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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Fri May 3, 2013, 05:12 PM May 2013

Rat Meat Sold as Lamb in Latest China Food Scandal......now updated:

Last edited Fri May 3, 2013, 11:03 PM - Edit history (1)

Chinese police have broken up a criminal ring accused of taking meat from rats and foxes and selling it as lamb in the country's latest food safety scandal.

The Ministry of Public Security released results of a three-month crackdown on food safety violators, saying in a statement that authorities investigated more than 380 cases and arrested 904 suspects.

Among those arrested were 63 people who allegedly ran an operation in Shanghai and the coastal city of Wuxi that bought fox, mink, rat and other meat that had not been tested for quality and safety, processed it with additives like gelatin and passed it off as lamb.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100705606?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Note: the article says the meat was sold only in local farmer markets.
Let's hope so.

UPDATE:
China arrests 900 in fake meat scandal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014473101

( can you imagine arresting 900 people ????)


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Rat Meat Sold as Lamb in Latest China Food Scandal......now updated: (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl May 2013 OP
shocked no one noticed, the meat tastes different and has different texture loli phabay May 2013 #1
I'm sure it does, but how do you know this? Hekate May 2013 #34
growing up our parents called rats track rabbit so we wouldnt be freaked out loli phabay May 2013 #35
The 10 pound rodents in the Amazon are really tasty, a favorite meat. Coyotl May 2013 #39
when in belize the guides who went with us into the ulu would bring lots of wierd stuff loli phabay May 2013 #40
Mini teacup lamb. Very rare! nt Xipe Totec May 2013 #2
omg. for the win loli phabay May 2013 #4
I hope that is real Panda in Panda Express itsrobert May 2013 #3
we had lamb chops last night and if those were from a rat, I dont wanna meet that mutha NightWatcher May 2013 #5
This is one of those days that I'm happy I'm a vegetarian Happyhippychick May 2013 #6
I am 80% vegetarian, I find. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #7
for me it depends on the season and what i have put up and whether we have been fishing loli phabay May 2013 #9
A few more stories like this and I'm going to have to make the switch! reformist2 May 2013 #14
Vegetarian also. Reading stories like this makes me happy to be vegetarian. n/t RebelOne May 2013 #21
I would have been a little suspicious when they advertised it as "Mickey Lamb" BlueJazz May 2013 #8
Ummmm... Ratatouille... Buns_of_Fire May 2013 #10
"King Rat"...great movie. russspeakeasy May 2013 #11
Great book, too--disturbing, but a fine read. nt MADem May 2013 #36
+1 russspeakeasy May 2013 #38
China doesn't have a monopoly on this kind of fraud. Lasher May 2013 #12
Food fraud goes back to before turn of the century in recent history. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #13
I agree, Dixie. Lasher May 2013 #28
talapia tastes like nothing BainsBane May 2013 #30
Rack of Rat - the newest delicacy n/t Blaukraut May 2013 #15
how the hell big were those rats?? boston bean May 2013 #16
The only real issue is the mislabeling. MineralMan May 2013 #17
Been a while since I did mammalian systematics, aren't rabbits still in Lagomorpha? HereSince1628 May 2013 #18
Could be. Does it matter? MineralMan May 2013 #19
It would mean that bunnies aren't rodents. HereSince1628 May 2013 #20
OK. I checked and you are correct. MineralMan May 2013 #22
Never ate a rat, but I have eaten squirrel...fox squirrel actually...in stew. HereSince1628 May 2013 #23
Rabbit is a favorite of mine. MineralMan May 2013 #25
Used to love rabbit. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #29
i have hundreds of the buggers in the hollow below my pasture, nothing like free range. loli phabay May 2013 #41
the Chinese don't eat rats though BainsBane May 2013 #31
if it were like stew meat, if it were ground up dembotoz May 2013 #24
Where? If in the US, it was amixture of lamb MineralMan May 2013 #26
Beef or lamb, if long slices...most frequently lamb in Middle East/SW Asia, occasionally beef MADem May 2013 #37
My grandfather ate a lot of rats. FarPoint May 2013 #27
the global neoliberal economy is so innovative! HiPointDem May 2013 #32
Telling your rat from your mutton: jsr May 2013 #33
boiling lamb is so wrong, rat you should boil then roast then feed to your dog. loli phabay May 2013 #42
I am physically ill. smirkymonkey May 2013 #43
 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
1. shocked no one noticed, the meat tastes different and has different texture
Fri May 3, 2013, 05:14 PM
May 2013

Its like confusing lamb with rabbit.

Hekate

(90,683 posts)
34. I'm sure it does, but how do you know this?
Sat May 4, 2013, 01:08 AM
May 2013

Inquiring minds want to know about your culinary adventure.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
35. growing up our parents called rats track rabbit so we wouldnt be freaked out
Sat May 4, 2013, 04:43 AM
May 2013

Very seldom did we get it but sometimes especially in winter times were lean.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
39. The 10 pound rodents in the Amazon are really tasty, a favorite meat.
Sat May 4, 2013, 10:22 AM
May 2013

We hunted them on moonless nights by floating down river in a canoe and listening for their water-lapping drinking sounds along the banks. Once you hear them you silently approach, a not-so-easy trick requiring a very capable paddler. Once near, you turn on a bright flashlight held under the front hold of a rifle and blind them. The rest is easy and they provide quite the big meal. They're really good with fried bananas for breakfast.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
40. when in belize the guides who went with us into the ulu would bring lots of wierd stuff
Sat May 4, 2013, 05:48 PM
May 2013

I do remember a biggish animal that looked like a beaver but bigger and tasted well okay, really enjoyed my twelve months there even with taking a whole day to go five miles and the creepy crawlies. Best jungle though is Borneo, its like being back in the primordial swamp.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
3. I hope that is real Panda in Panda Express
Fri May 3, 2013, 05:16 PM
May 2013

You never know nowadays. It all taste the same with sweet n sour sauce.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
5. we had lamb chops last night and if those were from a rat, I dont wanna meet that mutha
Fri May 3, 2013, 05:19 PM
May 2013

that rat would be freakin huge.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
7. I am 80% vegetarian, I find.
Fri May 3, 2013, 05:27 PM
May 2013

I should say 80% non-meat.... grains and vegies and fruits and dairy make up most of what we eat.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
9. for me it depends on the season and what i have put up and whether we have been fishing
Fri May 3, 2013, 05:30 PM
May 2013

Or hunting or mushroom etc foraging. Fav time is raspberry season though as i just eat bushels of them. Yummy

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
10. Ummmm... Ratatouille...
Fri May 3, 2013, 05:36 PM
May 2013

But don't follow the Chinese recipe. It suffers a bit in the translation from French.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
12. China doesn't have a monopoly on this kind of fraud.
Fri May 3, 2013, 05:49 PM
May 2013
Think that's snapper? Rampant seafood mislabeling in U.S., study says

February 21, 2013

The most commonly mislabeled fish were snapper and tuna.

Of the samples labeled as snapper, 87% were mislabeled. More than 30 different species of fish were found to be substituted for snapper, but the most common were rockfish and tilapia.

Oceana said the most egregious substitution for red snapper was tilefish, one of four fish the federal government warns has high mercury levels.

Tuna was mislabeled 59% of the time and most commonly swapped with escolar, a type of mackerel that contains gempylotoxin, a toxin that can cause gastrointestinal problems.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/21/business/la-fi-mo-seafood-mislabeling-united-states-20130221

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
13. Food fraud goes back to before turn of the century in recent history.
Fri May 3, 2013, 06:48 PM
May 2013

There were consumers back then trying to get laws passed to have bread made of 100% flour instead of chalk, various forms of white powder,etc.
Same with milk and meat and other foods.
Which is truly amazing, to see how far we have not come.

Lasher

(27,597 posts)
28. I agree, Dixie.
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:09 PM
May 2013

I am often astonished to see the perpetual pontification of libertarian-Republicans, who pretend any government oversight is inappropriate in every respect.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
17. The only real issue is the mislabeling.
Fri May 3, 2013, 07:57 PM
May 2013

I have eaten rodents. They are fine, Rabbit, squirrel, guinea pig. It was not lamb, but good to eat. I do not see an issue, except the mislabeling.

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
22. OK. I checked and you are correct.
Fri May 3, 2013, 08:18 PM
May 2013

My post stands. Lambs are neither rodents nor lagomorphs, so it is still mislabeling that is the problem, as I said.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
23. Never ate a rat, but I have eaten squirrel...fox squirrel actually...in stew.
Fri May 3, 2013, 08:25 PM
May 2013

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Not much there, if you know what I mean. One domestic rabbit can be a real meal.



MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
25. Rabbit is a favorite of mine.
Fri May 3, 2013, 08:30 PM
May 2013

Hard to get these days, though. I used to buy mine from 4H kids. Now iI live in the big city, and I have real problems finding it. Bummer...

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
29. Used to love rabbit.
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:09 PM
May 2013

Mr. Dixie would not put up with us raising them for the skillet, tho.
But when I was growing up, they were an occasional meal, I had no problems eating them.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
31. the Chinese don't eat rats though
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:16 PM
May 2013

so my sister-in-law insists. They eat squirrels, but then so do Arkansans. Ever see the Idiot Abroad episode for China?

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
24. if it were like stew meat, if it were ground up
Fri May 3, 2013, 08:26 PM
May 2013

I remember getting gyros from a street vendor
cut the meat of a big skewer like thing-what was that?

MineralMan

(146,308 posts)
26. Where? If in the US, it was amixture of lamb
Fri May 3, 2013, 08:32 PM
May 2013

and beef. In the rest of the world, all lamb or mutton, probably.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
37. Beef or lamb, if long slices...most frequently lamb in Middle East/SW Asia, occasionally beef
Sat May 4, 2013, 08:00 AM
May 2013

elsewhere.

FarPoint

(12,368 posts)
27. My grandfather ate a lot of rats.
Fri May 3, 2013, 09:06 PM
May 2013

He was a WW II POW in Germany. He often joked about there not being any rats left in Germany as he ate them all.

jsr

(7,712 posts)
33. Telling your rat from your mutton:
Fri May 3, 2013, 11:10 PM
May 2013
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/03/china-fake-meat-rat-mutton


Real mutton, left, and fake mutton in a picture taken from Chinese public safety blog


The thawed meat on the left separates more easily, suggesting it is not mutton


Real and fake mutton after boiling
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