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Do we have to have the shock, "how could they?" dance if Sanford is returned (Original Post) CK_John May 2013 OP
Yeah, they pretty much march in lock step in SC Warpy May 2013 #1
Home of Fort Sumter and still proud of what they started. CK_John May 2013 #2
Sounds like my state, Texas LeftInTX May 2013 #5
Hispanics are overtaking the white establishment at least in numbers Warpy May 2013 #6
I've seen areas with Hispanic population of 45-50% vote Republican LeftInTX May 2013 #7
I see it as a form of Stockholm syndrome Warpy May 2013 #8
LOL LeftInTX May 2013 #9
On what do you base your 80/20 chance claim? Latest polls have it pretty much a dead heat. Electric Monk May 2013 #3
It's SC and her brother is probably French. CK_John May 2013 #4

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
1. Yeah, they pretty much march in lock step in SC
Mon May 6, 2013, 12:45 AM
May 2013

It's one of the most utterly backward states in the union in so many ways.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
6. Hispanics are overtaking the white establishment at least in numbers
Mon May 6, 2013, 01:53 AM
May 2013

and they're sick to death of eating Republican shit while being cheated on wages and government service.

Texas is changing. SC hasn't had all that much to attract transplanted Yankees, so it's remaining a political and cultural backwater, clinging to an imagined past with both hands.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
7. I've seen areas with Hispanic population of 45-50% vote Republican
Mon May 6, 2013, 02:07 AM
May 2013

Bonilla (R), Canseco (R) - my old district. 23rd (Some Hispanic areas tend to have low turn out. Some are conservative too)

When I was canvasing for Pete Gallego (D) in a 80% Hispanic area of San Antonio, lot of them said they were voting for Canseco. One barely spoke English.

Fortunately, Gallego won this round.

Both Bonilla and Canseco are Mexican-Americans. They are defense hawks.

Also, the border areas tend to have very poor turn out.

Fortunately, it was border turn out that gave Gallego his win. (Not the San Antonio area. Election night, Canseco was winning until they started tallying votes from cities along the border)

Canseco challenged it because it was the border and surmised that "illegals were voting". He eventually withdrew his challenge.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
8. I see it as a form of Stockholm syndrome
Mon May 6, 2013, 05:19 AM
May 2013

with new immigrants wanting to become as American as possible as quickly as possible. The GOP has wrapped itself in the flag for years and a lot of new immigrant populations have fallen for it...short term.

Muslims used to be overwhelmingly Republican. They woke up in record time.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
9. LOL
Mon May 6, 2013, 10:17 AM
May 2013

Throw in Fox News, Monica Lewinsky, abortion pics in the mail, Obama's soft on terror, Obamacare is going to bankrupt us, Obamacare is going to close doctors offices, etc. etc.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
3. On what do you base your 80/20 chance claim? Latest polls have it pretty much a dead heat.
Mon May 6, 2013, 01:01 AM
May 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/05/sanford-colbert-busch-poll_n_3220758.html

A Public Policy Polling survey released Sunday evening shows the two candidates locked in a virtual dead heat, with Sanford leading Colbert Busch 47 percent to 46 percent. The numbers show a dramatic shift in the race from two weeks ago, when Colbert Busch held a 9-point lead over Sanford in the PPP poll. That poll was conducted after the Republican was accused of trespassing at his ex-wife's home and was subsequently dropped by the National Republican Campaign Committee.

Despite those setbacks, Sunday's poll indicates that Sanford's efforts to brand Colbert Busch as a liberal may be helping drive down the Democrat's favorability with voters in the heavily Republican 1st Congressional District. During a debate last week, Sanford repeatedly attempted to connect his rival to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and criticized her for accepting campaign donations from labor groups. And in a high profile moment last month, Sanford held a mock debate with a cardboard cutout of Pelosi on a sidewalk to jab Colbert Busch on avoiding public appearances.

Although his "debate" with Pelosi was widely mocked, Sanford's strategy may be paying off. The new PPP poll shows Colbert Busch's favorability dropping a net 19 points since the April poll. Sanford himself remains fairly unpopular with voters, with 54 percent of respondents saying they have an unfavorable opinion of the scandal-plagued former governor.
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