Cleveland neighbour: 'A naked lady in the backyard' (article with video)

[Tx4obama]

Cleveland neighbour: 'A naked lady in the backyard'

Here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22440877

Neighbor says in video that her granddaughter had seen a naked lady crawling in the backyard.
She told police but nothing happened.
And she said she say a child in the attic window and the child with Ariel Castro at the park.


Sounds like a lawsuit will be coming in the future, just like in the California Jaycee Lee Dugard case.


Live blog with lots of updates here: http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/05/amanda_berry_gina_dejesus_mich.html#incart_maj-story-1#incart_maj-story-1

[Phentex]

1. Dugard was amazing...

I hope these three recover (as much as one can!) as well as she did.

[pinboy3niner]

7. These four

Don't forget the child.

[Phentex]

8. True!

I cannot imagine what they are going through now.

[Blue_Tires]

2. Is there any transcript or archive of the call?

[Tx4obama]

3. She said she talked to the police in July, so who knows.

Article didn't say if she called or talked to someone in person.

Probably will be months before we know everything.

[Xithras]

6. She talked to a patrol officer and didn't follow up.

If you watch the video, she says that she spoke with a patrol officer who suggested that she call a detective to determine whether anything suspicious was going on. She never called a detective to follow up, so it was never pursued (not that it mattered IMHO, I seriously doubt that her innuendo would have been enough to launch any sort of actual investivation).

[Xithras]

4. Probably not.

In the Dugard case, the kidnapper was on probation and the property was supposed to be searched on a regular basis. The state completely failed to do its job and monitor the kidnapper, which lead to her being imprisoned for so long. The states failure to do its duty lead to direct harm against her.

In this case, none of the kidnappers were being monitored on probation (that we know of). The police can't search your home simply because a neighbor said they saw a naked person in your backyard, or a child they didn't recognize in the window. One of those is only a minor infraction, and the other isn't a crime at all. Neither would merit any attention from the police in most major cities.

Unless these women can prove that the police had reason to search the house and failed to do so, the only lawsuits will be against the kidnappers themselves.

[LisaL]

5. I agree. Dugard's case is different because the perp was supposed to have been monitored.

[Tx4obama]

9. I don't know. When there are FOUR missing girls from the same area...

and someone reports an instance of a naked woman crawling in the backyard of a man that lives alone - and the cops don't check it out,
then something is wrong.

[Xithras]

10. It's a large city.

Lots of nudists in the world, and there will be hundreds (maybe thousands) of them in a city the size of Cleveland. A call over a bit of nudity spotted in a neighbors yard isn't going to bring the police unless it's a recurring thing or accompanied by an accusation of some other crime (public sex in view of children, an assault, etc.) In many places, being nude in your own yard isn't even a crime. In the places where it is a crime, it's generally a very minor one. Without more information, it's doubtful that the police would have done anything with it at all.

I just don't see the state carrying any responsibility for this.

[greatlaurel]

11. Law Enforcement in Ohio is pathetic.

Cleveland, and Ohio in general, has a history of ignoring men who attack women. Here is a link to the wiki page about the Cleveland Strangler who murdered 11 women: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Sowell. There were many complaints about the smell from the house where he lived and kept the bodies of the murder victims in his house. There have been a string of disappearances near the Ohio State University campus in Columbus over the years. The crimes on women can be listed by the thousands. Rape, domestic violence, abuse of female victims such as Steubenville, murders of women, especially low income women, are standard and are never properly investigated in this state. It really is a nightmare for victims. It is outrageous.

So glad these brave and resourceful young women are free at last. Kudos to the guy (he did more than the entire Cleveland police force) who helped the young lady who was trying to get out that front door.

[Tx4obama]

12. There are 45 female open missing persons cases in Cleveland

Map, names/ages/date of disappearance - here: Here: http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2013/05/nearly_100_missing_person_case.html