So there's a crazy Right wing CT that Dems want to buy up all bullets.

[Bonobo]

I just heard about it on Rachel's show.

Imagine a crazy theory like that -that Obama wants to buy up all the bullets so that gun proponents won't have ammo! LOL!

There are some real nuts out there! Who would come up with such a batshit crazy theory!?

Has anyone here on DU every heard of such an idiotic idea?

[justiceischeap]

1. The CT doesn't even make sense

because it's not like ammo manufacturer's have a limited supply to make. No one could buy up all the bullets, 'cause they'd just make more.

[Bonobo]

2. Truly only an idiot could come up with such an idea.

It's the most laughably idiotic idea I think I ever heard.

[DonViejo]

52. Coburn Pulls Gun Amendment That Flirted With Obama Conspiracy Theory

SAHIL KAPUR MAY 8, 2013, 1:00 PM

Shortly before a floor vote Wednesday afternoon, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) withdrew his amendment requiring documentation of ammunition and firearm purchases by federal agencies, his office and Democratic leadership confirmed to TPM.

The measure appeared to flirt with a conspiracy theory popularized on fringe blogs that the Obama administration was buying ammunition so that ordinary Americans would have less access to it on the open market. The problem: even the National Rifle Association said the theory was based on fiction.

Coburn’s office told TPM he didn’t buy into the theory, and simply wanted the measure in order to enhance government transparency and combat waste.

Coburn’s other gun amendment to the water resources bill, which would allow people to carry guns in water areas like lakes and camp sites, is still scheduled for a vote at a 60-vote threshold in the afternoon.

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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/05/coburn-pulls-gun-amendment.php?ref=fpb

[graham4anything]

3. I only listen to Al Shaprton. Rachel lost me forever after the first debate. But...

it's too bad President Obama doesn't do this.
It's a great idea and The Great Equalizer, Mike Bloomberg and the 800plus Mayors against Guns should do this.
Being that President Obama's team is Gabbie Giffords/Mike Bloomberg/Joe Biden and Mike has money to spare, it would be a great idea.

But I won't ever listen to Rachel or the guy they demoted, can't think of his name after their fox-like attitude after the first debate.

I only listen to Al Sharpton, he never lied to me.

A better idea though is to reinterpret the 2nd.
I myself don't find it "NUTS" to want to eliminate bullets from private individuals in the streets of this country. If bullets were eradicated, then one can keep their gun as a hobby collector does. After all, baseball cards don't come loaded with ammo.

after all, the sheriffs in the wild west actually did that. They banned all guns from the streets

If they can and it was legal, then why can't they do that now?

What is nuts is the extremists going to march with fully loaded bigggg guns from VA to DC
They are looking to provoke.
Those people should be spit upon.

[Bonobo]

5. "If bullets were eradicated"

So hold on, let me catch my breath *laughing too hard*...

You actually think that you could BUY the bullets out of existence?

Wouldn't they...*god, someone help me*...wouldn't they just manufacture more bullets?

Oh god, my stomach hurts...

[graham4anything]

7. Not after a new DEMOCRATIC SCOTUS reinterprets the 2nd and makes it a big no-no

only law enforcement should have bullets on the street, and only when they are on duty.
When their shift ends, they have to be locked up at the precinct.

Clever is clever.

People don't like the 48 ounce soda take away, YET, just yesterday Coke now has said worldwide it would better advertise as to what is in their REGULAR soda's admitting they have not been straigght forward
48 ounces=problems later on

Just this week, Gov. Christie has admitted he got surgery to attempt to lose weight.
If he don't cut back, he knows what the democratic doctor said will come true.
That berating by that doctor was like a slap in the face and finally woke him up.

Same with cigarettes

Dreamers dream and someday dreams come true

Unless one is overthrowing a government, what does anyone need a bullet for?
Hobby? Time for a new one.

reinterpret the 2nd just like the last four rulings were-reinterpetation

AND make sure the Corynin poison pen don't come back, or if it does, base it on NYC law.

Clever is knowing the USA is the worst gun culture nation. Time for something different.

One can also buy out gun shops, and buy out arenas and convention centers that have gun shows. The owners do NOT have to give a permit for them.

Money talks and it's time for the NRA blackmail to end.
No individual needs a gun unless they are official law enforcement of all types

Zimmerman proved what happens when you give a vigilante a gun.

[Bonobo]

11. Wow, that text really flows like liquid fire! But...

What I am talking about is the stupid idea that a mass buying of bullets would do anything but spur a mass manufacturing of bullets to feed the increased demand.

Sorry I couldn't hack my way through your post, alas my ocular machete needs sharpening.

But the point is that crazy people come up with the craziest CT's, don't you think!?

[RevStPatrick]

17. It ain't just the batshit right-wing CT whackos...

...that are into the KA-RAZZZY!!!
If ya know what I mean...

My own little CT speculation would be that the bullet manufacturers "leaked" this particular bit of crazy in order to sell yet more bullets? Sounds totally like something crazy Wayne would do. "Obama's coming for your guns!" always sells more guns, so "Obama's gonna buy up all the bullets!" could easily sell more bullets.

[TheMightyFavog]

45. And be able to justify charging more per box, to boot. n/t

[Autumn]

55. Buying all the bullets would sure increase the bullet manufactures profits.

Maybe that's the idiotic thought behind it. Yes people do come up with the craziest CT's.

[JHB]

12. So you're against factionalism and purity that undercuts unity...

...but Al Sharpton is your gold standard, and Rachel Maddow and Ed Shultz are beyond the pale because they weren't pure enough in your eyes.

Not to mention your decidedly "purist" views on gun control. Having several gun-owners in the family, your view is precisely the kind they point to as to why they go extreme in the other direction. The fear that reasonable measures are just a "step #1" of a more sweeping prohibition pushed by absolutists.

[graham4anything]

28. I am not an echo chamber, I don't zucky(facebook). I use charmin. I am an open book.

If they banned tennis balls, I would go bowling.
If they banned bowling balls, I would play ping pong
If they banned Fox and MSNBC and all other political media and that included Al Shapton, Life in America would be alot better off with just say Dan Rather and the 630 news.

If Zimmerman had been packing a ping pong ball, Mr. Martin would be alive and well and living in Sanford.

A person who is honest would change hobbies.
a criminal would stockpile after a law is changed for criminal purpose

Isn't the purpose to stop mass shootings and solo killings done by people with guns who are not on duty law enforcement?

But, I don't whine if it don't happen.

Anything President Obama wants is fine by me. If nobody else says so, then nobody else says it.

And make sure that Cornyn amendment never passes unless the standard is NYC, yes
wellness rules.

[pipi_k]

41. The problem wasn't

that George Zimmerman had a gun.

The problem was that he persisted in his stalking of Trayvon Martin even after he was told to stand down by 911.

Zimmerman could have been armed with a tank, a cannon, three AK-47s, and a nuclear bomb.

If he hadn't decided to be a Hero that night, nothing would have happened.

Or...he could have been armed with a kitchen knife. He could have struggled with Trayvon Martin exactly as he did, and plunged the knife into his victim's chest or throat.

Martin would have been just as dead.

What's the difference between a person killed by a gun and a person killed by some other means?

[graham4anything]

50. Zimmy shot someone coward style.Mr. Martin was killed by a coward with a big weapon

A coward would have to have a bit of daring to actually get close to stab someone
Guns make it easy for cowards and guns can kill many in seconds
Why guns are the method of choice for most mass killers, and
guns are 100% the cause of everyone who dies or is hurt from a gun

and as judged from the Kitty Genovese case, she was stabbed multiple times over 30 minutes before she died. Stab wounds are not generally as fatal as gun wounds

and guns have those wacky tricky bullets that zing and zoom and careem all over

Not only did a coward shoot John Lennon in the back, the bullets caused so much damage
he was dead without a chance for the doctors to do anything.
Little weasel coward loser who only did it to become famous.didn't even have the guts to do it in a fair arena. Him and Zimmy and all the others.

Guns owners have dealt away their cards to reasons. They don't advertise it, so they don't need it for home protection.
People who want home protection have alarms, and those people have signs warning the alarm is there.
The protection is to get the perp or hater to go to a different home and leave them alone
But gun people don't do that. Makes no sense.
Is the object to get someone into their range and then use it?
Why wouldn't someone want others to know and not bother them?
Why have it then?

[JHB]

44. So you were pro-Guliani on the ferret issue?

[Ichingcarpenter]

4. Came from an AP story on billions of bullets

WASHINGTON — The Homeland Security Department wants to buy more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition in the next four or five years. It says it needs them — about the equivalent of five cartridges for every person in the United States — for law enforcement agents in training and on duty.


Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_22594279/homeland-security-aims-buy-1-6-billion-rounds#ixzz2Sn0jNoXs
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[Bonobo]

6. Interesting. But in EVERY other case of manufactured products...

Big purchases will only increase demand to increase manufacturing.

I guess the dummies didn't think of that.

[graham4anything]

8. if reinterpreted, it-no HONEST person will break the law.

If a person is NOT honest, they should not be manufacturing bullets and guns

any first grader knows right from wrong.

[graham4anything]

9. actually, this is not true. Look how long it takes to build other WMDs.

Iran is still a few years away it seems.

[Bonobo]

10. LOL. Bullets = Nuclear weapons. Bravo!

*tosses coins into guitar case*

[graham4anything]

21. slight sleight of hand there. WMD does NOT say WNW big oops isn't it?

guns=weapons
guns/bullets cause=mass destruction

where does it say nukes?



nra=terror org. as they act like terrorists the rightwing extremist types and look at the
KKK without the sheets like march on DC promised by the tea party and supported by the NRA

ironic thing is-some people I have read are defending one of the top 10 terrorists on the FBI list, and the most recent entry. A TERRORIST. who had GUN.
Homegrown of course.

[JHB]

13. Google the term "reloading kit"

Contemplate how many of the ones sold over the last 60 years or so are still operable.

[graham4anything]

22. are those people honest or criminals?

If they are honest, they won't commit a crime
if they are not honest and are criminals, why do they have guns?

no honest person would ever commit a crime using their gun which would prove those against guns right all along.

anyone stepping on the bridge to DC with a gun will be a criminal

some people promote gonzo photography
I would suggest all those w/o guns during that march gonzo photograph all those with guns from the border of VA and anyone stepping on that bridge is breaking the law if they have a gun on them.

Right?

[JHB]

46. Did you agree with Guliani that unlawful ferret owners?

They were illegal, but people had them anyway. The city council voted to leagalize them, but Rudolf vetoed it, and in typical style made it personal and called ferret owners "deranged" "weasel lovers".

But they were breaking the law, so they were criminals, right?

[graham4anything]

51. Mr. Trayvon Martin might just have cured cancer in the next few years. We shall never know.

[Bluenorthwest]

53. And all the minority youth who are randomly subjected to 'stop and frisk' who are then

arrested for marijuana offenses under Bloomberg's racist policies are denied student aid for having a 'drug record'. This prevents thousands from pursuing further education, thousands who might have done all manner of things had they not been stopped by Mike's goons for being brown and walking down a street. Those kids did nothing at all that is harmful to others, nothing at all that has not been done by our last three Presidents, including Obama who was a huge pot head and coke sniffer in his youth.
http://www.odos.uiuc.edu/sls/brochureAds/downloads/DrugsFinancialAid.pdf

[jakeXT]

14. DHS was a Bush era creation. /nt

[pintobean]

15. Why, yes, I have seen this on DU

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022794158

[LWolf]

18. That one doesn't surprise me.

Unfortunately.

Thanks for the trip down memory lane. Is there a modern cartoon as good as bugs? Funny AND smart?

[premium]

23. That thread was pure comedy gold.

I never laughed so hard when I read that dumbass idea.

[HappyMe]

24. That's it!

I remembered that this idea had been brought up here!

[newmember]

27. lol

[Cal Carpenter]

36. That was the first thing I thought of

When I saw this OP.

Makes ya go hmmmmmmm

[LWolf]

16. I've heard this from 2 different gun owners locally.

One I bought some hay from. The other I work with.

The one I work with has been getting progressively more obsessive and extreme since '08. He's a big fan of Glen Beck. Before Beck and the election of Obama, he seemed a more intelligent, moderate conservative. Since then, he can't talk about anything except Obama coming to get the guns, and every other bat-shit crazy right-wing radio talking point.

[FSogol]

19. Sssshhh: ixnay onway operationway uybay allway ulletsbay!

[baldguy]

20. They've obviously never dealt with GSA procurement contracts for consumer products.

The federal govt buys everything from arrows to xylophones, including kitchen sinks - and bullets. Anything that you would find in any average home or office, the GSA has a has a Request For Bid for it.

[WinkyDink]

25. A "crazy Right wing" Connecticut?

Since when is "CT" a common abbreviation for "Conspiracy Theory"?

[HappyMe]

30. What?

[hack89]

43. It was common when I joined eight years ago. nt

[Eleanors38]

56. When I joined 7 years ago I thought "DU" was Ducks Unlimited."

[darkangel218]

26. Wasnt someone here on DU who sugested the same thing?

From what I remember he said if the anti gun people buy all the bullets, there won't be anymore bullets and problem solved lol.

[Bonobo]

29. You mean BEFORE Rachel announced it was a RIGHT-WINGNUT Conspiracy Theory??

Link please!

That would be weird!

If that were true, you would have to wonder if that person was actually a right-winger who got that CT from teabaggerish sites but maybe was trying to disseminate it using DU...

Well, I can't imagine who it was but I think that person, whoever it may have been, should of course get the benefit of the doubt.

[darkangel218]

32. The link.was posted above, it was graham.

He didn't say anyting about POTUS, just that is a good idea if all bullets would be bought by the anti gun people. I just now read the whole thread, I see that OP is saying the same now

[Bonobo]

57. Wow, I see that now. Shocking. nt

[HappyMe]

33. Right here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022794158

[newmember]

34. There's something very fishy going on here

It's all starting to makes sense with one certain poster who will remain nameless

[tridim]

31. Gun nuts must believe everyone thinks about guns and gun accessories 24/7.

I'd go bonkers if I was forced to live in the gun nut bubble.

[HappyMe]

35. To be fair,

there are plenty of anti-gun people that could be considered 'nuts' too.

[TheKentuckian]

37. Yup, obsession is obsession and some controllers and prohibitionists are as fixated

or even more so than their opposite numbers.

Hell, the only times I've heard tell of what the OP describes is right here on DU from anti-gun folks and I live in Kentucky.

[Puzzledtraveller]

40. Glad it's not just me that notices this

also in Kentucky.

[tridim]

48. Not even close.

People who understand that weapons should be regulated are being practical, not obsessive.

[jlayson]

38. A FB friend took a trans-Atlantic cruise and messaged this

Wouldn't you know? The ship sailed from Galveston which means that about 1500 of the passengers were from TX and Republicans. They referred to George W as George Jr. They think that Obama is singlehandedly going around and getting all the ammunition, not even leaving them enough 22s to shoot the armadillos that are tearing up their yards.

[Ian David]

39. It would be easier to buy all the guns. n/t

[ileus]

42. It was already proposed here on DU.

[Bluenorthwest]

47. Yes on DU there is a person who advocates exactly that, for reasons I can only guess at

but Rachel's story does not surprise me in the least.

[ellie]

49. My mom has been listening to right wing radio

and she told me the same thing. This woman is a die hard liberal and she believed it! I had to debunk it. It's as if the right wing wants people to be afraid.

[SDjack]

54. Perhaps the shortage occurred this way:

1. The RW gun nuts worked themselves into a frenzy and propagated the myth that Pres. Obama will seize guns.
2. Dimwits who did not have enough guns rushed to buy guns and ammo.
3. A nutter noticed that stocks of ammo in the shops were dropping, and he blamed the usual cause: Pres. Obama, who is forcing the government agencies to buy all the ammo they can get to deprive the private sector.
4. No nutter wants to run out of ammo when the revolution occurs, so some buy too much.
5. Ammo stocks dip even lower, so ammo manufacturers take advantage by raising prices. That feeds the panic buying by dimwits.
6. Ammo stocks dip even lower, so ammo manufacturers increase production and prices.
7. In the future, all the dimwits and nuts will have several lifetime hoards of ammo. They stop buying, and the ammo retail market enters into oversupply and crashes.
8. They will blame the usual cause: Pres. Obama.