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The fact that anyone believes humans and dinos lived at the same time is too depressing to ponder. Now I know why I feel so hopeless at times. Now I know why so many people are unredeemable.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)You mean "The Flintstones" wasn't a documentary series?
BeeBee
(1,074 posts)LondonReign2
(5,213 posts)Land of the Lost, however....REAL
Javaman
(62,439 posts)Americans and republicans. LOL
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)I mean, besides all those thousands and thousands of "scientists", with all their "evidence", who's to say he's wrong?
Sid
mmonk
(52,589 posts)The Magistrate
(95,237 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Why did T have big old canines and why is there evil in the world? Sure those two sentences go together like peas in a pod! And of course the answer is...DON'T ASK JUST FEAR THE CLOUDS! And you will be smurt.
Lithos
(26,397 posts)that I understand were found with another dinosaur inside are just mistakes...
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Ligyron
(7,592 posts)and personally find it difficult to believe it's that high a percentage. I'm thinking 5% -- or maybe 10% tops. Nobody I'm even vaguely familiar with has ever espoused such a ridiculous belief. Course, I'm probably hanging around the wrong crowd, right?
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)and it has nothing to do with creationism, it has to do with the idea that birds are the descendants of maniraptors and coelurosaurs.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)lived at the same time and still do. And there are probably a lot of Americans who do not think birds are evolved dinosaurs either.
Bible thumpers believe in the "poof method" of creation and the God created everything as is it is today by " just saying so". And "poof" it was there in it complete form.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Or not.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Hosnon
(7,800 posts)JackN415
(924 posts)hfojvt
(37,573 posts)what about the coelacanth? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth
"Coelacanths were thought to have gone extinct in the Late Cretaceous, but were rediscovered in 1938 off the coast of South Africa.[5] Traditionally, the coelacanth was considered a living fossil due to its apparent lack of significant evolution over the past millions of years;[4] and the coelacanth was thought to have evolved into roughly its current form approximately 400 million years ago."
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I read a paper about how that particular approach to taxonomy could cause cows to be fish because of rules controlling something called paraphyly. So I suppose the same thing follows for coelocanths and dinosaurs
But, generally, when people say dinosaurs they mean descendants of the archeosaura that are in a subgroup of ornithodira known as the dinosauromorpha
BillStein
(758 posts)I mean, on the sixth day, even if he wasn't created yet? Wait a minute...
flamingdem
(39,303 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Humm.. I'd say fear is the end of any chance at wisdom.
if THAT is one of the proverbs in the bible, better not read the rest of them...
burnodo
(2,017 posts)a lot of Bible believers who think dinosaurs existed but were created only a day or two before man
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)bones and fossils started showing up, they needed some way to explain it, I guess.
The other side of that is the people (like one of my sisters) who believe dinosaur fossils/bones were "put there by God to test our faith". Yep, that God...he's just a big ol' prankster!
Another one, a family friend, thought that the bones didn't prove anything because there weren't enough of them, and anyway, how do we know they weren't just very large dogs or horses whose bones were put together by scientists trying to "prove" dinosaurs existed at some point... Let's not even get into the fact that many of those skeletons were found intact...
burnodo
(2,017 posts)it roots them, grounds them, in reality...er, wait, no...grounds them in... I don't know.
Loup Garou
(99 posts)PETERSBURG, Kentucky (AFP) For a group of paleontologists, a tour of the Creation Museum seemed like a great tongue-in-cheek way to cap off a serious conference.
But while there were a few laughs and some clowning for the camera, most left more offended than amused by the frightening way in which evolution -- and their life's work -- was attacked.
"It's sort of a monument to scientific illiteracy, isn't it?" said Jerry Lipps, professor of geology, paleontology and evolution at University of California, Berkeley.
"Like Sunday school with statues... this is a special brand of religion here. I don't think even most mainstream Christians would believe in this interpretation of Earth's history."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jiVuN2BMp6tmuGBGOedALIY4_FaA
telclaven
(235 posts)Ever see turkeys in the wild?
Feathered, miniature tyranosaurus rexes, all of them.
JackN415
(924 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)telclaven
(235 posts)And cranberry sauce!
mmm, dinosaur dinner.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)It's what people are taught to believe from birth, by everyone they know, love, and trust. It's taught to people as fact before they can think critically. These aren't neutral observers over viewing the facts and deciding on the dinosaurs and people coexisting.
Everyone was told some kind of bullshit "fact" by somebody they knew as a kid, and probably believed it without question for a long period of time. Sometimes those "facts" are reinforced by their families and peer groups, leading to stupid shit like this.
Okay, maybe there are some people who don't believe the Earth is only a few thousand years old, and Noah's flood didn't happen as described in the bible, and that ancient evolutionary ancestors of humans roamed around with dinosaurs, but I doubt it.
Maine-ah
(9,902 posts)pipi_k
(21,020 posts)as it is, I love that movie!
Especially the scene where they "discover" music.
Maine-ah
(9,902 posts)chervilant
(8,267 posts)who lives in rural Arkansas. Joe is an activist, daily creating and distributing DVDs to "educate his brethren about what's coming." His 'knowledge' is a vast array of fact and fiction couched in religious terminology. He is certain that we're facing the "end times." He is certain that evil walks among us. He is certain that the uber wealthy plan to round us all up and put us in 'slave-labor camps.' He knows this because "the government is behind 9/11." Joe is the local source for a multitude of religious DVDs that are professionally produced, and provided for a pittance.
Joe wouldn't question the 'dinosaurs with humans' meme, because he -- like so many others -- is more concerned with what's happening now and in the near future. Moreover, Joe is NOT stupid, and he doesn't sound or act like a rube.
Joe -- and the vast number of humans like him -- is a much bigger concern for me. His world view is impenetrable and resolute. Challenge his precepts, and you will find yourself on the receiving end of a polite and gently uttered rant, adjuring you to attend his church and learn the knowledge vital to help you through the end times. He won't change his mind, and he won't stop. And, calling him stupid won't change anything.
HowHasItComeToThis
(3,566 posts)I SAW IT ON TELEVISION
chervilant
(8,267 posts)He made reference to that iconic movie himself -- after observing that our food supplies are already toxic and addictive.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)it's been that way since forever.
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Maybe I should move to Vancouver?
Canadians don't believe in that nonsense do they?
marmar
(76,982 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)And I live in a red state...where did the poll these people?
Maybe they polled kids after watching the Flintstones?
trixie
(867 posts)They buy into it and are passing it on to their 19 and counting kids and their grandkids.........And the Bates do too and it is being televised as family friendly.
BootinUp
(46,924 posts)fishwax
(29,146 posts)I find it hard to believe that 41% of Americans believe this.
Orrex
(63,084 posts)I know a disturbingly large number of adults who have no idea how the planet is.
I'm not talking about people who've bought into the 6000 year nonsense, but rather people who simply have no idea about it at all.
"I don't know. A million years?" That kind of thing.
I'm willing to bet that most of them have no concept of how long a million years is, either.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)propped up now, too, and when you combine teh stoopit with that, it's only a matter of time before we are too weak to defend ourselves.
Somebody is watching..........and waiting. Probably the Chinese.
I hope I don't live to see the consequences.
Vogon_Glory
(9,084 posts)I once poo-poohed the creationists' tale about dinosaurs living at the same time as humans by saying that I'd reconsider my stance against creationism if someone dug up the well-chewed remains of a too-slow Biblical patriarch and his band of sheep along with the remains of a velociraptor or an Allosaurus. Some Praying Janie (My nickname for a Holy Joe's female counterpart, BTW) indignantly wrote me back insisting that not only was I a liar, but that dinosaur bones had been dug up with the remains of chlorophyl in their Mesozoic dentition.
Pisces
(5,592 posts)future holds but I am terrified that my children have to live in a country where 41% are raising complete morons.
gopiscrap
(23,673 posts)that pretty much compares to the percentage of those who identify themselves as republicans.
derby378
(30,252 posts)His "Creation Evidences Museum" down in Glen Rose, TX got this whole thing going.
In the meantime, my wife took me to the state park next door to show me why those weren't human footprints after all. Complete with real dino footprints.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)of human/dino co-existence. I can't speak for most of them now as I left that culture 30+ years ago but when I was kid everyone I knew believed that bullshit.
My mom also died pretty sad that I didn't believe that bullshit.
derby378
(30,252 posts)Martha was convinced those were human footprints, and seemed incredulous when I explained how they couldn't have been: "Well, then, anything can form the shape of a footprint at that rate" or something like that.
Very sweet lady, but also a bit opinionated. She was diagnosed with inoperable brain tumors after complaining of constant headaches, but managed to keep her spirits up to the very end. I visited Martha at her hospital bedside.
You've probably also been told that seashell fossils in the Rocky Mountains are proof that there was a global flood instead of plate tectonics, I assume.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)I don't remember much of any sciency stuff being taught..
I'm sure I heard about seashells in the Rockies somewhere as it seems a familiar concept but I doubt it was because they taught me anything about it.
I DO remember being told about the dinosaur bones being planted by god for funsies. And that christian women wore skirts that fell below the knee. And christian boys wore their hair off their collars and off their ears.
The only solid memory I have of science being taught at my high school was the day we were told no donors stepped up to pay for us to get frogs to dissect so we would just have to look at pictures. 4 years and that's the only science lesson I can remember. The Lord always answers prayer - but sometimes the answer is "no". Actually, judging by the reactions, I think some of the girls in the class DID get their prayers answered.
If I didn't sneak and watch Nova on PBS late at night on my little B/W TV in my room I might not know a damn thing at all.
JackN415
(924 posts)sibelian
(7,804 posts)... well, it's a compelling idea. Can't you just see Noah paddling the ark away from Skeletor with goofy googly-eyed brontosauruses wrapping themselves around the mast?
If you tell people what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear, well.... so it goes.
wandy
(3,539 posts)OregonBlue
(7,744 posts)KamaAina
(78,249 posts)SpartanDem
(4,533 posts)I'm very doubtful that a national poll would be higher than a conservative state like Texas.
Poll: 30% of Texans believe humans and dinosaurs lived together
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2010/02/poll-30-of-texans-believe-humans-and-dinosaurs-lived-together/
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Riftaxe
(2,693 posts)several times a week and I certainly consider myself human....have to love etymology.
Initech
(99,909 posts)sarisataka
(18,199 posts)I found these on the internet and read on the internet that you cannot put anything that is not true on the internet and that one there even says verified and verified means it really really is so so how do you answer that smartie?
badtoworse
(5,957 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Last edited Fri May 10, 2013, 12:56 PM - Edit history (1)
Do they think early humans managed to exterminate all of them?
edit - Forgot about the flood for a minute. I guess Noah didn't have room after boarding the millions of other species on his boat.
LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)sarisataka
(18,199 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)onethatcares
(16,130 posts)Ringo Starr and some dinosaurs and that was proof enough for me.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Though stupid and ignorant travel together very well.
Most people know next to nothing about history, and little about science, either. This does not mean they are completely unintelligent, simply that they have no education in this area at all. The idea that humans and dinosaurs lived together in the undifferentiated concept of the distant past means mostly that these people know nothing about that era. It is a statement on education in America.
datasuspect
(26,591 posts)this shit just becomes more like humor.
undeterred
(34,658 posts)Bucky
(53,795 posts)pipi_k
(21,020 posts)If they had let Fred and Barney get married, pretty soon people would want to marry dinosaurs...
HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Science. Now they want to rewrite Science Textbooks to include the Religion "science". My son-in-law is a Science Teacher and has said he would quit teaching if he had to teach RELIGION.
ck4829
(34,974 posts)Separation
(1,975 posts)"%89 of all statistics on the Internet are BS."
I would love to see where these numbers came from. Maybe if they polled people leaving the Genesis Museum. I have a really hard time believing these numbers.
panzerfaust
(2,818 posts)A 2009 Harris Poll is reported by author Michael Shermer as showing that of our fellow citizens:
82% believe in God
76% believe in miracles
75% believe in Heaven
73% believe in Jesus is God or the Son of God
72% believe in angels
71% believe in survival of the soul after death
70% believe in the resurrection of Jesus Christ
61% believe in hell
61% believe in the virgin birth (of Jesus)
60% believe in the devil
45% believe in Darwins Theory of Evolution
42% believe in ghosts
40% believe in creationism
32% believe in UFOs
26% believe in astrology
23% believe in witches
20% believe in reincarnation