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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:52 PM Feb 2012

Miami DUer In The News Again... 'Journalist Recovers Video Of His Arrest After Police Deleted It.'

Journalist recovers video of his arrest after police deleted it
By Timothy B. Lee | ars technica
Published a day ago


The officer who arrested Carlos Miller

<snip>

A Miami journalist has recovered video of police officers arresting him after it was deleted from his camera. The man was covering a police effort to evict Occupy Miami protestors. He plans to file a complaint with the police department and with the United States Department of Justice.

On January 31, Miami police evicted Occupy Miami protesters from their downtown campsite. On hand to cover the action was photojournalist Carlos Miller. Along with protestors and other journalists, he was pushed down the street by a line of police in riot gear. He tried to circle around the block to return to his car, but he found his path blocked by a second line of police officers.

The police weren't arresting the other journalists around him, so Miller said he assumed he would be allowed to cross this second line of officers to return to his car. But when he approached one of the officers, he was stopped and placed under arrest. Upon his release the following morning, he found that several videos he had taken, including the one documenting his arrest, had disappeared.

Miller has since recovered some of the missing video, and it appears to back up his story. Though some crucial sequences are missing, the video shows Miller approaching a female police officer, who blocks his path and then calls other officers over to help arrest him.


"You were given a dispersal order, sir, and you were told you were gonna be placed under arrest," she told Miller in the video. "We don't want to have to hurt you," she said.

"I'm not doing anything," Miller responded. "I'm not resisting."

<snip>

More: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/journalist-recovers-video-of-his-arrest-after-police-deleted-it.ars




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Miami DUer In The News Again... 'Journalist Recovers Video Of His Arrest After Police Deleted It.' (Original Post) WillyT Feb 2012 OP
Does he have a DU name? Good for him though, for not giving up and why would sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #1
RagingInMiami. EFerrari Feb 2012 #2
Oh, yes, thank you I remember him now, he is a great DUer, imho. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #7
It is a crime to delete the video off his camera. But the fucking police know.... Logical Feb 2012 #3
K&R suffragette Feb 2012 #4
"We don't want to have to hurt you". Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2012 #5
My thoughts exactly - there should not even be thoughts of hurting civilians. Smilo Feb 2012 #6
Filming cops at work in public venues can go a long way toward fixing their often illegal behavior Bozita Feb 2012 #8
"Deleted" Nope. boppers Feb 2012 #9
What are you saying? Matariki Feb 2012 #11
I think he feels that media provocation is relevant, and important. boppers Feb 2012 #14
First, this isn't about you. EFerrari Feb 2012 #16
I'm guessing you don't know much about Carlos Miller tkmorris Feb 2012 #18
"Carlos Miller" yeids google results. boppers Feb 2012 #35
Carlos hasn't been convicted of anything. EFerrari Feb 2012 #36
His blog disagrees about being convicted. boppers Feb 2012 #38
Yes, he won that case. EFerrari Feb 2012 #39
After reading this horseshit. I can say, it only seems to make sense.... in your head. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Feb 2012 #21
Wow, Boppers, take a chill pill. Blue_In_AK Feb 2012 #23
Your post is a trainwreck. nt Javaman Feb 2012 #25
Joining in this community "Beat Down" , bvar22 Feb 2012 #29
Fixed the grammar error. boppers Feb 2012 #32
Was that all the 'dirt' you could find? ronnie624 Feb 2012 #34
Poor grammar was the least of your errors. bvar22 Feb 2012 #37
I feel sorry for you Angry Dragon Feb 2012 #30
What a piece of shit ill informed post RetroLounge Feb 2012 #31
I want to affect our political future. boppers Feb 2012 #33
Sure you do RetroLounge Feb 2012 #40
k&r n/t RainDog Feb 2012 #10
Well done jsmirman Feb 2012 #12
"He plans to file a complaint..." unkachuck Feb 2012 #13
Whats up with the Campaign Ribbons below her badge? bahrbearian Feb 2012 #15
I remember doing shore patrol tinymontgomery Feb 2012 #17
Yes, no ties either, unless they were the clip on ones. Even at that, best with the MADem Feb 2012 #20
Good to see Carlos still going. immoderate Feb 2012 #19
Carlos is one courageous dude. Blue_In_AK Feb 2012 #22
Long live the FAT filesystem! 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #24
+1. nt bemildred Feb 2012 #27
keep fighting the good fight, Carlos! Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #26
K&R woo me with science Feb 2012 #28

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
1. Does he have a DU name? Good for him though, for not giving up and why would
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 08:27 PM
Feb 2012

they steal his film? That seems to be illegal as it was news coverage, and now evidence in a possible lawsuit or hearing.

I am glad he is filing a complaint.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
3. It is a crime to delete the video off his camera. But the fucking police know....
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 08:44 PM
Feb 2012

that they will NEVER get punished for it.

The police are out of control.

 

Boudica the Lyoness

(2,899 posts)
5. "We don't want to have to hurt you".
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:06 PM
Feb 2012

Who made her the judge jury and executioner?

Why would she make such a statement to a man who has done nothing to deserve being hurt in the first place? She's an out of control brute and needs to be fired.

I had to laugh at how childish those policemen looked when they were getting themselves sorted out.

Smilo

(2,031 posts)
6. My thoughts exactly - there should not even be thoughts of hurting civilians.
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:19 PM
Feb 2012
<<< police action at OWS Miami

Bozita

(26,955 posts)
8. Filming cops at work in public venues can go a long way toward fixing their often illegal behavior
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 10:09 PM
Feb 2012

And that filming is totally legal.

Carlos is a tireless 1st Amendment crusader and he has the lumps to prove it. He's a hero in my book.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
14. I think he feels that media provocation is relevant, and important.
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 11:06 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Thu Feb 9, 2012, 03:25 AM - Edit history (1)

I would guess he also feels personally relevant, and important.

"Ooh, I shot maneuvers, and I was asked to stop! This MATTERS!"

No, it really doesn't matter, in the slightest, to me....

I put action like this in the Ayn Rand wing of the left (and yes, that phrase spins one's head for a reason). They think their individualist action means something, because, well, every person is special, and matters.... in their head.

That makes them troops (if dumb ones), not generals.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
16. First, this isn't about you.
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 11:27 PM
Feb 2012

Second, Carlos has trained a bunch of young photographers how to deal with police harassment.

Then, he was there reporting on OccupyMiami, which the corporate media can't be trusted with.

In fact, Carlos is special and not in his head but out in the street backing up independent journalism where it matters.



tkmorris

(11,138 posts)
18. I'm guessing you don't know much about Carlos Miller
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 11:46 PM
Feb 2012

And that's OK, you don't have to. On the other hand if you are going to go offering up opinions, especially snarky ones, the classy thing to do would be to at least ATTEMPT to be informed on your subject.

Carlos has made a difference, in a particular way and on a particular issue that he cares very much about. It might not seem like much to you, but I am fairly certain he's OK with that too. He isn't trying to impress you, or anyone else as far as I can tell. What he does matters to HIM (and many of us too) and that is what matters.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
35. "Carlos Miller" yeids google results.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 03:55 AM
Feb 2012

Among them (paraphrased), "How to get rich off of provoking cops".

Which is what he has already been convicted of.

EFerrari

(163,986 posts)
36. Carlos hasn't been convicted of anything.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 04:18 AM
Feb 2012

And your posts to this thread are pathetic and disgusting.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
23. Wow, Boppers, take a chill pill.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:00 AM
Feb 2012

Each and every one of us DOES matter. And I would venture to guess that you know nothing about Carlos Miller or the cause that he so heroically champions. As a photographer myself, I deeply appreciate his passion. Besides being a terrific journalist, he's an exceptional photographer.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
29. Joining in this community "Beat Down" ,
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 05:36 PM
Feb 2012

...because you deserve it for this outstandingly ill informed post, and completely unfounded opinion.
You know how the crowd Boos at a football game when some fool takes off his clothes,
and runs naked around the field?
Can you hear the Boos?

From your post #14 this thread:


"They makes them (sic) troops (if dumb ones), not generals."


RagingInMiami's tireless dedication to this cause,
personal sacrifice over the years,
courage in the line of duty,
willingness to Put it ALL On the Line,
and Leadership
does INDEED make him a "General" in this most important of wars for our democracy,
though if you asked him, he would reply he is only doing his duty as a citizen and a photographer.
(I am familiar enough with his work over the years to make this claim).

OTOH, the ignorance on display in your post DOES put YOU in one of the categories you mention,
and that category is NOT the one RagingInMiami stands in.

RagingInMiami is one of the best DU has ever had among our ranks.
He Walks the Walk.


You still have time to post a retraction and a Mea Culpa,
and walk away with some of your integrity intact.





You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
34. Was that all the 'dirt' you could find?
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 03:54 AM
Feb 2012
So this is an ongoing battle for me. I not only write about these issues on an almost daily basis on my blog, I am out fighting the battle on the streets. It has cost me thousands in legal fees, way too many hours behind bars and several lost job opportunities because I am considered controversial.

[center]*****[/center]
For me, winning the contest is about further establishing my blog as a legitimate source of information about police abuses. It's about making more people aware of these incidents that occur on a daily basis.

It's about sending a message to police and judges that people are paying attention

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
37. Poor grammar was the least of your errors.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 10:47 AM
Feb 2012

You still have time to post a retraction and a Mea Culpa,

or you can continue digging the shame hole deeper.





RetroLounge

(37,250 posts)
31. What a piece of shit ill informed post
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:51 PM
Feb 2012

We are still waiting for your retraction.

Else you've lost any future credibility here.

RL

boppers

(16,588 posts)
33. I want to affect our political future.
Thu Feb 9, 2012, 03:38 AM
Feb 2012

Making fans on a message-board? Not so much.
Intentionally provoking cops to arrest me? Even less so.

 

unkachuck

(6,295 posts)
13. "He plans to file a complaint..."
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 10:45 PM
Feb 2012

....good....the courts/system should be loaded with tens of thousands of people filing suits and complaints as we have our civil liberties and Constitution systematically violated....

....there should be teams of Progressive lawyers handling this pro bono....

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
15. Whats up with the Campaign Ribbons below her badge?
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 11:23 PM
Feb 2012

Is she going to get another one for this?

tinymontgomery

(2,859 posts)
17. I remember doing shore patrol
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 11:42 PM
Feb 2012

in the 80's, we always took off our chest candy and anything else someone could grab. It isn't smart
to wear that stuff. No one is impressed with the ribbons etc when the shit hits the fan, and most don't know
what it means and don't care. Also they shouldn't care, ribbons are for past performance not present.
The only medals I care about are personnel awards such as the MOH, Sliver Star, Bronze Star etc. IMHOP.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. Yes, no ties either, unless they were the clip on ones. Even at that, best with the
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:15 AM
Feb 2012

"working uni" look. The armband and the belt were enough for people to figure out what you were about....

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
22. Carlos is one courageous dude.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:53 AM
Feb 2012

I'm so glad I had the privilege of making his acquaintance in the real world. Great guy!

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