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Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
Tue May 7, 2013, 02:52 PM May 2013

How did the NRA become so powerful? Gore's 2000 defeat in Tennessee.

You see, the NRA has owned the Republican Party for a long time. That would make them a powerful player, but it was always balanced somewhat by a strong pro gun control faction in the Democratic Party.

Then the 2000 selection occurred. And not only was Wayne Lapierre's brag that they would then "operate right out of the Oval Office" made true, but many in the Democratic Party leadership came to blame Gore's loss of his home state on his support of modest gun control. The NRA saw this and knew they could neutralize their opposition if rank-and-file Democrats came to see gun control as a BIG liability.

And so, in every forum they could, died in the wool Republican gunners put on their best "I'm a Democratic and I support the Right to Keep and Bare Arms" suits and began their lobby. Sadly, it worked and we're all paying the price.

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rrneck

(17,671 posts)
1. As a former resident of Tennessee
Tue May 7, 2013, 02:55 PM
May 2013

Gore's position on guns cost him a lot of votes. It probably cost him the state in 2000.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
10. Absolutely,
Tue May 7, 2013, 03:26 PM
May 2013

Any legislation that could be named "The Act That Might Make Spree Killers Slightly Less Efficient" is always a winner when the 1% has turned economic rape into a perpetual motion machine.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
4. First hit on a Google search
Tue May 7, 2013, 03:07 PM
May 2013
Gore's Gun Problem

The Veep casts himself as the hero of gun control, but didn't he use to be the NRA's good friend?

When it comes to iconic campaign images, it is hard to beat the moment, a month after the tragedy at Columbine High, when Al Gore strode into the Republican Senate, commandeered the ivory gavel and broke a tie to require background checks on people who buy weapons at gun shows. It was, he declared, "a turning point for our country." You could almost see the ad in the can. But in that same chamber 14 years before, Gore cast some other pivotal votes--ones that made him a hero to the gun lobby and that could come back to haunt him. "We could have made Al Gore NRA Man of the Year--every single vote," says National Rifle Association honcho Wayne LaPierre. "It's the most spectacular conversion I've ever seen. It's worthy of being investigated by the church."

In an interview last weekend, the Vice President said his early views of the issue reflected the perspective of a Congressman from a rural part of the South where "guns did not really present a threat to public safety but rather were predominantly a source of recreation." As a young representative of a conservative Tennessee district, Gore opposed putting serial numbers on guns so they could be traced, and voted to cut the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms budget by $4.2 million so that it could not carry out regulations that had unleashed a torrent of 300,000 letters from gun owners.

What is likely to be more troublesome now are the votes he took in 1985 when the Senate--taking its first major stand on gun control in almost two decades--significantly weakened the gun law it had put into place after the assassinations of Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy. By then elected statewide, Gore was representing Memphis and Nashville and other urban areas where, he acknowledges, "gun violence was even at that time beginning to increase." But he voted against a 14-day waiting period for handgun purchases and for allowing their sale across state lines. And as recently as 1986, the future Vice President told the Washington Monthly that gun-control laws "haven't been an effective solution to the underlying problem of violent crime." Now Gore says he was in a "process of changing one's understanding that doesn't occur overnight." And, he adds, "there are certainly some votes I would cast differently knowing what I do about the issue now."

In fairness, Gore had plenty of company, even among Democrats, in backing the gun lobby during the 1980s. "Back in those days everybody did," says Sarah Brady, wife of Ronald Reagan's wounded press secretary, who became outraged enough by the 1985 bill to join the cause of gun control. But there were a few exceptions. "In 18 years in the Senate, Bill Bradley never cast a single vote in support of gun owners," notes NRA spokesman Bill Powers.

Bradley was not always there in the clinch. He missed the crucial series of votes in 1985, though the margins were such that his votes would not have made a difference in the outcome. But in 1990, Bradley and Gore were on opposite sides of an amendment that would have prohibited the sale of large-capacity ammunition magazines and banned a dozen types of assault-style weapons. The language ultimately became law under the Clinton-Gore Administration.

By then Gore had switched sides on the issue. He credits Sarah Brady for "helping a lot of us" see how gun control and overbearing government were not the same. And the admiration is mutual. "He's been one of our biggest proponents," she says of Gore.

Both of this year's Democratic presidential candidates have advanced ambitious gun proposals: Gore would require that purchasers of weapons obtain photo licenses; Bradley would go even further, registering the guns themselves. While Gore says he has an "open mind" on gun registration, he insists that the more radical step has "zero chance of being enacted."

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http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/2000/02/07/gun.html


Note that when the above article was written, the conventional wisdom was that Gore NRA past would be a liability.

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
11. Conventional wisdom in Washington and the editorial offices of The New York times was wrong
Tue May 7, 2013, 03:29 PM
May 2013

and Mr. Gore failed to adequately understand the constituency in his own state.

 

Jake Izzy

(130 posts)
12. Gore would have failed earlier as a politician, had he rejected the NRA in the 80's
Tue May 7, 2013, 04:51 PM
May 2013

In the article you cited, we learn that most Democrats voted that way in the 1980's in TN. Could it be that Gore couldn't have even made it to the Presidential elections if he had been a pro-gun-control liberal in 1980's Tennessee?

rrneck

(17,671 posts)
8. After a quick Google search (hint hint)...
Tue May 7, 2013, 03:23 PM
May 2013
http://www.debates.org/index.php?page=october-11-2000-debate-transcript

I think these assault weapons are a problem. So I favor closing the gun show loophole. In fact, I cast the tie-breaking vote to close it, but then the majority in the House of Representatives went the other way. That's still pending. If we could get agreement on that, maybe they could pass that in the final days of this Congress. I think we ought to restore the three-day waiting period under the Brady Law.

GORE: A photo license I.D. like a driver's license for new handguns and, you know, the Los Angeles --


http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/2000/02/07/gun.html

Both of this year's Democratic presidential candidates have advanced ambitious gun proposals: Gore would require that purchasers of weapons obtain photo licenses; Bradley would go even further, registering the guns themselves. While Gore says he has an "open mind" on gun registration, he insists that the more radical step has "zero chance of being enacted."

Gore has long been aware that his past could be a problem. As far back as his 1988 presidential race, an internal campaign memo listed his opposition to gun control as a vulnerability, pitting him against law enforcement and his own party base. But only within recent days has Bradley's operation begun to delve more deeply into the issue as a potential area of attack, and as of late last week campaign strategists were still pondering how to use it. "It's certainly an issue that will surface before the March 7 primary," says a senior adviser. Gore is undoubtedly a convert, but in a year when voters are looking for authenticity in their candidates' motivations, the question could be whether he is a true believer as well. --With reporting by Tamala M. Edwards with Bradley



http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/e2000/blgore.htm

GORE: I think we ought to ban assault weapons and Saturday night specials, and junk guns. -- New Hampshire Primary Debate 1/5/2000

aikoaiko

(34,161 posts)
5. Three little letters. A W B
Tue May 7, 2013, 03:18 PM
May 2013

The pathetic and nonsensical AWB from 1994 inflamed gun ownes and pushed the NRA over the top with their congressional and presidential influence.

It wasnt just that, but the NRA had taken some hits inthe 1980s with Democratic legislation that was signed into law by Reagan (hughes amendment) and advanced by Bush and Clinton (expansive of sporting clause restrictions on imports), but the last straw that solidified support for the NRA was the 1994 AWB.


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. the NRA is a wing of the Republican party, moreso than Fox News.
Tue May 7, 2013, 03:21 PM
May 2013

Its primary purpose is not to protect gun owners, it's to advance a radical rightwing ideology.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
7. It kills me when a gunner proudly proclaims themselves to be a single issue voter...
Tue May 7, 2013, 03:23 PM
May 2013

and THEN claims to have voted Democratic all their lives.

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