. Anything can be done by putting ones heads together.

In the Flu of 1919, they didn't have penicillin. They thought it would be hopeless.

[loli phabay]

63. wth. nothing else

[CokeMachine]

114. I thought the Flu was a virus.

When did Penicillin start working for viruses?? You're a hoot!!!!

[pipi_k]

115. OMG

The planet could have been covered three feet deep in penicillin, but it wouldn't have made a bit of difference.

Because flu is, you know, a VIRUS.

oy...

[PD Turk]

66. good luck with that

the last box of .44 mag I bought ran about $35, and .357 about $30 for a box of 50. 30-30 rifle ammo was running about a buck a round. not sure about other calibers as I haven't bought any lately but you'd have to get a bunch of very rich people together to even try to pull it off.

[NickB79]

67. The gun industry would put your name on a plaque in gratitude

Right now, the demand for guns and ammo is so great that virtually all gun and ammo makers are expanding their production facilities and hiring new workers (you do realize that ammo isn't a finite resource, right? That companies can build new gun and ammo factories?). If you get a substantial number of people to buy and store ammo to keep it from the gun nuts, guess who gets all that money?

The gun and ammo industry.

They'll use your money to expand their facilities to crank out even MORE ammo, because the demand will be even higher than it already is.

Even worse, they'll use some of your money to LOBBY CONGRESS TO OPPOSE NEW GUN LAWS!

[pipi_k]

74. I know my

step son-in-law would give a big high five to that...

He works at Smith and Wesson.

They often have slow times.

But if people start buying up all the ammo, things would really pick up. He'd have his mortgage paid off in no time, and my stepdaughter could stay home to care for their toddler.

As far as the plaque goes, yep, I can imagine it...

[loli phabay]

83. plaque nothing it would be a statue visible from mars

[geckosfeet]

71. Good lord. Put your money right in the pockets of ammo manufacturers. So they can build up capacity

[galileoreloaded]

72. your pills!

you forgot them again today.

[Crepuscular]

75. Sounds like a great plan!

Once you have accumulated a bunch, I'll send you my shipping address, I promise to dispose of it properly, no charge, I'll be happy to help keep it out of the hands of those who shouldn't have it. Really, I'm glad to help out!

[Deep13]

78. Increasing demand fuels the industry.

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I think I read that in a high school economics book. Oh yeah, here it is on page one.

Better idea. Those same folks could buy guns from those who wish to give up the hobby, but can't afford to just destroy them. After those folks get the guns, they can destroy them. No increased industry demand because the previous owners don't want them anymore.

[billh58]

80. My hat's off to you

for pointing out the gullibility of this crowd, and spoofing the fear tactics used by the NRA. Well done!

[kudzu22]

84. Makes as much sense as keeping people skinny

by buying all the Big Macs in the world. If you buy all the big macs, there's none left for the fat people, right? I mean, they can't make more.

Seriously this has to be the most deranged idea I've ever heard. But, I welcome you to give it a try. Unless your name is Bill Gates or you're the Sultan of Brunei, I doubt you have enough cash to make even a ripple in the supply chain.

P.S. I'll sell you all of my bullets for $1 million.

[graham4anything]

86. You seem to forget the Great Equalizer, Mike Bloomberg would coordinate it.

[kudzu22]

87. I guarantee we can make enough bullets to bankrupt Bloomie

and any other nanny 1%er busybodies out there.

[NCTraveler]

96. Bloomy would just invest in ammunition manufacturers.

Make millions off it.

[Drummerboy2277]

98. Not to rain on your man love for ole mike

But honestly Bloomburg is a turd. He thinks he's a god among men... Just like how he likes to play god in Ny..... He reminds me of Mussolini in a way..And alot of people aren't to happy with Mikey getting involved in their personal lives.....

[petronius]

85. Excellent work deflecting attention from that thread* about donating to gun control

organizations! Because really, what you've come up with here is a far better and more powerful idea...

(* http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022793005 )

[graham4anything]

89. Bloomberg doesn't need money, he needs American's backing him in all states

to outfinance the NRA
nickles and dimes aren't the answer, millions are the answer and he already is willing to spend it.
What is needed is anti-gun armies to peacefully(no guns) back it

Why not work with the team that already is leading the way
Bloomberg-Vice President Biden and Gabbie Giffords and the 80 plus mayors against guns

getting rid of all the bullets makes the gun useless, btw, I have said this months ago, this is not new.

[NutmegYankee]

100. That racist piece of shit Bloomberg needs nothing.

No Democrat should ever back a man who supports, neigh ENCOURAGES, stop and frisk.

[pipoman]

109. Strange bedfellows when it comes to franic anti-gun types..

[pipoman]

108. You do realize

that the NRA spends a whopping $5M per year on lobbying and campaign contributions, while your equally delusional hero bloominidiot spends over $10m annually to no avail, no?

[Recovered Repug]

88. The ammo manufacturers would love your idea.

I'm kind of fuzzy on the "have someone eliminate them" step. Can you be more specific?

[Progressive dog]

90. What do we do with them, most contain lead

and all are explosive. I'd bet the arms manufacturers would just add shifts or overtime. They'd benefit from higher prices and higher sales.

[cherokeeprogressive]

91. Great Idea!

Do this and I swear I will recruit investors and we will get financial backing to start a bullet making plant.

We will sell Meek Mike bullets for $20 apiece for as long as he can afford them. Hell, we won't even package them. We'll ship them to him in large bags.

That's what will happen at the front door... at the back door we'll sell them to individuals at cost. If your idiot friend is buying them from us at an exorbitant price, we'll be able to afford to sell them to individuals cheap.

I fucking love it. Have you talked to Mikey about it yet?

[loli phabay]

104. i will even stake you startup money as its a no lose proposition.

[NCTraveler]

94. Lets give the people giving the NRA more money....

and more funds to ramp up production. This is the NRAs dream.

[ileus]

95. ammo 4-139 bucks

At your local walturd.

You can find 50 round boxes of 22lr for 4 bucks

139-159 will get you 420 rounds of 5.56.

And everywhere in between will net you all common calibers of shotgun, rifle, and pistol ammo.

Be aware you can almost double your money if you resale 9mm,380,40,45,22, and 223.

[Apophis]

99. This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read here.

[darkangel218]

101. Im giving you a rec because this thread is too funny :)

[Recursion]

102. I volunteer to do this with drugs. At least the fun ones (nt)

[pipoman]

105. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

FFS..I thought I had heard everything...

Just checked..yep, this is the absolute stupidest post meant to be serious ever in the history of DU...congratulations Grahamcrackers..

[ileus]

110. If you're going to buy the ammo, may as well buy a firearm or two and enjoy

the whole shooting experience, someday it could save your life.

I recommend a combo shotgun, normally a pump that comes with two barrels. One for hunting / sporting purposes (skeet, clays) and one for home defense.

You can buy 100 round boxes of 7 1/2 or 8's for little more than 20 bucks and a box of clays and have a blast shooting with the family. (don't forget the thrower) Then you can switch to the shorter barrel for home defense.



If you decided to pickup an AR and pistol you could not only defend yourself and home but you could enjoy "3 gun" matches that really improve your shooting and you'll also have a blast competing against other shooters.

If you're going to buy the ammo may as well enjoy the fruits of your labor.

[bike man]

112. Is it within the realm of possibility that the ammo makers will make more

after YOU go buy all the current stock?

I emphasize YOU, because many of us are not so foolish as to think the current supply is all there ever will be.

[michreject]

113. I work at at gun shop and shooting range

All are selling current stock for in house, range use only.

When people buy a gun, they need ammo to try it out.

[premium]

116. You've got to be working for the firearms manufacturer's

because you are the best salesman of the century.
What percentage of sales do you get?